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MAKE IT THIS GREEN,

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SO WHEN IT'S GREEN RUNNING BY.

[Highway Transportation Safety Commission on September 11, 2024.]

OKAY.

IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING THE ORDER AND HAVE A ROLL CALL.

OKAY.

MR. C**K HERE.

MR. LANE? HERE.

MR. KATHLEEN? HERE.

MR. THOMAS.

MR. JONES HERE.

AND SHERIFF TURNER.

OKAY.

FRANCIS, DO YOU WANT TO START OFF WITH THEM SO THEY CAN, WON'T HAVE TO STAY THE WHOLE TIME? SURE.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSION MEMBERS AND ALL OTHERS IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.

WE HAVE WITH US AGAIN, MR. PAUL, BELLA BRADY, AND MS. TAMLA, UM, IN THERE WITH THE CAVALIER SOLAR PROJECT, AND THEY'RE HERE TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

THANKS FOR HAVING US, FIRST OF ALL.

SO I'LL JUST KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH SOME GENERAL PROGRESS UPDATES FOR THE, FOR THE PROJECT AT LARGE, AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO SOME SPECIFICS REGARDING ROAD USAGE, REPAIRS, ET CETERA.

SO RIGHT NOW, DELIVERIES, UH, ACROSS THE PROJECT ARE AT 99% COMPLETE, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS.

UH, HOPEFULLY FOR YOU GUYS.

YOU'LL SEE, OBVIOUSLY TRUCK TRAFFIC IS BACKED WAY DOWN.

REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT'S REMAINS IS JUST MISCELLANEOUS SPARE PARTS.

UH, ANY, UH, AS WE WORK THROUGH OUR COMMISSIONING STARTUP PROCEDURES, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE FIND PIECES AND COMPONENTS THAT ARE BROKEN, MISSING, ET CETERA, THEN WE'LL HAVE SPARE PARTS.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S NO SCHEDULED DELIVERIES REMAINING FOR THE PROJECT, UH, WHICH IS GOOD.

UH, CIVIL WORK IS ALSO NEARING COMPLETION.

IT'S RIGHT AROUND 99%.

AS WE, AS I MENTIONED, OUTSIDE, THE ONLY CIVIL WORK THAT REMAINS IS LANDSCAPING, UH, UH, AND, UH, RECLAIMING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AND STORM WATER PROTECTION TO CLOSE OUT OUR PERMITS.

SO YOU'LL SEE IN OCTOBER, UH, OUR SECOND ROUND OF PLANTINGS WILL TAKE PLACE ALONG THE ROADWAYS THERE.

UH, AS OUR LANDSCAPER COMES BACK, FINGERS CROSSED THAT THIS SECOND ROUND OF PLANTINGS, UH, HOLDS AND THAT ALL OF OUR PLANTS SURVIVE THROUGH THE YEAR OTHER THAN CIVIL, UH, DELIVERIES.

THE OTHER ITEM WILL BE MECHANICALLY, WE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT MECHANICALLY COMPLETE.

SO TO ANSWER A QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED EARLIER, WE HAVE INSTALLED A HUNDRED PERCENT OF ALL THE PANELS ON SITE.

ALL RACKING IS COMPLETE, ALL PILES ARE COMPLETE.

AGAIN, WE ARE SIMPLY AT THE TESTING AND COMMISSIONING PHASE OF THE PROJECT AT THIS POINT, UH, KIND OF OVER THE NEXT 30 TO 60 DAYS.

UH, WE PLAN TO HIT COD ON THE PROJECT END OF OCTOBER.

SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR FINISH LINE, IF YOU WILL, UH, FOR, FOR CONSTRUCTION ON, ON CAVALIER SOLAR IS END OF OCTOBER.

OKAY.

UH, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR KIND OF THE, THE ROADWAYS IS RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOWN TO ROUGHLY 60, 65 PEOPLE PER DAY.

THAT WILL CONTINUE TO, TO RAMP DOWN AS WE GET CLOSER TOWARDS OCTOBER, AND THEN END, END OF OCTOBER, I WOULD SAY BY THE END OF OCTOBER, WE'LL HAVE LESS THAN 25, 30 PEOPLE ON SITE AT THAT POINT.

AND THEN AGAIN, I MENTIONED FULL PLANT, COD END OF OCTOBER.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THEN KIND OF TRANSITIONING IN, WELL, I'LL ACTUALLY, I'LL PAUSE THERE FOR QUESTIONS BEFORE I GET INTO, UH, SOME OF THE, THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

ANY, ANY QUESTIONS AS FAR AS GENERAL PROGRESS? OKAY.

SO THREE KIND OF TOPICS HERE.

I WANTED TO FIRST TOUCH BASE ON JUST TRAFFIC CONTROL IN GENERAL.

UM, I WAS HOPING TO SEE, I, I HAVEN'T MET MAJOR DEAVER IN PERSON, BUT A BIG SHOUT OUT TO MAJOR DEAVER THROUGH MAJOR DEAVER AND SHERIFF TURNER.

WE'D BE ABLE TO, TO HIRE OFF DUTY, UH, DEPUTIES TO PATROL THE AREA AS THAT OPERATION STARTED, I GUESS, HERE IN THE LAST 30 DAYS OR SO.

UM, WE THINK IT'S BEEN A BIG HELP.

WE'VE SEEN THEM OUT THERE.

THEY'RE TYPICALLY ON, ON SITE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 6:00 AM TO 9:00 AM AND THEN 3:00 PM TO 6:00 PM.

SO AGAIN, WHEN FOLKS ARE ARRIVING TO SITE, WHEN FOLKS ARE LEAVING THE SITE, UH, OFF-DUTY OFFICERS ARE POSTED UP.

TYPICALLY THEY'RE ON WHITE MARSH AND BEACHLAND, BUT WE'VE GIVEN THEM, WE'VE KIND OF GIVEN THEM RAIN TO PATROL AS THEY SEE FIT AND WHERE THEY SEE TRAFFIC HEAVY OR LIGHT, UH, BUT TYPICALLY THEY HANG OUT AT THAT INTERSECTION OR IN THAT AREA.

UH, AND AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S CALM TRAFFIC DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY AND HAS BEEN A GOOD PRESENCE.

HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD OR SEEN SOME TYPE OF FEEDBACK YOURSELVES? I HADN'T HEARD ANY FEEDBACK.

I KNEW IT WAS IN PROGRESS, BUT I FIGURED I COULD FIND THERE TONIGHT HOW IT WAS WORKING.

YEP.

BUT I KNOW IT, IT NEEDED SOMETHING , WE FEEL LIKE IT'S WORKING.

WE'VE SEEN TRAFFIC SEEMS TO BE CALMER, UH, BOTH PROJECT AND, UH, COUNTY AND RELATED.

SO, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT WORKS OUT WELL.

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WE WILL CONTINUE THAT AND WE PLAN TO KEEP, UH, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON BOARD THROUGH COD.

