* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] OKAY, COME THE HOUR AT 7:00 PM AND WE'D LIKE TO [Highway Transportation Safety Commission on June 12, 2024. ] CALL THE MEETING THE ORDER. AND IF WE CAN HAVE A ROLL CALL. OKAY. MR. HANCOCK? HERE. S ELAINE HERE. YOUR HONORABLE TIMOTHY. WO HERE. THOMAS HERE. MR. JONES HERE AND SURE. TURNER. OKAY. OKAY. FRANCIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE OVER FROM THERE AND INTRODUCE SOLE GUEST? AND WE LET HIM GO FIRST. AND GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSION MEMBERS AND ALL OTHERS IN ATTENDANCE. UM, I SPOKE WITH, UM, CHAIRMAN HANCOCK PRIOR TO THE MEETING STARTING AND INFORMED HIM THAT, UM, WE HAVE WITH US MR. PAUL BELLA BRADY, AND MR. GREG CRESWELL FROM CAVALIER SOLAR. UM, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING REGARDING THE CAVALIER SOLAR PROJECT AND TRAFFIC AND ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. AND AT THIS TIME, IF IT'S OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD THE FLOOR TO, UM, MR. DIC OR MR. CRESWICK. OKAY. YEAH, EITHER WAY. THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING ME. BOARD. GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. ABSOLUTELY. SO, UH, AS MS. FRANCIS JUST POINTED OUT, WE'D LIKE TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE ITEMS ON HERE, ON THE AGENDA SPECIFICALLY. I'LL BE TAKING A LOOK AT ITEMS D, G, H AND K. SO THAT'S THE, UH, BEACHLAND AND WHITE MORRIS INTERSECTIONS. UH, WE'LL GIVE AN UPDATE ON DELIVERIES, UH, FLAGGERS AS WELL AS THE WHITE MARSH ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. EXCUSE ME. SO WE'LL START WITH DELIVERY UPDATES. UH, POSITIVE NEWS, UH, WE WERE, WE'RE CLOSELY MONITORING THE DELIVERIES AND WE'RE WITHIN ABOUT 30 DAYS OF BEING DELIVERED OUT FOR MAJOR PLANT MATERIAL AT CAVALIER SOLAR. UH, SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS ALL OF OUR PILES RACKINGS MODULES WITHIN MID JULY. SO AGAIN, NEXT 30 DAYS, WE WILL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT DELIVERED OUT. RIGHT NOW WE'RE SITTING AT ABOUT 90%. SO WITHIN THAT NEXT 30 DAYS, WE'LL, WE'LL WRAP THAT UP. UM, THE ONLY DELIVERIES AT THAT POINT THAT WOULD REMAIN WOULD BE WE CONSIDER SMALLER DELIVERIES. SO LANDSCAPING, TREES, BUSHES, ET CETERA, THAT'LL KICK BACK IN THE FALL. UH, WE WILL ALSO HAVE ROCK AGGREGATE TYPE TRUCKS AS WE GO BACK AND, AND INFILL AND RECLAIM SOME OF THE PREVIOUS AREAS. COVER PUNCH LIST MATERIAL, THAT TYPE THING. THAT ALSO LEADS TO KIND OF THE, THE END OF CAVALIER SOLAR, IF YOU WILL, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL OPERATION. UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR COMMERCIAL OPERATION EARLY NOVEMBER, UH, FOR THE, THE ENTIRE PROJECT. UM, WE MENTIONED AGAIN, CIVIL, CIVIL ROCK DELIVERIES WOULD BE THE ONLY, THAT, AND, AND LANDSCAPING MATERIAL WOULD BE THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD REMAIN HERE INTO THE THIRD QUARTER. AND AGAIN, THAT'S MAINLY JUST FOR PUNCH LIST AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE NOTICED, WE'VE HAD SOME TREES DIE ON A, SO WE'LL NEED TO REPLACE THOSE AT OUR NEXT GROWING SEASON. ANY ANY QUESTIONS AS FAR AS DELIVERY BEFORE I, THAT WILL BE, Y'ALL WILL BE THROUGH ALL TOGETHER BACK IN NOVEMBER, THIS COMING NOVEMBER? YES, SIR. BY, BY NOVEMBER WE WILL BE FULLY PUSHING POWER COMMERCIALLY AND WE'LL HAVE A CHEESE COD FULL OPERATION BY NOVEMBER. YES SIR. AND YOU'LL HAVE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IN SIR, COMPLETED BOTH, BOTH COUNTIES, BOTH ENCHILADA? YES, SIR. IOWA WHITE TOO. IOWA OF WHITE TOO. YES SIR. WHICH WAY ARE Y'ALL COMING INTO IOWA WHITE WITH YOUR STUFF? WELL, ACTUALLY WHAT YOU MENTIONED IOWA WHITE, WE'RE ACTUALLY COMPLETELY FINISHED WITH THE, THE, THE PARCELS THAT ARE IN OLIVE WHITE. OKAY. YES SIR. SO IT'S REALLY JUST, JUST, SIR, THAT REMAINS SIR. VOCABULARY. YES SIR. SIR REMAINS SO Y'ALL ARE NOT GONNA DO ALL OF THE STUFF YOU HAD IN OLIVE WHITE. I'M NOT SURE IF I UNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION. I SAID YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING ALL OF THE PLACES THAT YOU HAD IN OLIVE WHITE. CORRECT. MOST OF THE, THOSE ARE ALL COMPLETE. THE ONLY WORK WE WOULD HAVE REMAINING IN AISLE WHITE WOULD BE PUNCH LIST, MAINLY LANDSCAPING. RIGHT. UH, ESPECIALLY AT AISLE WHITE FOR WHATEVER REASON. WE'VE HAD SOME DIFFICULT TIME GETTING SOME OF THE PLANTS TO TAKE THERE. UH, PARTICULARLY ALONG JONES DRIVE, UH, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BEACHLAND THERE. SO YES, BACK IN I THERE WILL BE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THERE. I THINK OUR NEXT GROWING SEASON IS HERE IN THE FALL IS WHAT OUR LANDSCAPER'S TELLING US FOR THIS PLANT. SO WE WILL RETURN WITH SOME [00:05:01] MINOR WORK. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? TO WHAT REASON IN GENERAL, ARE YOU FINISHED? ARE YOU HAVE MORE FOR DELIVERIES? THAT'S A, OH, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. NO, DELIVERIES ARE GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEP. UH, NEXT UPDATE. THE OTHER ITEM, NEXT STEP ON THE LIST WOULD BE FLAGGERS. UH, THERE WAS AN ITEM REGARDING WHY WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF FLAGGERS. UH, IF YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED, WE PREVIOUSLY HAD FLAGGERS UP THIS FAR NORTH AS RIGHT BEHIND THIS BUILDING HERE. UM, WHAT WE DID, WHAT WE FOUND IS WHAT THE FLAGGERS WEREN'T AS EFFECTIVE AS WE HAD HOPED. WHAT WE FOUND TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE WAS WE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF ESCORTS. SO WE ORIGINALLY HAD FIVE ESCORTS, WE DOUBLED THAT TO 10 TOTAL ESCORTS, ESCORT VEHICLES. WE ALSO DOUBLED THE NUMBER OF RADIOS WE HAD ON SITE. UH, SO PREVIOUSLY, UM, THE, THE FLAGGERS WERE MORE OF THE CAPTAINS OF THE DELIVERY AND WE CHANGED THAT TO BE ESCORTS AND GIVING THEM MORE CONTROL WITH THE FLY, WITH THE, EXCUSE ME, THE RADIOS AND OUR CREWS IN THE FIELD. SO