SO THROUGH THE VERY END, WE PLAN TO KEEP, KEEP THOSE GUYS AROUND, OBVIOUSLY BASED ON THEIR BANDWIDTH AND THEIR AVAILABILITY TO RIGHT.

COME ONTO THE PROJECT.

AND WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THROUGH, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THROUGH THE END OF Y'ALL'S PERIOD, STANDOUT COR? CORRECT.

THEY'D BE WORKING END OF OCTOBER.

SO THROUGH, UH, COMMERCIAL OPERATION THROUGH THROUGH CONSTRUCTION, ESSENTIALLY.

RIGHT.

WHICH IS THE END OF OCTOBER, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING SO FAR AS OFF THE HIGHWAY.

UH, THEY CHECKING YOUR EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY COME IN FOR BADGES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THEY ARE NOT.

THEY ARE NOT.

SO, SO WHAT YOU MADE A REFERENCE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THE LAST TIME, I THINK I GAVE A PRESENTATION HERE.

WE DO HAVE A BADGING SYSTEM NOW IN PLACE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES ON SITE.

SO WHEN THEY GO THROUGH ORIENTATION, THEY, WE VERIFY DRIVER'S LICENSE, UH, WE, WE ISSUE THEM A BADGE, AND THEN WE ARE DOING CHECKS IN THE PARKING LOTS.

NOW WE TRY TO DO A PRO, UH, SPORADICALLY.

UH, BUT TYPICALLY WE GET THERE THREE OR FOUR TIMES A WEEK.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT DOING SPOT CHECKS TO MAKE SURE THAT TAGS DO MATCH DRIVER'S LICENSE ON RECORDS TO LICENSE PLATES, ET CETERA.

UM, THUS FAR SINCE WE'VE INITIATED THAT, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO TURN ANYBODY AWAY.

SO AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE THAT WORD HAS GOTTEN OUT VERY QUICKLY TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT, UH, ARE THINKING OR ARE WORKING ON SITE, UH, THAT WE DON'T TOLERATE ANYBODY WITHOUT A DRIVER'S LICENSE OPERATING THE VEHICLE NEAR OUR SITE.

SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY, HAD TO TURN ANYBODY AWAY SINCE THE VERY FIRST WEEK WE TURNED AWAY TWO CARS AND I, SINCE THEN, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES.

UM, SO THEY FOUND OUT THAT YOU MEANT BUSINESS? YES.

I I, I THINK BETWEEN THAT AND THE SHERIFF'S PARKED OUTSIDE THE GATE HAS HELPED, UH, TREMENDOUSLY.

RIGHT.

SO, UM, YEAH.

WELL THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

YES.

GLAD TO HEAR IT.

UH, NEXT THING UP, I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE ITEMS THAT WE COMPLETED AS FAR AS ROAD REPAIRS, AND THEN I'LL TALK ABOUT KIND OF NEXT STEPS.

UH, SO RECENTLY, UH, ALL CULVERTS AND DITCHES ALONG BELLEVUE WERE CLEANED OUT AND STRAW AND SEEDED AS, UH, AS NEEDED.

UH, SHOULDER STONE WAS THEN APPLIED TO BOTH SIDES OF BELLEVUE, UH, FROM WHITE MARSH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MULLET DRIVE.

UH, AND THAT BASICALLY PER VIDOS DIRECTION, THAT WAS TO, UH, ANY, ANY SHOULDER THAT WAS EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN TWO INCHES BELOW THE SURFACE.

WE APPLIED SHOULDER STONE, WHICH ENDED UP BEING 90% OF, OF BELLEVUE.

WE APPLIED SHOULDER STONE TO, UM, AND THEN POTHOLES HAVE ALSO BEEN REMEDIATED ALONG THERE.

UH, AND THEN AGAIN AT THE DIRECTION OF VDI CULVERTS WERE EXPOSED AND CLEANED AT THE INTERSECTION OF WHITE MARSH AND BEACHLAND.

SO THAT MAJOR INTERSECTION THERE AT THE, AT THE PROJECT HAS BEEN CLEANED.

SO LEADING INTO NEXT STEPS, WE CLEANED THOSE INTERSECTIONS IN ORDER FOR V DT TO COME OUT AND DO AN INSPECTION OF THAT INTERSECTION, PROVIDE US SOME DIRECTION, THOSE NEXT STEPS.

THEY HAVE BEEN OUT, THEY'VE INSPECTED THE, THE, THE, UH, INTERSECTIONS.

UM, THEY'VE GIVEN US SOME FEEDBACK.

WE ACTUALLY MET WITH THEM ON A CALL, UM, WITH SOME COUNTY MEMBERS HERE LAST WEEK.

UH, AND THEY'VE GIVEN US KIND OF THE GREEN LIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND START THE NEXT PAGE, WHICH WILL BE THE RESURFACING OF BELAND FROM WHITE MARTIAN BEACHLAND, ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH SURREY INTO ISLE OF WHITE TO BELAND AND BURS BAY.

SO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, SO, ALRIGHT, WHEN YOU SAY RESURFACING YEP.

ON THAT, ON 6 26 WHEN YOU GET OVER INTO HALLOW WHITE YES.

JUST PAST JEFFREY SUE'S RESIDENCE.

YEP.

UP.

YES SIR.

ARE Y'ALL PLANNING ON DOING ANYTHING ON THAT? 'CAUSE IT TORE THE FRONT END OF MY TRUCK UP THE OTHER WEEK.

LEMME MAKE SURE I'M, I'M FOLLOWING YOU.

SO YOU'RE 6 26.

YOU, UH, AFTER YOU GO OVER THE SIR AND YOU KNOW WHERE JEFFREY SUITED LIVES? MM-HMM, .

ALRIGHT.

GO PAST, PAST HIS DRIVEWAY AND WHEN YOU GOING UP TOP OF THE HILL AND MAKING A LEFT TURN THERE.

YES.

THAT WILL BE, THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE PLAN TO RESURFACE.

THAT IS A, A VERY BUMPY I INTERESTING CORNER.

I MET THREE VEHICLES ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON.

WIFE WAS WITH ME, AND IT FELT LIKE WE HAD DONE FELL IN THE RIVER SOMEWHERE OR ANOTHER.

THE HOLES WERE SO BAD AND BUMPING.

AND I KNOW WHAT THE FRONT END OF MY TRUCK LOOKS LIKE NOW.

YEAH.

AND I THINK WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME QUESTIONS OF WHY ARE WE RESURFACING BEACHLAND? UH, RIGHT.

I I THINK YOU CAN ATTEST THAT REALLY IS THE, WHAT WE DEEM AS THE WORST ROAD IN THE AREA.

MOST POTHOLES, WE LOOKED AT DOING POTHOLE REPAIR AND SHOULDER STONE AGAIN, ON THAT ROAD.

IT SIMPLY DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.

WE, WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS MORE OF, OF PUTTING A BANDAID ON IT AND IT WOULDN'T LAST.

RIGHT.

AND SO REALLY WE CAME TO THE DECISION, THE ONLY ULTIMATE DECISION WAS TO JUST RESURFACE THE WHOLE THING.

SO WHEN YOU SAY RESURFACE, NOW WHAT ARE YOU GONNA PUT DOWN? THEY'RE GONNA MILL DOWN, UH, THE CURRENT SURFACE AND THEY WILL COME IN AND I, I DIDN'T BRING THE, UH, THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT THEY HAVE, UM, BUT IT WAS A, IT WAS A VDOT APPROVED PROCESS, BUT ESSENTIALLY THEY'LL MILL IT DOWN AND THEN COME BACK AND YOU COME BACK AND RE A NEW TOP COAT ON TOP OF IT.

YES, SIR.

UH, RIGHT NOW BEACHLAND AVERAGES BETWEEN

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15 FEET AND 16 FEET WIDE, WHICH IS PRETTY NARROW FOR A TWO LANE ROAD.

AGAIN, BASED ON VDOT DIRECTION, THE, THE PLAN WILL BE TO KEEP IT AT OR INCREASE IT RATHER TO 17 FEET WIDE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE, AGAIN FROM BURS BAY AND BELAND TO WHITE MARSH AND BEACHLAND.

SO THAT WILL TAKE YOU THE PROBLEM IN THE CARRIER OF .

THERE'S STILL LOT TRAVELS IN THE COUNTY, SO I ALMOST SAY IT'LL CURE THE PROBLEM, BUT WE, WE, WE CERTAINLY THINK THAT IT'LL BE A MUCH BETTER SURFACE, UH, AND MUCH SAFER FOR RESIDENTS.

YES SIR.

I HOPE SO.

SO THAT, THAT PLAN, UH, AGAIN, WE JUST GOT THE GREEN LIGHT LAST WEEK FROM VDI.

WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR VENDORS NOW TO FIGURE OUT THE SCHEDULE.

UH, BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WORK WOULD START WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

UH, OUR VENDOR TELLS US IT'S PROBABLY A TWO OR THREE DAY PROCESS.

UM, SO THEY THINK THEY CAN GET IN THERE AND OUT PRETTY QUICK.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE PERMITTING THROUGH VDOT, UM, FOR THE PROJECT.

SO WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD JUST AGAIN IN THE NEXT COMING WEEKS.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S GONNA GO FROM WHITE MARSH ALL THE WAY THROUGH, ALL THE WAY THROUGH SUR INTO IOWA WHITE BURS BAY? YES, SIR.

YES SIR.

OKAY.

AND IT'LL BE BOTH THOSE INTERSECTIONS AS WELL.

I MAY MAKE SURE I INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE BOTH THOSE INTERSECTIONS ARE, ARE PRETTY ROUGH.

SO YEAH, IT'LL ESSENTIALLY GO THROUGH, THROUGH THE INTERSECTION ABOUT 150 YARDS ON EACH SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION.

THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH THOSE INTERSECTIONS.

'CAUSE THEY LOOK KIND OF BAD.

YES.

YES SIR.

THE, THE WHITE MARTIAN BEACH INTERSECTION WILL BE RESURFACED JUST AS A ROAD WILL BE BROUGHT TO THAT 17TH FEET.

VDOT HAS GIVEN US THE, UH, TURNING RADIUS, ET CETERA, THEY, OR LOOKING FOR.

ALRIGHT.

AND SO WE'LL MATCH THEIR SPECIFICATIONS AND DOWN IN THE BOTTOM THAT WHERE BRITT LIVES, THINK HIS NAME RANDY BRITT, THAT LIVES THERE EVER SINCE Y'ALL STARTED GOING THROUGH THAT WITH HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND ALL THAT ROAD IS LIKE THIS HERE, LIKE A WASHBOARD.

ARE YOU GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH THAT? TRYING TO THINK OF WHERE, I'M NOT SURE IF I KNOW WHERE RIGHT IN THE VERY BOTTOM PART OF 6 26.

YES.

UH, I'D, I'D HAVE TO CHECK THE SPECS TO SEE WHAT, WHAT THEIR EXACT, UH, MEANS AND METHODS FOR RIGHT THERE IS.

UM, BECAUSE IT WAS SMOOTH, BUT IT STILL AIN'T SMOOTH NOW.

BUT I, I CAN WE MAKE SURE TO COORDINATE ON THE WEEKLY CALL, UM, WITH MS. BAILEY AND TEAMS SO THAT WE HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE CORRECT LOCATIONS OF WHERE THE RESURFACING IS GOING TO BE? YEAH.

SO THAT THEY HAVE THAT.

YEAH, CERTAINLY.

WE, WE WANNA RESURFACE AGAIN.

WE WILL RESURFACE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF, OF THAT ROAD.

BUT AS FAR AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT THE WATCH BOARD EFFECT OR IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL WORK REQUIRED THERE.

YES SIR.

WE CAN.

IT'S KIND OF, IT'S A WET AREA.

NO.

YEAH.

THAT ROAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEADING NORTH.

YOU'VE GOT THE KIND OF THE, UH, WETLANDS ON THE RIGHT THERE, RIGHT? YES SIR.

MM-HMM, .

I DO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

OH, AM I USING THE MIC PROPERLY? SPEAKING TOO.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE.

YEAH, I GONNA SEE IF I GOT ANY OTHER POINTS HERE.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE, MR. OH, AB ABSOLUTELY.

AND I THINK THAT ACTUALLY COVERS KIND OF YEAH.

THAT WHEN YOU RESURFACE, UM, BESLAND, THE BESLAND ROAD AND, AND THINGS, IS IT GONNA BE CLOSED DURING? GREAT QUESTION.

NO.

UH, OUR VENDOR IS SAID THEY CAN DO ONE LANE AT A TIME.

OKAY.

IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY LANES ON IT, BUT ONE SIDE AT A TIME.

RIGHT.

SO THEY'LL DO, UH, ONE HALF, ONE HALF AND THEN MOVE INTO THE OTHER HALF.

MAY I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION? NO ROAD CLOSURES PLAN THAT'S IN, YOU KNOW, PAPERWORK THAT YOU'VE GOT.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

I I READ IT OVER THE WEEKEND AND I FORGOT.

MM-HMM.

MOST OF IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

DID DID YOU HAVE A, A OKAY.

YEP.

OKAY.

AND MOVING ON.

YEAH, I THINK THAT COVERS, YEAH, THE OTHER THING I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE WILL, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NOT A ROAD CLOSURE, WE WILL UTILIZE BOTH OUR WEBSITE, EMAILING ALL THE, THE LOCAL RESIDENTS, UH, AS WELL AS ANY COUNTY MEMBERS TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHEN I HAVE A DATE ON THE SCHEDULE OF WHEN I'M STARTING.