ESCORT DIRECTLY TO THE FIELD. THE FLAGGER WE SAW MORE AS A MIDDLEMAN AND WEREN'T NECESSARILY HELPING THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS. UM, SO THAT'S THE REASON WE REDUCED THOSE FLAGGERS AND INCREASED THE ESCORTS INSTEAD. HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THAT PROCESS. DID Y'ALL HAVE AN ESCORT TODAY THAT YOU HAD TWO TRACTOR TRAILER UNITS THAT FLIPPED OVER? THE ONES THAT WENT IN THE DITCH? YES, SIR. THOSE WERE ESCORTED. UH, THE ISSUE OF THOSE PARTICULAR, THEY BOTH VARY AS FAR AS THE TWO INCIDENTS THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING. UH, BUT YES, THE THOSE WERE ESCORTED AT THE TIME. YES, BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS NO ESCORT FOR NEITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO LOADS. AND I ACTUALLY WENT TO THE SECOND ONE RIGHT AFTER IT HAPPENED AND WAS THERE FOR SEVERAL HOURS. SURE. AND I WAS QUESTIONING SOME OF YOUR GUYS THAT WAS THERE ON THE SCENE AND ASKED THEM ABOUT A FLAGGER, UH, OR ESCORT. I MEAN, AND THEY SAID THERE WAS NO ESCORT IN FRONT OF THAT TRUCK PARTICULARLY, AND THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THAT MORNING WHEN YOU TURNED THE FIRST ONE OVER. NOW IT TOOK, TO BE QUITE HONEST, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INCIDENTS, AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, WITH TRUCKS INVOLVING THE DITCHES MORE SPECIFICALLY, WHICH YEAH, I FOUND OUT A WHOLE LOT THAT DAY WHEN I WAS THERE. YEAH. WHICH, WHICH TRUCK? WELL INCIDENT YOUR FIRST TRACTOR TRAILER LOAD OF SOLAR PANELS THAT MORNING, SIR. OVER LESS THAN 500 FEET DOWN THE ROAD. YOUR LAST LOAD THAT AFTERNOON FLIPPED OVER. THAT'S THE ONE THAT I WAS AT, SIR, SIR. TOOK NINE AND A HALF HOURS TO GET IT UP. I KNOW ONE YOU'RE, AND WE HAD SOME VERY UNHAPPY LAYING ON US DOWN THERE THAT COULDN'T GET HOME WITHOUT GOING ALL THE WAY AROUND BECAUSE THE ROAD WAS BLOCKED. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY. SURE. I WOULD BE UNHAPPY TO, IF I GOT RIGHT TO MY HOUSE JUST ABOUT AND I HAD TO TURN AROUND AND GO BACK TO ROUTE 10 AND COME INTO SIR AND COME BACK AROUND 6 26. SO I THINK THAT WAS VERY POORLY OPERATED. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU ON Y'ALL'S PART. I WILL SAY THERE WERE DEFINITELY SOME LESSONS LEARNED THAT WE, THAT WE TOOK FROM THAT, THOSE INCIDENTS IN PARTICULAR. UM, THOSE INCIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY THE ONES THAT PROMPTED THE IDEA OF MORE RADIOS SO THAT WE COULD GET AN ANTICIPATION OF WHAT THE TRAFFIC VOLUME IS ON WHITE MARSH BEFORE WE LEAVE MOUNTAIN EBO. UM, HAVING THE ADDITIONAL RADIOS, WE FEEL LIKE IS, IS HAS KEPT US MORE TO SPEED AS WHAT TRAFFIC IS COMING AND GOING. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS PREFERABLY WE TRY TO KEEP TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING INTO SITE. SO IF WE LEAVE MOUNT NEBO WITH A LOAD OF PANELS IN THIS CASE, IDEALLY WE'RE USING THE RADIOS NOW 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER LOAD LEAVING AT THE SAME TIME. RIGHT. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A LOAD COME IN, ANY LOADS THAT ARE LEAVING, STAY AT THE GATE UNTIL THAT LOAD IS IN AND THEN ANOTHER TRUCK CAN HIT WHITE MARSH. 'CAUSE WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY IS THERE WERE MULTIPLE VEHICLES PASSING AT THE SAME TIME ON WHITE MARSH FOR, FOR BOTH THOSE INCIDENTS. YEAH. AND I HAD BEEN DOWN THERE AND JUST SAT AND WATCHED AND WATCHED LOADS COME IN. THERE WAS NO ESCORT. THAT'S WHY I'M SEEING WILLIAM, I I AND I LEARNED A WHOLE LOT THAT AFTERNOON WHEN I WENT ON THE SCENE BECAUSE YOU HAD SOME GUYS WORKING FOR Y'ALL THAT WAS THERE AND THEY WERE TELLING ME ABOUT A WHOLE LOT OF WRECKS THAT WE WOULD NEVER KNOWN ANYTHING ABOUT IF I HADN'T WENT DOWN THERE. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT ACCIDENTS THAT THE LAW WAS NOT INVOLVED IN. I UNDERSTAND THAT STATE POLICE WAS NOT NOTIFIED OR THE COUNTY ON THE FIRST LOAD THAT TURNED OVER THAT MORNING, STATE POLICE WAS NOTIFIED ON THE SECOND LOAD THAT AFTERNOON WHEN THAT ONE TURNED OVER. CORRECT. YOU SHOULD CALL THE STATE POLICE ANYTIME THAT YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT OUT THERE AS WELL AS THE COUNTY. UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT. I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT. WE, WE HAVE PREACHED THAT TO ALL OF OUR TEAMS, OUR VENDORS, OUR SUBCONTRACTORS. ANY INCIDENT INVOLVING ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT GATE, WE'VE INSTRUCTED OUR GUYS TO. WE WANT THE SAME THING. [00:10:01] A POLICE REPORT IS, IS THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND LEARNING FROM THESE LESSONS. WELL, WHEN YOU DO THAT, IT KIND OF RELIEVES US A LITTLE BIT. WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS US AND WANNA KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, THEN WE CAN GIVE 'EM AN ANSWER. SURE. NOW WE ARE BEING IT JUST AS UP TO DATE WHEN WE FIND IT TWO WEEKS LATER OR THREE WEEKS LATER WHEN SOMEBODY DOWN THE STREET TELLING US. AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE OPERATED. AGREED. SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN DO BETTER BECAUSE THE ONLY ESCORTS I SAW ON ANY OF YOUR STUFF THAT WAS GOING OUT OR COMING BACK WAS WHEN THEY WERE HAULING WIDE LOADS OF EQUIPMENT GOING BY MY HOUSE ALL THE WAY TO WAKEFIELD ON WHITE MARSH. THAT WAS THE ONLY TIME I EVER SAW ESCORTS. NOW, NOW THERE ARE, YOU MENTIONED THE EQUIPMENT. I DID WANT TO JUST BRING THAT, AS YOU GUYS MAY BE AWARE, THERE ARE CERTAIN PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT ARE LARGER THAN OTHERS. UH, OUR, OUR, OUR BELLY PANS ARE OUR BIGGEST PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE. THOSE WHEN THEY LEAVE AND WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY COME TO SITE AND WHEN THEY LEAVE SITE, THEY TYPICALLY DON'T FOLLOW THE TMP 'CAUSE THEY FOLLOW A SPECIFIC VDOT PERMIT FOR A HEAVY LOAD. RIGHT. UM, SO WE HAVE GOTTEN SEVERAL SIMILAR CALLS OR QUESTIONS, UH, FROM NEIGHBORS OF, OF WHY IS THIS TRUCK HEADING DOWN THIS ROAD? WE NORMALLY DON'T SEE TRUCKS DOWN THIS ROAD. AGAIN, WHEN THESE LARGE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT LEAVE, THEY OFTEN TAKE DIFFERENT ROUTES THAT ARE, THAT ARE FORMULATED THROUGH VDOT. SO THAT'S WHY YOU MAY SEE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. ON THAT SAME NOTE, THAT BRINGS UP A GOOD TOPIC. WE ARE FINISHING UP WITH CIVIL WORK AS WELL. SO I MENTIONED THE DELIVERIES WOULD FINISH IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS. EXCUSE ME. CIVIL WORK WILL ALSO BE COM WE'LL ALSO WRAP UP IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, AND YOU MAY SEE IT ALREADY, A LOT OF OUR IRON WILL START TO LEAVE. SIGHT IS LEAVING SITE. I THINK WE ORIGINALLY HAD CLOSE TO 15 BELLY PANS AND NOW WE'VE ONLY GOT FIVE OR SIX LEFT. THOSE WILL BE LEAVING SITE BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. SO HERE, MID-JULY, WE EXPECT TO HAVE ALL OF OUR BIG IRON OFF OF THE JOB SITE. YEAH. I GOT BEHIND ONE FRIDAY, THIS PAST FRIDAY THAT WAS HEADING TO WAKEFIELD, ONE OF THE BELLY PANS. YEAH. YEAH. BUT THEY'RE VERY BIG. THE ONLY ESCORT IT HAD WAS A ROAD TRACTOR WAY OVER IN FRONT, OVER A MILE TO THE HEAD OF IT. AND EVERY TIME THEY MEET SOMEBODY THEY'D HAVE TO GET OFF THE ROAD, BACK ALL THE WAY UP TO GO IN SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY. AND I DON'T THINK YOU LEAVE VEHICLE NEEDS TO BE THAT FAR AHEAD. I WOULD AGREE THAT YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY, I I'M GOOD TO HEAR THAT FEEDBACK FROM OUR, WELL THAT'S, THIS WOULD BE OUR VENDOR'S LOGISTICS, BUT ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THE, THE LEAD VEHICLE SHOULD BE VERY CLOSE ENOUGH TO YEAH. PREVENT ANY SIDEWAYS CARS. I THINK YOU'LL PERMIT FROM VDOT REQUIRES THAT ALSO. OF COURSE. YES. WELL JUST TRY TO DO BETTER ON IT NOW. . YES SIR. WE ALL LIVE AND LEARN AND WE'VE LEARNED A WHOLE LOT FROM THAT OPERATION THAT I HOPE THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT IF THERE IS, UH, WE ANYMORE AND, AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE AS WELL AS FAR AS THE ESCORT OPERATION AND TRYING TO GET, AGAIN, TRYING TO NAVIGATE WHITE MARSH IN PARTICULAR WITH THE ONCOMING, WITH THE GOING AND THE COMING TRAFFIC. ALRIGHT. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YES. SO WE TALKED ABOUT FLAGGERS, WE TALKED ABOUT DELIVERIES. UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA WAS JUST THE VDOT REVIEW, UH, FROM MR. PAUL ANDERSON WHO CAME OUT AND, AND DID A INSPECTION OF THE ROADS. UH, WE RECEIVED THAT THE SHOULDERS ALONG MILL SWAMP AND SURREY BEACHLAND BELLEVUE AND WHITE MARSH WERE ASKED TO BE BROUGHT UP TO GRAY AND STABILIZED. SO WE PLAN TO DO THAT. UH, THERE WAS ALSO A NOTE THERE, REPAIR ANY DITCHES DURING CONSTRUCTION AS THERE DAMAGE. UM, AS SUCH WE ARE REPAIRING DITCHES AS WE GO. LIKE YOU MENTIONED THOSE TWO INCIDENTS, THOSE DITCHES WERE REPAIRED WITHIN 48 HOURS, UH, OF THOSE INCIDENTS. AND WE, WE CONTINUALLY REPAIR ANY DITCHES AS WE GO. UH, SO BASICALLY BE BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'LL ENGAGE MR. ANDERSON AND SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT AND IDENTIFY ANY THAT MAYBE THEY'RE SEEING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT. BUT WE TRY TO KEEP THOSE DITCHES CLEAN AS WE, AS WE GO. UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF ENGAGING CONTRACTORS TO TAKE A LOOK AT BOTH THE SHOULDER WORK THAT I JUST MENTIONED, UH, AS WELL AS THE OTHER TWO ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS THE INTERSECTION OF WHITE MARSH AND BEACHLAND AND BEACHLAND AND JONES DRIVE ARE IS THE OTHER ONE. UH, SO AGAIN, I'M SOLICITING VENDORS RIGHT NOW AND TRYING TO GET SOME QUOTES TO GET THAT WORK DONE. AND AS SOON AS WE GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT SCOPE AND THE SCHEDULE LOOK LIKE, WE'LL REPORT BACK TO YOU GUYS. UH, WITH THAT SCHEDULE. I WOULD ANTICIPATE IT BEING THIRD QUARTER, FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. WE'LL OBVIOUSLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, OUR CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC IS OUTTA THE WAY BEFORE WE START DOING ANY, ESPECIALLY WORK TO THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT ON WHITE MARCH AND BEACHLAND. [00:15:01] UH, BUT IF WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER WORK, THE SHOULDER WORK WILL LIKELY START MUCH EARLIER IN THAT, THAT WOULD LIKELY START HERE. UH, AS SOON AS WE CAN GET QUOTES AND GET THAT ROLLING. SO THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, WE'D LIKE TO START ON THAT WORK. OKAY. CAN I ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY. YEP. MR. CHAIR. YEAH. SO YOU ALREADY HAVE THE VDOT PERMITS TO MAKE THESE ROAD REPAIRS, UH, PERMIT. WE HAVE THE VDOT S RECOMMENDATION, VDOT VDOT S UH, GUIDANCE IF YOU WILL, OF OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE REPAIRED. CORRECT. SO DO YOU NEED A PERMIT FROM VDOT? I'M JUST SAYING, I DON'T KNOW. NO, I DON'T. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. NO, WE'VE JUST BEEN, WE, WE REACHED OUT TO VDOT AND SAID, HEY, CAN YOU GIVE US, UH, BASICALLY INSPECTION OF WHAT, HOW YOU SEE THE ROADS CURRENTLY. RIGHT. UH, WE DID THAT WITH BOTH SURREY COUNTY AND I WHITE AND WE'VE GOTTEN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS ROAD REPAIRS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL PLAN TO, TO BID OUT AND, UH, AND, AND WORK ON. THINK YOU HAVE TO PUT IT BACK SATISFACTORY TO THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT, RIGHT. YEP. OKAY. QUESTION FOR YOU. UH, YES SIR. ON UH, WHITE MARSH, UH, I LIVE ON WHITE MARSH AND UH, SO THEREFORE I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE ROAD THE WAY IT WAS PRIOR TO AND THE WAY IT IS NOW. YES SIR. AND THE ROAD BED ITSELF IS ACTUALLY SUNKEN IN SOME AREAS AS WELL AS BROKEN IN A LOT OF AREAS. SO, UH, DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT IS PROJECTED TO BE REPAIRED? I COULDN'T SPEAK TO INDIVIDUAL AREAS. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE, THE DRIVE THAT WE DID, WE, WE CONCENTRATED MOSTLY ON AS FAR AS WHAT VDOT CONCENTRATED ON. AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT WHAT THEY'RE CALLING SPIDER CRACKING, WHICH IS THE, PARTICULARLY THE EDGES OF THE ROAD. IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE LIKE FIRST 18 INCHES OF BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, EVEN WHEN THE ROAD'S INTACT, IT'S STARTING TO HAVE THAT, THAT SPIDER WEB EFFECT IS WHAT THEY'RE CALLING IT. UM, SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH, WITH MULTIPLE AREAS ON WHITE MARSH THAT ARE SEEING THAT DEGRADATION. UH, AS FAR AS THE, THE ROAD BED THAT YOU MENTIONED, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M, I MEAN THE, I CALL IT THE ROAD BED, THE ROAD ITSELF, NOT THE SHOULDERS, BUT THE ROAD THERE, THERE, I CAN THINK OF A HANDFUL OF VERY PARTICULAR, UH, POTHOLE TYPE AND I, I'M, I SAY POTHOLE, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT TERM FROM A ROAD PERSPECTIVE. I UNDERSTAND. BUT YES, THERE ARE UH, SOME PARTICULAR AREAS THAT WE'LL ADDRESS AS WELL, THOSE POTHOLES AND ON SOME OF YOUR ROADS THAT YOU'VE BEEN TRAVELING ON WITH A WHOLE LOT OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND STUFF. MM-HMM. . 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN RIDING THEM AND I LIVE ON WHITE MARSH TOO. ON WHITE MARSH. THERE'S SEVERAL PLACES WHERE THEY WOULD MEET SOMEONE AND THEY HAD TO GET OVER ON THE SHOULDER. THAT BLACK TOP AND THE BLACK TOP IS BROKE OFF WAY UP INTO THE HIGHWAY LIKE THIS. YEP. AND YOU CAME BACK AND PUT ROCKS. SIR, SIR, THAT'S NOT SATISFACTORY. THAT BLACKTOP NEEDS TO BE PUT BACK THERE RATHER THAN ROCK BECAUSE ANYBODY ELSE COME ALONG THERE WITH A CAR AND I KNOW 'CAUSE I HAD TO GET OVER THERE OTHER DAY. BOOM. AND YOU KNOW WHAT THAT DOES TO YOU? FRONT END, NOT GOOD THINGS. AND THOSE, WE, WE PLAN THE, THE QUOTES THAT WE ARE SOLICITING RIGHT NOW FOR REPAIRS, WE PLAN TO WALK THROUGH VDOT BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH ANY WORK. SO WHAT WHATEVER APPROVED METHOD THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS. YEAH, SIR. BECAUSE I THINK WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST PHONE CALL WITH EVERYBODY ONLINE THAT NIGHT, IT WAS SAID THAT IF THE BLACKTOP GOT BROKE UP, Y'ALL WOULD REPAIR IT. AND I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO WAIT FOR VDOT TO TELL YOU THAT. NO, IT WE'RE NOT. AND WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO WAIT FOR VDOT TO TELL US THIS. UH, THIS IS MORE OF JUST A SEQUENCING THING. RIGHT. I I DON'T WANNA GO IN AND START PAVEMENT WORK ON WHITE MARKS, AS YOU GUYS KNOW. IT'S, IT'S STILL PRETTY BUSY AND IT WILL BE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE MORE WEEKS, UH, UNTIL MID-JULY WHEN WE GET THE LAST OF OUR DELIVERIES. AND, AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT REPAIRS. I WOULD LIKE TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN YOU DO LOOK AT IT, I'D LIKE TO GO WITH YOU ABSOLUTELY. AND LOOK AT IT. YES, SIR. CAN MAKE THAT EXPLANATION JUST FOR MY OWN SELF . ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. CAN I, CAN I ASK JUST A QUICK QUESTION? YEAH, SORRY. HEY, GREG, CRESWELL, DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH THE TEAM WITH A ES. UM, JUST A QUESTION. SO YOU'RE REFERENCING ONE AREA SPECIFIC. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU MAYBE EITHER TAKE A PICTURE OR SHARE WITH US OR MAYBE SEND THROUGH FRANCIS? UM, JUST SO WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I HADN'T SAID SOMETHING TO HER EARLIER AT, AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS. OKAY. 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN, RIGHT? IT DIDN'T HAPPEN WAY BACK FIRST OF THE YEAR WHEN YOU GOT BRINGING REAL HEAVY STUFF IN. YEAH. YOU WERE BRINGING IT IN AND GOING OUT SEVERAL DAYS BACK AND FORTH. THAT'S WHEN THE EDGES OF WHITE MARSH, THE BLACK TOP GOT BROKEN ALL UP. AND SO WE'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY BETWEEN SAY, UM, SO WHITE MARSH BETWEEN ROUTE 10 AND UM, BEACHLAND AND BEACHLAND BEACH IN THAT SECTION. I'M TALKING REFERENCE FROM [00:20:01] BE CASTLE TILL YOU GET TO WAKEFIELD ON WHITEWASH. THERE'S SEVERAL PLACES AND IT WEREN'T LIKE THAT TO START WITH. OKAY. AND THERE WEREN'T ANY LOG TRUCKS RUNNING BACK THEN WHEN THIS WAS HAPPENING. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU HAVE, AND I WOULD JUST ASK, BECAUSE THIS, THIS HELPS US, IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC LOCATION, I WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU WOULD COMMUNICATE THAT WITH US. LIKE, HEY, THIS IS MAJOR POTHOLE AT X, Y, AND Z. UM, 'CAUSE THOSE ARE THINGS WE, WE CAN ADDRESS. BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK VDOT HAS BEEN MAKING IMPROVEMENTS ON POTHOLES ONLY JUST BECAUSE I GUESS OF HOW IT'S HANDLED, WHATEVER THE PROCESS IS TO REPAIR THE POTHOLE. UM, BUT IF YOU CAN DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. OKAY. THE TRUCK THAT'S RUNNING THAT'S GOT THE BOOM OUT FRONT, THAT'S SPRAYING SOME LIQUID TAR AND A LITTLE MESH, IS THAT Y'ALL OR VDOT? OR IS THAT VDOT. BDOT. OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT, AS GREG MENTIONED, AND THAT GOES BACK TO, UM, TO ANY POINT IF YOU, IF THERE'S SPECIFIC AREAS OR YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT. THERE'S SPECIFIC AREAS THAT YOU SEE SPECIFIC POTHOLES. ABSOLUTELY. LET US KNOW WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THOSE ISSUES AT. UM, BECAUSE THE, THE POTHOLES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THOSE DO REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION WITH VDOT. WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN REPAIRING 'EM AS THEY COME, BUT AS, AS YOU JUST MENTIONED WITH THAT SPRAYER, WE'VE SEEN 'EM OUT THERE, THE POTHOLES, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THE, TO VDOT THAT WE'VE SPOKE TO. THEY OFTEN DO THOSE THEMSELVES. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO COORDINATE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT ALRIGHT. DOUBLE-DIPPING, BUT THE EDGE OF THE ROAD THEY, WE'VE ALREADY TOLD 'EM THAT'S, THAT'S ON US. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING I MIGHT GET WITH MR. LANE ONE DAY AND HE AND I MIGHT JUST RIDE AND WE CAN TAKE PICTURES AND WE CAN GET BACK WITH FRANCIS? ABSOLUTELY. AND SHE CAN CONTACT YOU THAT, THAT IS HELPFUL. ABSOLUTELY. IF THAT WILL HELP. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY. AND CALL ME AND I'D LOVE TO RIDE WITH YOU. THAT WILL WORK TOO. YES, SIR. OKAY. YOU'LL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE YOU DONE NOW? , ? I THINK SO, YES. , I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS IF I MAY PLEASE, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. UM, YOU KNOW, JUST I THINK TODAY, OR MAYBE IT WAS YESTERDAY, ONE OF YOUR, UH, VEHICLES RAN OFF AND, UH, THE ROAD AND CLIPPED A, UH, FENCE POST ON AND ENDED UP DRIVING THROUGH PARTIALLY AND, UM, THEIR CORNFIELD THAT THEY'RE GROWING CORNFIELD. YES, SIR. HAD NO LICENSE. SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S AS YOU AS A CONTRACTOR, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME. OKAY. HOW CAN THAT BE FIXED? I MEAN, YOU'RE, I KNOW THEY'RE SUBCONTRACTORS AND, BUT REGARDLESS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DRIVING WITHOUT DRIVER'S LICENSE, THEY TRY TO LEAVE THE SCENE OF THE ACCIDENT WITHOUT EVEN STOPPING THE OWNER WHO OF THE PROPERTY WHO, WHOSE POST GOT HIT HAD TO CHASE HIM DOWN. UM, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T WANNA BRING THE SCHOOL BUS UP IN, IN DETAIL, BUT AGAIN, THE SAME THING. NO DRIVER'S LICENSE WHAT CAN BE DONE TO STOP THIS. I I MEAN, IT'S SAFE. IT IS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ALL THEY DO IS GET A TICKET AND THAT'S NOT GOOD , YOU KNOW? NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. A TICKET PROBABLY ISN'T GONNA, ISN'T GONNA STOP THE MATTER. AND, AND IT'S OKAY BRINGING THE, THE BUS INTO THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE THAT AND THIS INCIDENT HAVE PROMPTED SOME OF THE SAME RESPONSE THAT WE'VE HAD AS FAR AS ACTION ITEMS THAT WE HAVE PUT INTO PLACE AND ARE PUTTING INTO PLACE TO PREVENT JUST WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. UH, I I DO WANNA POINT OUT, SO EMPLOYEES OF OF A ES AND OUR SUBCONTRACTORS SUPPORTING THE CAVALIER SOLAR PROJECT ARE NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED TO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE TO WORK ON SITE, BUT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE TO DRIVE ON SITE, PARK, ON SITE, OPERATE A MOTOR VEHICLE, ON SITE, ET CETERA. SO HOW, WHAT WE'VE DONE AND WHAT WE'RE CHANGING IN ORDER TO BETTER CONTROL THAT IS INSTITUTING A PARKING PERMIT SYSTEM THAT WE NOW HAVE ON SITE. IT WAS, IT, IT'S JUST BEEN ROLLING OUT OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS. SO UNFORTUNATELY IT DIDN'T CATCH THE GENTLEMAN FROM MONDAY. UH, I AM BEING TOLD THAT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT ISSUED OUT AS FAR AS THIS WEEK OF, OF BADGES. AND SO THAT IS OUR INTENT IS, AND WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY, I'VE SEEN PHYSICALLY TURNED SOME CARS AWAY THIS WEEK IF THEY DO NOT HAVE A PARKING PASS, WHICH AGAIN THAT PARKING PASS IS LINKED TO A EXCEL SPREADSHEET WITH A MATRIX OF A DRIVER'S LICENSE AND A NUMBER AND ET CETERA. IF WITHOUT THAT PASS WE WILL NO LONGER LET THEM DRIVE ON SITE, PARK ON SITE, BE ON SITE. SO THAT THAT'S HOW, THAT'S HOW WE PLAN TO, TO KEEP THESE CARS OFF THE ROAD THAT WELL ARE DID NOT SHOULD BE ON THE ROAD. UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT KEEPING 'EM OFF THE ROAD, YOU'RE KEEPING OFF YOUR PROPERTY BECAUSE THEN THEY HAVE TO TURN AROUND AND GO HOME AND GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO RING THEM. IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY? YOU'RE ALLOWING THEM ON THE PROPERTY TO PARK AND WORK AND DRIVE. RIGHT. BUT IF I DRIVE UP TO THE GATE AND I DON'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE, YOU'RE [00:25:01] NOT COMING INTO MY GATE. WELL, THEN HE IS TURNING AROUND AND DRIVING BACK AGAIN. I I JUST DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THE HIRING PROCESS, IF IT'S REQUIRED THAT THEY HAVE A DRIVING PERMIT IF THEY'RE DRIVING YOUR VEHICLES OR THEIR OWN VEHICLES. I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN CONTROL THAT. THE, PROBABLY NOT. BUT THE DIFFICULTY THERE IS THAT, THAT OFTEN YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT THE WORLD CONSTRUCTION THAT OFTEN CHANGES, RIGHT. SO THEY MAY HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE AT THE START AND THEY MAY NOT AT THE BEGINNING OR VICE VERSA. RIGHT. RIGHT, RIGHT. UM, WE CERTAINLY DON'T, THE INTENTION ISN'T TO TURN DRIVERS AWAY AND PUT THEM BACK ON THE ROAD AND CAUSE MORE DANGER. RIGHT. THE INTENTION IS TO GET THE WORD OUT THAT WE DON'T ALLOW DRIVERS WITHOUT A LICENSE TO BE AROUND OUR SITE. OKAY. AND I THINK ONCE WE GET THAT WORD OUT, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY OUR INTENTION HERE IS TO MAKE THAT KNOWN THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A LICENSE, WE DON'T WANT YOU COMING NEAR OUR SITE. UNDERSTAND. SO THAT'S PASSED ON TO YOUR SUBCONTRACTORS AS WELL. EVERY, EVERY VEHICLE ON, ON JOB SITE, INCLUDING OUR, MY VEHICLE AND EVERY SUBCONTRACTOR'S VEHICLE WILL HAVE A PARKING PASS. SO SOMEBODY'S OUT THERE WITH THAT SPREADSHEET AND SAID, JOHN SMITH, UH, YOU'RE ABLE TO DRIVE ON IT BECAUSE YOU, YOU'RE ON THE LIST, BUT THEY'RE CHECK THEY'RE CHECKING THE HANGING TAGS ON THE WAY IN. OKAY. YES SIR. OKAY. SO YEAH, WE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY HAVE A HANGING TAG THAT GOES IN THE WINDOW. IT, AND