I'LL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION, UM, ABOUT WHEN THAT PROCESS WILL TAKE PLACE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NONE CONCERNING OH, GOOD POINT.

STAGING AREA.

YES.

YOU MAY HAVE SEEN MOUNT EVO OFF OF HIGHWAY 10 HAS SOMEWHAT DISAPPEARED.

SO THAT HAS BEEN RECLAIMED BROUGHT BACK.

UH, WE WON'T FULLY BE ABLE TO RECLAIM UNTIL WE CLOSE OUT ALL OF OUR, UH, STORM WATER PERMITS, UH, WHICH IS TOWARDS THE END OF THIS YEAR, EARLY NEXT YEAR, WE'LL BE ABLE TO CLOSE THOSE STORM WATER PERMITS.

SO, UH, IT'S BEEN MOSTLY RECLAIMED, BUT THAT RETENTION BASIN WILL STAY UNTIL WE'RE REALLY DONE, DONE WITH OUR PERMITS.

ALRIGHT.

YES.

MOUNT NEBO IS NO MORE, AGAIN, WITH NO MORE SCHEDULED DELIVERIES.

UM, SO YOU'RE NOT PUTTING ANYTHING IN THERE NOW? NO, SIR.

OKAY.

NOPE, IT'LL JUST, WE'LL RETURN THAT TO BACK POP SOIL BACK AND

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RETURN THAT TO ITS EXISTING STATE OR PREVIOUS STATE RATHER.

OKAY.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANY MORE ACCIDENTS? NO, SIR.

NO SIR.

NO SIR.

GOOD.

OKAY.

AND DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ASK HIM WHILE THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT? WE PROBABLY WON'T SEE 'EM, BUT ONE MORE TIME.

I GUESS YOU CAN COME TO A NOVEMBER MEETING.

YES, SIR.

YEP.

SOUNDS GOOD.

YEAH, I CAN COME TO NOVEMBER MEETING AT THAT TIME, HOPEFULLY GIVE YOU A, A FULL WRAP OF ALL THE ROAD ROAD REPAIRS AND GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, PICTURES AND WHATNOT OF, OF HOW THINGS WRAPPED UP.

YES, SIR.

WHITE MARSH.

THAT THAT WILL BE PAID FROM ROUTE 10 TO BEACHLAND.

NO, SIR.

WE WEREN'T PLANNING ON RES ON RESURFACING ALL OF WHITE MARSH THAT ROAD, BECAUSE OF ITS CURRENT STATE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO, AND ACTUALLY WE WERE OUT THERE MARKING POTHOLES EARLIER.

WE'LL JUST, WE WILL ADDRESS THE POTHOLES AND SHOULDERS, UH, KIND OF AS A INDIVIDUAL AREAS ALONG THAT ROAD.

YEAH.

BECAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL PLACES ON WHITE MARSH.

I WAS TELLING YOU AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED COMING IN THERE WITH YOUR HEAVY LOADS OF EQUIPMENT AND ALL, IT WAS BREAKING THAT BLACKTOP UP AND THEN WHETHER IT WAS Y'ALL OR ON THE HOOP, RATHER THAN PUTTING THE BLACKTOP BACK, THEY JUST COME ALONG AND PUT SOME ROCK THERE AND A GUY LOST A MOTORCYCLE IN THAT SAME SPOT.

YES.

AND IT'S NOT GOOD.

SO SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THE EDGES OF WHITE MARSH WHERE IT'S BEEN BROKEN UP AND WE ARE TRYING TO COORDINATE WITH THE VD BEST OF OUR ABILITY THAT THEY HAVE REPAIRED SOME POTHOLES AND, AND OBVIOUSLY WITHOUT, NOT NECESSARILY NOTIFYING US.

RIGHT.

THEY DON'T NEED TO NOTIFY US THAT THEY'RE GONNA REPAIR POTHOLES.

BUT THEY HAVE DONE SOME, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHO PUT THE GRAY ROCK DOWN, BUT IT WAS LIKE NUMBER 57 GRAY ROCK PUT DOWN.

THEY ACTUALLY MADE SOME POTHOLE REPAIRS.

WE, I, I JUST NOTICED THAT ACTUALLY THIS MORNING THEY MADE SOME REPAIRS EARLIER THIS WEEK ON WHITE MARSH, UH, SOME POTHOLE REPAIRS.

SO THEY'RE OUT THERE DOING REPAIRS AS WELL, BUT WE INTEND TO WALK IT WITH THEM.

UH, I'VE ALREADY DRIVEN IT ONCE WITH THEM IN THE LAST 30 DAYS.

UH, BUT ONCE WE FINISH THE RESURFACE ON BEACHLAND PLAN TO, TO DRIVE AGAIN WITH VOT ON WHITE MARSH TO IDENTIFY POTHOLES, SHOULDER REPAIRS, ET CETERA.

BUT AGAIN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT WON'T BE A HUNDRED PERCENT RESURFACE.

IT'LL BE MORE OF JUST WALKING WITH VDOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING INDIVIDUAL DAMAGES.

YOUR SPOTS WHERE IS YES, SIR.

BROKEN UP AND ALL SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH BEACH OR BELLAVIEW, EXCUSE ME.

RIGHT.

YEP.

OKAY.

UH, WHEN YOU DO YOUR DRIVE THROUGH OR WALKTHROUGH, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.

YES SIR.

UH, TWO MILES OFF OF HIGHWAY 10 COMING TOWARD THE PROJECT.

MM-HMM.

.

SO YOU'RE LEAVING ROUTE 10 ON SIX 17 COMING TOWARD THE PROJECT TWO MILES DOWN.

THERE'S A CURB THERE WITH AN OLD, UH, GIANT CEDAR TREE SITTING RIGHT THERE IN THE CURB.

THERE IS A OLD CULVERT THAT RUNS UNDER THE ROAD THERE.

AND IF YOU WERE TO GET OUTTA YOUR VEHICLE AND LOOK AT THE ROAD THERE, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A SINK DEVELOPING THERE AT THE, WHERE THE CULVERT IS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN VISUALIZE IN MY HEAD, BUT I'LL DRIVE THAT TOMORROW MORNING AND TAKE A LOOK.

YEAH.

TWO MILES IN FROM 10, YOU'RE SAYING? CORRECT.

OKAY.

GOING AROUND THAT CURVE.

YES SIR.

WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT AND ADD THAT TO THE, IF THERE'S ANY, AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANY INDIVIDUAL REPAIRS FOR WHITE MARSH NEEDED, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THAT TAKES CARE OF Y'ALL NOW.

SO YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

YOU CERTAINLY WELCOME.

THANK YOU FOR COMING AND UPDATING US.

ABSOLUTELY.

LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN NOVEMBER.

YES, THANK YOU.