AGAIN, THAT TAG WOULD BE LINKED TO A DRIVER'S LICENSE, A LICENSE DRIVER. SO YOU, BUT YOU'RE NOT CHECKING THE DRIVER OR THE NAME ON THE, YOUR LIST WITH THE PERSON WHO'S DRIVING BECAUSE YOU CAN HANG YOUR TAG ON ANY CAR, MY CAR AND DRIVE THROUGH THERE. AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF THAT DRIVER HAS A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR NOT. RIGHT? I'M NOT SURE IF I'M FOLLOWING YOU, IF AN EMPLOYEE, ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES, THE EMPLOYEES HAS A DRIVING STICKER OR, OR THE PARKING STICKER, WHICH HE WOULD ONLY BE ADMINISTERED ONE BY VERIFYING HIS ID AND GIVE AND PROVIDING A COPY OF HIS ID. SO THEREFORE HIS TAG IS TAGGED TO THAT DRIVER'S LICENSE. OKAY. BUT HE TAKES THAT AND PUTS IT IN MY CAR AND I DRIVE TO YOUR FACILITY. HOW ARE YOU GONNA STOP ME? I HAVE THE TAG. WE THEN WE, WE WILL VERIFY TAGS AT THAT POINT. I, YEAH. YEAH. I JUST, I I'M GONNA UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. NO, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. YEP. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU A WHOLE LOT FOR COMING TONIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU COUNSEL. ALRIGHT. OKAY. DID EVERYONE GET A CHANCE TO GO OVER THE MINUTES IN THE LAST MEETING? MR. CHAIRMAN? I'VE READ THE MINUTES AND I HAVE NO, UH, NO CHANGES. I RECOMMEND THAT THEY BE, UH, ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED. OKAY. CAN WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. THE AYES HAVE IT. FRANCIS DO YOU WANT TO COVER ANY OF THE OTHER STUFF THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT? UM, MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSION MEMBERS? UM, FOR A, I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE SHERIFF THIS AFTERNOON. UM, HE INFORMED ME THAT HE HAD SPOKEN WITH, UM, WITH THE RESOURCE OFFICER AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND, UM, REGARDING THE CAMERA AND SPEED COUNTERS BEING PLACED OUT AT THE, AT THE SCHOOLS. BUT HE SAID HE GOT A LOT OF NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T FEEL THAT THE AREA WARRANTED THAT, UM, KIND OF EQUIPMENT IN THE AREA AND FEEL THAT, UM, IT WOULD BE MORE OF A, I GUESS I WOULDN'T SAY HINDRANCE, BUT IT BE, WOULD BE MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN RESOLVING A PROBLEM. SO HE SAID AT THIS TIME HE DOESN'T THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA, UM, LOOK INTO IT ANY FURTHER UNLESS IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WOULD, UM, JUST CONSIDER WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO DO. BUT RIGHT NOW HE SAID HE DOESN'T SEE A NEED, NEED TO HAVE IT INSTALLED. WELL THAT, EXCUSE ME, AFTER HEARING WHAT I DID THIS AFTERNOON ON THE NEWS, I THINK IT'S BEST FOR THE TAILOR OF THAT UNTIL FIND OUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THESE OTHER AREAS. THERE'S LAWSUITS BEING FILED BECAUSE IT'S TAKING AWAY PEOPLE'S RIGHTS BY HAVING CAMERAS, SPEED CAMERAS AND THEY'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE USED IN WORK ZONES AND SCHOOL ZONES AND THEY'RE USING THEM EVERYWHERE ELSE. SO I [00:30:01] WOULD SAY LET'S TAILOR THAT UNTIL WE FIND OUT DOWN THE ROAD WHAT'S GONNA TURN ON THAT. NO NEED IN GOING TO THE TROUBLE IF IT'S NOT GONNA WORK. YES SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FOR ITEM B, CAUSLEY ROAD AND SALISBURY ROAD, UM, ITEM C, GRAVEL PIT DRIVE, UM, CLEAN OUT DITCHES AND FOR F UM, OKAY, WELL I'LL DO, LET'S SEE, B AND C. UM, MR. CALHOUN, YOU HAD MENTIONED THOSE AT THE LAST MEETING AND HAS SPOKE WITH MR. CHARLES CAN DAY. HE INFORMED ME THAT ALL PROJECTS ARE IN QUEUE TO BE DONE. UM, HE SAID THE PROJECTS THAT I GUESS HAVE WATER COMING ACROSS THE ROAD WILL BE DONE FIRST AND CONTRACTORS ARE CURRENTLY, UM, VACUUMING OUT THE CULVERT PIPES AND THEY ARE BEHIND ON THE PROJECTS. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, UM, SOME OF THEIR EQUIPMENT IS DOWN BUT THEY ARE WORKING ON IT. RIGHT. AND BEACHLAND AND WHITE MARSH AND MR. CRESSWELL AND MR. BELLA BRADY ADDRESS THAT UM, SIDEWALK FLOODING TOWN OF DRON. UM, IF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT RECENTLY, YOU SEE THAT VDOT HAS, UM, MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SIDEWALKS IN THE TOWN OF SERE AS WELL AS THE TOWN OF DRON. SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AND TAKE CARE OF THAT SITUATION. UM, BUT I, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO ASK THE SHERIFF ABOUT, UM, EXTRA DEPUTIES OR DEPUTIES PATROLLING OUT ON WHITE MARSH 'CAUSE HE GOT A CALL AT THE TIME WHEN I WAS SPEAKING WITH HIM. SO I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH HIM AND MAYBE EMAIL YOU ALL AS FAR AS THAT SITUATION IS CONCERNED. OKAY. AND FOR L YOUR QUARTERLY REPORTS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS. UM, IF YOU REVIEW THOSE AND HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE INFORMATION, I CAN FORWARD THOSE TO, UM, MR. CARROLL AND FOLLOW BACK UP WITH YOU. UH, OKAY. AND ON THE OTHER, THE SCHOOL SIDEWALK PROJECT, UM, MR. WADE INFORMED ME THAT HE WAS SURE THAT, UM, THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE CAPITAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UM, PROJECT FUND. UH, AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT PROJECT, I'M ASSUMING COMPLETED THIS YEAR. ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE. UM, FOR THE ROUTE 31, ROUTE 10 INTERSECTION, I BRIEFLY WATCHED, UM, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING WITH MR. WADE THIS AFTERNOON AND MR. CARROLL SAID WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING OR WE'LL LOOK INTO DOING THERE FOR, UM, TRAFFIC COMING, COMING INTO THE TOWN IS TO POSSIBLY, UM, 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A 55 MILE SPEED LIMIT THERE CURRENTLY AND MAYBE DROP IT DOWN TO 45 AND THEN TO 35 TO KINDA HELP WITH THAT. UM, CALM THE TRAFFIC THERE AND DECREASE THE INCIDENTS OCCURRING AT THAT INTERSECTION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. LANE? ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING ANY OF THIS? NONE HERE. NO. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE, UH, KNOW THROUGH TRUCK SIGNAGE AND ALL THAT ON SIX 17 BETWEEN HIGHWAY 10 AND SIX 50? WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT OKAY. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BACK ON THAT YET. UM, MYSELF AS WELL AS I BELIEVE MR. WADE, DID YOU SPEAK WITH UM, MS. PIERCE? YES, SIR. THAT'S BAY CASTLE TRAINER. HE'S A SIGN THAT THAT'S RIGHT BY IT. YEAH, THEY'VE TAKEN, TAKEN THAT ONE DOWN WHILE THEY'RE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK, BUT, UM, NOBODY MESSED IT. NO. . YEAH. 'CAUSE I WENT THROUGH THAT THE OTHER DAY, SO THAT ONE'S DOWN AT THE MOMENT. UM, BUT I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT AND MAYBE HAVE SOMETHING TO REPORT BACK TO YOU AT THE SEPTEMBER [00:35:01] MEETING. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. BAILEY. YES. WASN'T THERE A, A STUDY ALSO TO LOOK AT PUTTING A NO, UH, THROUGH TRUCK SIGN OUT ON 10 PRIOR TO THAT INTERSECTION? UM, YES. THAT SO THAT TRUCKS WOULDN'T BE COMMITTED TO MAKING THAT TURN AND ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT THERE'S A SIGN THERE? UM, YES, I BELIEVE THE DISCUSSION AT ROUTE 10 WAS TO POSSIBLY HAVE A DIFFERENT COLOR SIGN PLACED AT ROUTE 10. AND I BELIEVE MR. JONES HAD SAID, PLACED IN A SIGN AT THE INTERSECTION OF HOG ISLAND ROAD AND BACON'S CASTLE TRAIL. SO I'LL FOLLOW UP ON ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH MR. CARROLL ABOUT THAT. UM, BUT IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT, SO I'LL FOLLOW UP AND SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT. MS. BAIL, I, I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING IN OUR LAST MEETING. I, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH A RESIDENT WAS BLOCKING HER DRIVEWAY AND THE CAR WAS STICKING OUT AND THERE WAS, HAS THAT BEEN RESOLVED? I KEPT, I PASSED THROUGH THERE THE OTHER DAY AND I DID TAKE A PICTURE. I HAVE IT ON MY PHONE. UM, SHE DID HAVE, UM, ALL OF HER COMPANY WITHIN THE DRIVEWAY. SHE STILL PUT HER LITTLE, UM, SHE'S PUTTING HER HARDWARE STUFF THAT I CALL HARDWARE, ROCKS AND BRICKS AND STUFF. SHE'S STILL PUTTING THEM OUT ON VDOT. MM-HMM. . BUT, UM, THEY'RE NOT, I, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO, UM, THEY WERE ACTUALLY ON THE PAVEMENT THE LAST TIME I WENT THROUGH THERE. ON THE PAVEMENT. WHICH, WHICH DAY ON THE PA WHICH DID YOU GO THROUGH THERE? BECAUSE I, LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN BEEN THREE, FOUR WEEKS AGO. MM-HMM. . I HAVEN'T BEEN RECENTLY RIGHT THIS AFTERNOON THERE ABOUT A FOOT FROM THE PAVEMENT. ABOUT A FOOT. YEAH. SO SHE STILL AT WORK? MM-HMM. . DID, UH, DID THEY, UH, LET HER GO EVER GO OUT TO WORK OR, UM, I DON'T KNOW. THE SHERIFF WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, I THINK IN CONTACTING THE PERSON THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY ALSO. ALRIGHT. I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE SHERIFF AND UM, SEE WHERE HE IS WITH THAT. I THINK SHE'S GETTING A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN WHAT SHE WAS, BUT WE JUST NEED TO TRY TO KEEP IT OFF OF THE STATE AND RIGHTO IF THERE'S ANY WAY POSSIBLE. MM-HMM, . OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED TO QUESTION MS. BABY ON BEFORE SHE SITS? AND IF NOT, THANK YOU AGAIN. FRANK SAYS, AS ALWAYS, AND WE CAN GO INTO NEW BUSINESS NOW, WHICH THE SHERIFF IS NOT HERE. SO WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT GRANTS AND SCHOOL CONCERNS. EXCUSE ME, RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SCHOOL CONCERNS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. AND NO ONE HAS BROUGHT ANYTHING TO MY ATTENTION. OK. DO ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ON PUBLIC HIGHWAY CONCERNS? MR. CHAIRMAN? I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UH, HONORABLE MR. HARDY COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME WITH THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR. MR. BOARD. I MAY HAVE SOME SCHOOL CONCERNS FOR YOU, MS. THOMAS . OKAY, WELL, NOT NECESSARILY SCHOOL CONCERNS, BUT, UM, SCHOOL BUS, UH, ROUTES, I GUESS. SO IF I COULD STEP FORWARD, I GOT A FEW PICTURES. I'LL START WITH THE FIRST ONE. UM, BEAR WITH ME SOME PICTURES WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS. THESE MIGHT BE WORTH ABOUT 50 WORDS. SO TWO PHOTOGRAPHER. SO WE JUST, WE YOU SEE THERE FAMILIAR, FAMILIAR WHERE I LIVE. IF NOT, IT'S UH, COMING INTO THE COUNTY FROM, UH, ALLEN WHITE THAT YOU'RE FACING. UH, YOU'RE GOING, UH, WESTBOUND. UM, SO IF, IF YOU EVER COME THROUGH THAT WAY COMING, GOING EASTBOUND FROM SURY, YOU MAY NOT NOTICE IT 'CAUSE YOU'RE DRIVING. BUT THERE'S A, A HUMP IN THE ROAD THERE THAT YOU CAN'T SEE OVER. AND IF YOU'RE COMING FROM ALLWAY INTO SURREY, GOING OUT WESTBOUND, YOU CAN'T SEE DOWN. RIGHT? SO IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND AND THIRD PAGES, WOULD YOU, WHAT YOU SEE IN THERE IS, UH, A, A TRACTOR TRAILER, THE JACKKNIFE, BECAUSE THE BUS WAS STOPPED DOWN FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, ABOUT A HUNDRED YARDS, MAYBE PAST WHERE YOU SEE THERE WAS, UH, UH, SKI [00:40:01] MARKS. SO HE CAME OVER THE TOP. HE, HE CREST THE HILL THERE. OH MY GOODNESS. A BUS WITH A STOP SIGN OUT AND HE, AND HE LOCKED UP AND LUCKILY, UH, HE RECOVERED. UM, NOW UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S ONE INCIDENT OF MANY THAT WE'VE, UH, OBSERVED OUT THERE. AND ALSO CARS COMING THROUGH SPEEDING. SO OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN YOU DO, UM, MY ASK OR WE CAN LOOK INTO IT AND I NORMALLY, I WOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND AFFORD THIS TO MR. KE. I KNOW, I THINK SCHOOL SIGNS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE IS KIND OF A COUNTY, UH, CONCERN OR COUNTY ISSUE. SO PRIMARILY IF WE CAN MAYBE GET A, A STUDY DONE OR AT LEAST GET THE SIDE SCHOOL BUS STOP OR SOMETHING OUT THERE ON, ON END. 