HAS EVERYBODY READ THEIR PACKET FROM THE LAST MEETING? I HAVE, YES SIR.

DO WE NEED TAKE A FEW MINUTES? SO YOU I TO GO OVER ANY, OR DO YOU THINK YOU READ ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING LOOKS ALRIGHT? YEAH, I JUST FINISHED READING IT BEFORE I LEFT HOME.

UH, IF ALL WILLING, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE, UH, MINUTES BE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTD.

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SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

AYES HAVE IT.

ALRIGHT, WE CAN MOVE RIGHT INTO THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS THAT WE HAD FROM THE LAST MEETING.

AND THAT STARTS OUT WITH WHITE MARSH, I THINK FRANCIS, IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY.

WHAT WOULD SHE START WITH? UM, E START WITH E YES SIR.

WITH HOLLY BUSH? YES.

OKAY.

UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, FOLLOWING THE JUNE MEETING, UM, VDOT FORWARDED A DOCUMENT DATED, UM, JULY THE 24TH, UM, 2024, REFERENCING THE INTERSECTION, UM, SIGN REVIEW THERE AT SIX 18, HOLLY BUSH ROAD AND ROUTE 10, COLONIAL TRAIL WEST.

UM, THE INITIAL CONCERN CAME UP, UM, WITH MR. ELLIOT WHEN HE WAS HERE REGARDING, UM, SITE DISTANCE AT THE INTERSECTION AND THE, UM, PLACEMENT OF THE STOP SIGN.

UM, VDOT WENT OUT AND DID A STUDY OF THE AREA AND I'LL REVIEW THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

AND THAT IS ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE DOCUMENT, IT SAYS, BASED ON THE REVIEW, THE FOLLOWING IS RECOMMENDED.

IT SAYS, RECOMMENDED TO INSTALL ADVANCED WARNING.

UM, STOP, STOP AHEAD.

SIGNAGE WITH YELLOW REFLECTIVE STRIPS ON THE NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND APPROACHES ON ROUTE SIX 18.

RELOCATE THE STOP BAR, UM, PAVEMENT MARKINGS, MOVE THEM CLOSER TO ROUTE 10.

UM, INSTALL 36 BY 36 STOP SIGNS WITH RED REFLECTIVE STRIPS ON BOTH NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND.

ROUTE SIX 18 AND INSTALL ADVANCED WARNING WATCH FOR TURNING VEHICLE SIGNAGE EASTBOUND AND WESTBOUND ON ROUTE 10.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF, IS THAT CORRECT? I, I BELIEVE SO.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

YES, SIR.

THE NEXT ITEM, UM, I WILL ADDRESS IS G UM, BACON'S CASTLE TRAIL.

IF YOU WILL NOTICE IN YOUR PACKAGES, UM, BEHIND THE FIRST SET OF DOCUMENTS, YOU'LL SEE UM, THREE IMAGES, UM, EVIDENCE AND THAT THEY'VE PLACED THE NO THROUGH TRUCK SIGNS.

ONE HAS BEEN PLACED BETWEEN BACON'S CASTLE STORE AND BACON'S CASTLE BAPTIST CHURCH.

ANOTHER HAS BEEN PLACED AT THE INTERSECTION OF BACON'S CASTLE TRAIL AND HOG ISLAND ROAD.

AND THE THIRD SIGN HAS BEEN PLACED AT BURNT MILL ROAD AND BACONS CASTLE AND HOG ISLAND ROAD LEADING TO BACONS CASTLE TRAIL.

ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK THE SIGNS LOOK GOOD.

I'M GLAD TO SEE 'EM.

THERE'S NO REASON THAT PEOPLE CAN'T SEE THEM.

EXACTLY.

YES SIR.

AND IT'S AS PLAIN AS ANYTHING.

NO.

THROUGH TRUCKS.

YES SIR.

NOW WHETHER THEY WORK OR NOT, BUSY SEEN .

YES SIR.

YEAH, IT LOOKS GOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK IT'S A WHOLE LOT FOR THAT.

ALRIGHT.

AND ON THE VERY LAST SHEET OF MAYBE THE PACKET, THE, THE EXTRA, UM, ATTACHMENTS THAT I GAVE YOU, YOU'LL SEE, UM, THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE TO THE HOME ON WHITE MARSH ROAD WHERE THE RESIDENT WAS PLACING THE OBJECTS.

AND THAT WAS TAKEN THIS MORNING AT 11:09 AM UM, LEMME SEE, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AT THIS POINT, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THE SHERIFF HAS REACHED OUT OR SPOKE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AS OF THIS MORNING.

MS. BILLY? YES, SIR.

UH, I PASSED THERE, UH, EARLIER TODAY AND A CHANGE HAD BEEN MADE, UH, THE, UH, PILING THAT YOU NORMALLY HAVE RIGHT IN THE, UH, RIGHT OF WAY.

MM-HMM.

HAD BEEN

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REMOVED AND RECONSTRUCTED FURTHER INSIDE THE DRIVEWAY.

SO IT IS NOW ON THE YARD SIDE OF THE DITCH.

HOWEVER, BECAUSE SHE KEEPS STILL KEEPING IT ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY, UH, JUST AS I WAS LEAVING FOR SMITHFIELD TODAY, A, UH, HOME DELIVERY TRUCK, WAS THERE A BOX TRUCK? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DROPPING OFF, BUT THE HOME DELIVERY TRUCK HAD TO PARK ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WITH THE FLASHERS BECAUSE THOSE LITTLE DECORATIVE THINGS ARE STILL BLOCKING ENTRY INTO THE DRIVEWAY.

SO, AND SHE, SHE ALSO STILL HAD STUFF ON THE HIGHWAY SIDE OF THE DITCH LINE? YES, SHE HAD THAT THE OTHER WEEK WHEN I WENT BY THERE.

AND YOU SAW IT AGAIN TODAY AND THERE'S A PICTURE OF IT HERE.

YES, SIR.

YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S NOW BACK FURTHER INTO THE DRIVEWAY, BUT SHE WON'T MOVE 'EM FOR VEHICLES THAT'S COMING.

SO NOW YOU STILL HAVE THE ISSUE OF, UH, VEHICLES PARKING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WHEN IT COME TO THAT PARTICULAR RESIDENT? YES.

LUCKILY RIGHT NOW THE SOLAR PROJECT IS WINDING DOWN SO WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH TRAFFIC, BUT I PERSONALLY HAD TO ENCOUNTER A BOX TRUCK PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD UNLOADING TODAY WITH FLASHES ON.

MAYBE IF WE CAN'T GET IT NO OTHER WAY, MAYBE WE CAN GET SOMETHING WORKED OUT WITH MR. CARROLL TO PUT SOME NO PARKING SIGNS UP AND DOWN THROUGH THERE .

AND THEN YOU CAN, SHERIFF WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WHEN HE CATCHES THEM.

HE CAN WRITE 'EM A TICKET.

UM, I'LL SHARE IT WITH HIM AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT VITA I RECOMMENDS OR IF THEY'LL MAYBE GIVE IT A SHOT AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN, UM, DO WITH IT.

BECAUSE WHEN THEY, THEY PARK A BIG TRUCK LIKE MR. LANE'S TALKING ABOUT, NOW WHEN THEY PARK THAT ON THE ROAD, IT TOOK UP THREE FOURS OF THAT HIGHWAY.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT THAT DOES WHEN SOMEBODY'S GOTTA GO BY THERE WITH SOMETHING LARGE.

YES.

AND FARMERS IS GOING BE OUT THERE PRETTY SOON WITH PICKING PEANUTS AND ALL UP AND DOWN THROUGH THERE.

AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, 'CAUSE I, WE PLAYED AROUND FOR THIS NOW FOR TWO YEARS AND WE HAD ABSOLUTELY GOT NOTHING DONE.

THE SHERIFF SAYS THAT HE CONTACTED THE LANDOWNER AND HE CONTACTED HER.

I CAN'T, LIKE I WAS ADDRESSING TO YOU THIS MORNING, FRANCIS, I CAN'T BELIEVE THE LADY IS THAT BAD.

SHE'S, I JUST DON'T THINK SHE'S BEEN ABSOLUTELY TOLD THAT SHE CANNOT DO THAT.

YES.

AND TO ME, THE NEXT ALTERNATIVE IS TO CONTACT MR. CARROLL AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME NEW PARKING SIGNS PUT ON THE HIGHWAY THROUGH THERE THAT THEN OPENS UP TO SOMEBODY GETTING A TICKET.

AND I DON'T THINK HOME DELIVERIES IS GONNA STOP LEFT AND TAKE A CHANCE OF GETTING A TICKET.

AND IT MIGHT, BUT I GOT MY DOUBT RIGHT.

YES, SIR.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE IS.

WE HAVE TRIED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT I CAN THINK OF, BUT WELL, UH, SOME MORE, THE BOARD MEMBERS MIGHT COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE.

MR. COHO, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS? I I THINK I ASKED IN THE FIRST MEETING THAT I ATTENDED, UM, THIS YEAR, DID, DO WE KNOW IF SHERIFF TURNER ACTUALLY WROTE A CERTIFIED LETTER TO THEM OR SOMEBODY? I DON'T THINK SO.

WELL THEN I THINK MAYBE THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

A CERTIFIED LETTER FROM THE SHERIFF TO THE LANDOWNER AND THE RENTER AND COPY YOU MR. COPY AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE A COPY OF EXACTLY.

UM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO THAT, I'M NOT SAYING WHEN NOT CUTTING YOU OFF, BUT WHEN YOU DO THAT, THEY'VE GOT TO SIGN FOR THAT LOAN.

EXACTLY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THEN YOU WILL KNOW FOR SURE EXACTLY WHETHER THEY RECEIVED IT OR NOT.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT SAYS.

AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING SHERIFF ATTORNEY NOT GONNA SPEAK TO THEM.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT AT LEAST IT'S VERY WELL DOCUMENTED AND THEY SIGNED FOR THE LETTER, UM, EXPLAINING THE ISSUE AND HOW TO CORRECT.

WELL, THEY NEED TO CORRECT THE ISSUE, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT ASSIGNED FOR IT.

RIGHT.

UM, THAT I'VE HAD SEVERAL, SEVERAL OF THE, UH, PEOPLE IN THE AREA HAS COMPLAINED TO ME ABOUT, UH, VEHICLES PASSING AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION AND HAVING, UH, THIS, UM, VEHICLES PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SO,

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UM, I'M NOT TRYING TO HARASS ANYONE, BUT IT IS, IT'S AN ISSUE.

IT'S A BAD ONE BECAUSE SHE'S NOT PUTTING THEM IN THE SAME SPOT EVERY DAY.

SHE WORKS THAT JUST LIKE YOU WORKING A JOB, .

THIS IS TRUE A PUZZLE.

YEP.

SIR.

SIR, I, I THINK THE DEPUTY WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.

UM, DO WE HAVE AN ACTUAL ADDRESS FOR THAT LOCATION? YES, YOU HAVE THAT MR. LANE? I DON'T HAVE, HE LIVES NOT TOO FAR FROM IT.

YEAH, IT, IT'S SIX AND YOU DIDN'T RIGHT.

I, I THINK I CAN RECALL IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO, UH, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WILL, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ASK MR. HARDY IF HE WOULD COME FORTH TO KINDA EXPRESS TO YOU, UM, HIS EXCITEMENT ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED AT, ON ROUTE 10.

AND HE ALSO HAS SOME OTHER NEW CONCERNS WHICH WILL FALL UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

BUT WHILE HE'S AT THE PODIUM, IF YOU WOULD ALLOW HIM TO MAKE HIS PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

YES, PLEASE.

CHAIR BOARD MEMBERS, THANKS A LOT FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME AND SPEAK.

SO IF YOU ALLOW ME, I'D LIKE TO REVERSE THAT BECAUSE I LEARNED YOU START WITH THE BAD NEWS ALWAYS IN ON A GOOD NOTE.

YEAH.

SO NOT, NOT IT'S BAD NEWS, BUT, YOU KNOW.

ALRIGHT, SO YOU ALL HAVE A PACKET.

THANK IT WAS MS. BAILEY FOR, UH, GETTING THAT DONE.

SO LET'S START WITH, UH, THE PICTURES AT BAKER CASTLE TRAIL AND UH, AND ROUTE 10, WHICH IS, UH, CHARLES CYPRESS, UH, RESIDENCE.

THAT'LL BE THESE PICTURES HERE, THE QUAD PICTURES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THE, UH, THE ROAD IMPROVEMENT, UH, TOOK PLACE.

UH, THERE'S IS NOW COMPLETED.

IT LOOKS WONDERFUL, BY THE WAY.

SO OF COURSE THEY, UH, TOOK A PORTION OF HIS LAND.

AND THIS PICTURE HERE IS PROBABLY, IF I CAN, IF I CAN APPROACH THIS ONE'S PROBABLY WORTH THE MOST THOUSANDS OF VERDICT.

THAT'S HOW GETS WE HAVE THAT PICTURE.

YEAH, I HAVE SOME.

I DON'T THINK SO.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT ONE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, IT CAN BECOME A DETRIMENT TO, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY 'CAUSE THAT WATER CAN'T CROSS THE ROAD.

SO TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY AND THAT IF YOU, IF IF NOBODY IS AWARE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN IT CAME THROUGH, THERE USED TO BE A UNDER A, A, A PIPE UNDER THE ROAD THAT CHANNELED THAT WATER TO THE SETTLING POND BETWEEN BEACON CASTLE STORE AND THE CHURCH, UH, THAT WAS SET THERE.