'CAUSE AT THE TOP OF THE HILL WHERE THE, UM, I GUESS THE HORSE FENCE, I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE OWNERS ANYMORE. IT USED TO BE THE, UM, UH, SHE'S ONLY LEFT GOING TO SMITHFIELD. YES, SIR. UM, BUT, UH, MAY, MAYBE THE FENCE ON TOP OF THE HILL ON BOTH SIDES. MAYBE I, I, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT, SO THERE ARE FOUR, THERE ARE FOUR STOPS FROM MY DRIVEWAY TO THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL THERE. AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE BY THE TIME, UH, ANY VEHICLE, UM, IS IS IS COMING FROM EITHER AN EITHER WAY, UH, NOT REALIZING SCHOOL WASN'T ABOUT TO STOP AGAIN, IT, IT, IT COULD BE SOME SAFETY ISSUES, SAFETY CONCERNS. I'D DEFINITELY HAVE SOME. UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, SO FOR TIME THROUGH THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL, IT, IT WAS NO STOPS THERE FOR MANY YEARS. NOW IT'S FOUR WITH ABOUT ABOUT SIX KIDS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT CONSTITUTES, UH, A SCHOOL ZONE OR A PICKUP ZONE OR HOW MANY STOPS THERE IS, BUT DEFINITELY WORTH LISTENING TO. AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE, UH, SOME DUE DILIGENCE THAT MATTER 'CAUSE UH, NOT ONLY MY NIECES AND NEPHEWS OUT THERE, BUT OTHER, YOU KNOW, OTHER, UH, PARENTS' KIDS AS WELL. AND, UM, I'M GONNA TELL YOU, IT'S UM, PEOPLE COME TO THAT LITERALLY FLYING AND IT'S UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SOLID LINE THERE. THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, IT'S NOT EVEN THERE. THEY PASSED FROM THE WHITE FENCE, THE, THE JOHNSON PROPERTY THERE, YOU CANNOT SEE OVER THAT CREST. SO I'M GONNA TELL YOU, I'M I, I GOT MY CAMERAS HIDDEN FACING THE ROAD BECAUSE ONE DAY UNFORTUNATELY IT'S GONNA HAPPEN. AND, UM, I HOPE I'M NOT HOME TO SEE IT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE BRUTAL. AND, UM, DEFINITELY HOPE, YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S INVOLVED. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE DAYS JUST DISTRACTED DRIVERS AND SPEEDERS, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BECOMING MORE AND MORE, UM, DANGEROUS OUT HERE ON THE ROAD. AND, UM, IT, IT IS, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH SAID ON THAT. SO HOPEFULLY WE GET, SO STOP NUMBER TWO AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS IN OUR BEACON COUNTY DISTRICT. THIS IS FROM A, UM, A RESIDENT. THIS IS BACK ON BURN MILL. IF I CAN STEP FORWARD. YEP. THIS IS GONNA BE A LITTLE HARDER TO DESCRIBE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. SO IF YOU TURN TO THE SECOND PAGE FIRST, DAVID, HE'S STANDING IN THE, UH, THE DRIVEWAY FOR WHO'S TRAILER PARK FACING OVER, UH, TO HIS LEFT. THIS IS, UH, MR. EUGENE WHITE. MS UH, MS. WHITE HAD THIS CONCERN AND IT'S KIND OF, IT IS NOT AS BAD A ANGLE OR BAD A, A, A APPROACH. BUT YOU CAN SEE, UH, COMING AROUND THE CURVE THERE A LITTLE BIT. AND HE ALSO, UM, HIT AN EMBANKMENT OR, OR, OR I GUESS AN INCLINE. AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THE WORST TIME OF THE YEAR THROUGH THERE IS OUTAGE TIME , WELL NOT PEOPLE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA OR JUST FLYING THROUGH THERE. AND THE SAME THING HAPPENED WHERE THE, THE BUS WAS THERE TO PICK HIS KIDS UP AND, YOU KNOW, FEW CROSSING SLAM ON BRAKES. SO, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SPECIAL IN THIS AREA 'CAUSE I'M SURE THIS HAPPENS ALL OVER THE COUNTY. OBVIOUSLY. BUT, UM, THESE ARE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS I DID WANNA BRING TO THE BOARD. UM, YOU KNOW, TO GET A LOOK, GET IT LOOKED AT IT. I MEAN, SIGNS, SIGNS WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE CONSCIOUS OF SIGNS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN NEVER STOP A, A SIGN WILL NEVER STOP A SPEEDER OBVIOUSLY. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE PUTTING SOMETHING IN PLACE IS BETTER THAN HAVING NOTHING IN PLACE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO, BUT MAYBE WE CAN GET WITH MR. CARROLL AND GET HIM TO DO A STUDY OF THERE ON BOTH OF THE SITES AND 'CAUSE THAT FIRST ONE THAT IS A BAD PLACE. OH, YES SIR. I KNOW I GO BY THERE ONCE IN A WHILE. YES, SIR. AND IT'D BE LIKE YOU SAID, IT WOULD BE SAD IF A BUS LOAD OF KIDS GOT HIT WITH A TRACTOR TRAILER THERE. YES SIR. SO MAYBE WE CAN GET HIM TO DO A STUDY IF NOTHING ELSE, MAYBE WE CAN PERSUADE HIM IN THE, PUTTING THE SIGN ON THE ROAD. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY THAT THE SCHOOL PICK UP A FEW, THREE SIGNS HERE, UH, IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THAT'D BE NICE. YEAH, THERE'S SEVERAL PLACES IN THE COUNTY THAT IT DOES NEED IT, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. YES SIR. YES SIR. AND I, I, I CAN GO AHEAD AND FORWARD IT TO HIM TO TAKE THE, I'LL TAKE THE ACTION ON THAT TO FORWARD IT TO MR. CARROLL. I'LL, I'LL, UH, CC YOU AND MR. UH, MR. WADE AS WELL SO THAT WAY EVERYBODY HAS, YOU KNOW, YOU ON. SO. ALRIGHT. THANKS A LOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT? [00:45:01] NO OTHER BUSINESS TO COME FORWARD. OKAY. LOOKING AT SEPTEMBER THE 11TH FOR OUR NEXT MEETING. IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? THINK SO. I'M GLAD. OKAY. YEAH. AND IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, IF WE CAN HAVE THAT MAGIC WORD, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN SECOND. OKAY. EVERYBODY THAT'S IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AND YOUR AYES HAVE IT. AND THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS FOR COMING TONIGHT AS WELL AS THE BOARD MEMBERS. AND MAYBE IF WE CAN LEARN A WHOLE LOT FROM THIS, I HOPE WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE ON THIS BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS. YES SIR. AUGUST THE 19TH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.