SO IF SOMEBODY'S, YOU KNOW, INFINITE WISDOM, THEY REMOVE THAT PIPE.

SO THE INTENT IS FOR THE WATER TO RUN DOWN BIG CASTLE TRAIL, WHICH IF YOU KNOW, IS UPHILL.

SO THIS LITTLE THING CALLED GRAVITY, UH, , IT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING WITH THAT.

SO, UM, NOW AGAIN, KUDOS TO MR. CURL.

UM, I REACHED OUT TO HIM, UM, WHEN THIS, WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AND HE ACTUALLY MINUTE WENT AND MET WITH MR. CYPRESS.

UM, AND THEY HAVE SINCE BEEN OUT AND, UM, UH, I THINK DRAINED THE DITCH AND EVERYTHING.

HIS CONCERN AS RIGHTFULLY SO, AS YOU SEE ON SOME OF THESE PICTURES, THAT HE HAS A BASEMENT IN HIS HOUSE.

AND IF WE GET A, YOU KNOW, A TERRIBLE, UM, YOU KNOW, SPRING STORM OR SOMETHING WHERE IT RAINS, UM, PROFUSELY, UM, HE'S WORRIED ABOUT HIS BASEMENT POTENTIALLY FLOODING.

SO WHILE WHAT WE NORMALLY SEE AT THE ROAD AT ROUTE 10 IN THE, THE INTEREST OF THE TRAIL, THAT'S A DEEP DITCH.

AND, YOU KNOW, SO IT CAN HOLD A GREAT CAPACITY.

HOWEVER, UM, I THINK JUST ME SPEAKING WHAT HE WANTS, WHAT HE'S LOOKING FOR IS MAYBE SOME DITCH WORK ALONG MAKING SCO TRAIL TO DIG THAT DITCH DEEPER AND F IT OUT WHERE THE WATER CAN ACTUALLY RUN THAT WAY.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT'S GOING TO, UM, EMPTY THESE DITCHES HERE AND GET AWAY FROM HIS HOUSE.

SO AGAIN, UM, VDOT, MR. CARROLL, THEY'RE FULLY AWARE OF THE SITUATION.

UH, THEY ADDRESS IT AS THE, UH, AS NEEDED.

BUT I THINK THE PERMANENT FIX, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THE LONG TERM FIX WOULD BE TO ADDRESS THAT, UH, THE THE ENTIRE DITCH LINE GOING PAST THIS PROPERTY, UM, IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH, YOU KNOW, AND ON DOWN THE ROAD THERE, WHICH IS A GREAT THING 'CAUSE THERE'S A FIELD THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, FIELDS NEED WATER KIND.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE A WIN-WIN.

YES.

ALL IT'S VERY TRUE.

.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE NEXT TO, OKAY.

THE PICTURES THAT WITH ALL THE FAGE, SO THERE'S ABOUT FIVE OF 'EM THAT LOOK LIKE THIS.

YEAH.

AND THIS, OKAY.

SO, UH, I WAS APPROACHED BY SEVERAL

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MEMBERS OF THE CONGREGATION OF, UH, MOUNTAIN NEW BAPTIST CHURCH.

SO THIS IS ACROSS THE ROAD, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE CHURCH IS.

THIS IS ACROSS THE ROAD AGAIN, GRAVITY, DOING ITS THING, RUNNING DOWNHILL.

IT'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE ANGLE OF, OF THE, UH, DECLINE, BUT IT'S, IT'S PRETTY STEEP.

SO WHAT HAPPENS, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS NOT A CONCRETE DITCH.

IT'S A REGULAR DITCH.

BUT, UM, AFTER THE FALL OF THE YEAR, UH, RAIN WATER AND, UH, WHAT HAVE YOU, RUSHES ALL THAT FOUL IS DOWN.

SO AT THE, AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT HILL THERE, ONCE UPON A TIME THAT STUFF WOULD, WOULD FLOW ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THAT SETTLING AREA DOWN THERE.

BUT TO MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, A PROPERTY OWNER, UH, WAS INTERESTED IN PERHAPS SELLING THAT LAND ONE DAY.

SO VDOT CAME IN AND PUT A BLOCK THERE.

SO IT'S RIGHT ACROSS, WE PUT A DOUBLE ENTRANCE IS OFF TO THE CHURCH.

IT'S A LITTLE, UH, AREA THERE, UH, IN BETWEEN THE, UH, THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE CHURCH, THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT.

SO IT RUNS RIGHT ACROSS UNDER THE ROAD TO, UM, A MANHOLE THERE THEN TAKES A ANGLE BACK TOWARDS SURY COUNTY DOWN ALONG THAT FENCE LINE SO THAT ALL THIS STUFF IS CLOGGING UP THOSE PIPES.

IT'S PROBABLY LIKE AN 18 INCH PIPE THERE.

I WENT AND LOOKED AT IT FOR MYSELF.

AND SO I WENT LOOKING AT IT, IT WAS ONLY ABOUT, IT WAS A HALF A MOON, ONLY HALF OF THAT PIPE WAS AVAILABLE.

NOW, AGAIN, IN, UM, UH, HIS, UH, DUE DILIGENCE, MR. CAROL ADDRESSED THE ISSUE.

THEY WENT OUT, HE HAD HIS GUYS, UH, CLEAN THE DITCH BANK ON ACROSS THE STREET.

THEY CLEANED THE MANHOLE.

'CAUSE A, IT WAS A, A LOG HAD ACTUALLY WASH DOWN IN THERE ABOUT THIS BIG ROUND.

HOW THAT GUY, I DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, NATURE'S A IS A AMAZING THING.

UM, AND THEY ALSO CLEAN THAT THE, UH, THE PIPE OUT COMPLETELY TO FLUSH ALL THAT STUFF.

AND, AND THAT'S GREAT AND THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, NEEDED TO BE DONE.

HOWEVER, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO NUMBER ONE, THANK VDOT, THANK YOU ALL.

AND, UM, TO ALSO SAY, BUT THAT, THAT IS A, UH, I THINK SOME TYPE OF WORK THAT WE'LL HAVE TO PUT ON A, ON A REGULAR SCHEDULED BASIS, MAYBE AT LEAST, AT LEAST ANNUALLY, IF NOT SEMI-ANNUALLY.

YES, I AGREE WITH YOU.

'CAUSE I DO KNOW MYSELF THAT THE WATER WILL STAND DOWN THERE.

YES, SIR.

AND, AND THAT'S THE NEED PIPE WATER UP HILL THAT YOU GOT SOMETHING PUSHY.

YEP.

SO THE TWO ISSUES WHICH HAVE HAPPENED, NUMBER ONE, THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST THREE ACCIDENTS THAT I KNOW OF HAVE IMPORTANT TO ME IN THAT AREA 'CAUSE OF HYDROPLANING.

AND IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE RIGHT HERE.

RIGHT.

NUMBER TWO, AS YOU KNOW, UH, THE CHURCH FLOODED OUT ONCE REALLY BAD AND ANOTHER TIME KIND OF MILDLY.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY.

WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, EVEN WHEN IT WATER'S STANDING LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S DOING.

IT'S CUMULATING MOSQUITOES.

YES, SIR.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A BAD PROBLEM TOO.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO ANYTHING SHORT OF A COMPLETE REWORK WHERE THEY JUST GO AND PUT A, A BIGGER CULVERT UNDER THE ROAD AND, AND THE WASHOUT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY A MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT, WE CAN KIND OF CANCEL THAT.

BUT IT, WE WILL, WE WILL TAKE, UH, CONTINUOUS MAINTENANCE.

I KNOW MS. BAILEY SAID WHEN, WHEN THE EACH COLLECTORS COMES, THEY MAKE SURE THAT THEY KEEP IT ON A, UH, UH, IN THE FOREFRONT AND, UM, THEY, THEY STAY AWARE OF IT SO THEY CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSTANTLY REMIND YOU THAT, THAT IT MAY BE SOMETHING NEEDS ATTENTION.

SO, AND, AND TRUST ME, THE CHURCH MEMBERS WILL .

THEY WILL, THEY'LL LET ME AND I CAN'T BLAME EM, DON'T BLAME 'EM AT ALL.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE CAN STAY UP ON YES, SIR.

EVERY YEAR.

YES SIR.

AND HAVE MR. CARROLL TO CHECK INTO IT AND CLEAN IT OUT.

YES SIR.

ALMOST DONE.

OKAY.

SO, UM, THIS NEXT ONE'S UP AT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

AND I DID TALK TO MR. BAILEY EARLIER, THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE.

SO THIS WAS ADDED TO THE CIP FOR THIS YEAR TO BE, UH, TAKEN CARE OF.

SO WE NEED TWO CROSSWALKS.

THIS IS, THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, UM, THE STUDENT PARKING LOT.

I GUESS THE TEACHER'S PARK OVER THERE TOO, BUT STUDENT TEACHER PARKING LOT THAT GOES ACROSS THE STREET TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.

UM, THIS HAS BEEN LIKE THIS SINCE I'VE BEEN IN HIGH, WELL SINCE I WAS THERE.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT STATE CODE SAYS ABOUT A, AN OFFICIAL CROSSWALK, BUT THE SIGNS THAT IS, IS PUT THERE WAS BOUGHT OFF AMAZON.

I WAS TOLD, UH, IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S WITHIN OUR STATE CODE.

SO AGAIN, VDOT, MR. K, THEY ARE AWARE, UM, THIS IS IN PROCESS.

UM, THERE'LL ALSO BE ONE GOING, COMING FROM THE, UM, MIDDLE SCHOOL TO THE HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS CROSS THE ROAD, UH, REGULARLY TO ATTEND CLASSES AND ALSO AFTER, AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.

UM, I WILL SAY THIS HAS BEEN IN THE PIPELINE FOR A WHILE.

I REMEMBER HEARING ABOUT IT.

SO THERE'S ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN DO TO HELP GET THIS, UH, SPED UP.

'CAUSE WE ARE IN THE SCHOOL YEAR NOW.

UM, AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU, WE KNOW WHAT, WE KNOW WHAT THE KIDS DO.

SOME ADULTS TOO.

YEAH.

THEY'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

THEY WALK ACROSS THE ROAD WITH THEIR HAND, WITH THE PHONE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING DOWN LIKE THIS AND AS WELL AS DISTRACT DRIVER.

SO, UM, WELL NOT CUTTING YOU OFF, BUT MM-HMM.

, WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS FIRST PUT DOWN ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD, THERE WAS A CROSSWALK THERE I RECALL.

I RECALL.

AND IT WAS MOCKED.

YEP.

AND I DON'T THINK IT IS NOW SINCE THEY RESURFACED IT.

YEP.

I RECALL YOU'RE RIGHT.

THEY DID AWAY WITH IT.

YEP.

AND NEVER PUT IT BACK.

THAT'S RIGHT.

MR. HARDY, I THINK IN ONE OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT THERE HAS TO BE A SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTED, UH, ALONG THE ROADWAY BEFORE THEY CAN PUT A CROSSWALK.

OKAY.

AND I KNOW I TALKED TO MR. CARROLL ON A COUPLE OTHER ISSUES EARLIER, UH, THIS,

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THIS WEEK.

AND I THINK THEY HAVE SOME MONEY FUNDED SOME SAFETY FUNDS, GRANTS, UM, TO PUT THAT CROSSWALK IN.

BUT I THINK THAT THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOLS HAS TO PUT THAT SIDEWALK, I THINK ON BOTH SIDES.

YEP.

I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

CORRECT.

AND THAT, AND THAT'S THE PART THAT WE TAKE CARE OF IN THE CIP.

IS THAT PART MM-HMM.

IS THAT IN THE CIP? OKAY.

IT IS, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT TO, UM, KNOCK BUT TO BRING ATTENTION TO, UM, MS. BETOS IN THE WORKS.

SO, AND WE KNEW, WE KNEW, WE KNEW IT WAS PART OF CI AS WELL.

RIGHT.

BUT, UH, JUST TO AGAIN, UH, RAISE AWARENESS THAT, UM, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE THIS CAN BE A VOLCANO WAY TO EXPLODE.

AND, UM, AND WE DON'T WANT TO EVEN PLAY WHO'S LIABLE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, AGAIN, IS THERE ANYTHING EITHER BOARD CAN DO TO HELP, UH, MOVE THIS ALONG WITH A, UH, EXPEDITIONS LEAD? THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE, UH, AWESOME.

OKAY.

OKAY.

FINISH UP HERE.

HERE GOES ON A POSITIVE NOTE.

IF YOU ALL RECALL, I THINK THE LAST MEETING I WAS HERE, UH, TALKED ABOUT SOME SCHOOL BUS SAFETY PICTURES HERE.

YEAH.

UM, AND, UH, AGAIN, KUDO, KUDOS, HATS OFF TO MR. CARROLL AND HIS TEAM.

UH, HE, HE GAVE ME AN EMAIL WITHIN A WEEK.

THEY WERE ALREADY DOING THE STUDY.

UM, THEY TOOK IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

LIKE I SAID, EIGHT TO 10 KIDS THERE, DEPENDING ON IF THE OLDER KID DRIVE OR NOT.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE JUST SEEN CARS, AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT IN THIS PICTURE.

YOU CANNOT SEE OVER THAT CREST LIKE WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME.

UM, AGAIN, MAYBE THAT SIGN COULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE FURTHER BACK, MAYBE WHERE THE WHITE FENCE IS OR WHATEVER.

BUT NEVERTHELESS, SOMETHING THAT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING.

AND I, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE, UH, THEIR EFFORTS.

THIS WENT UP ACTUALLY THE, PRIOR TO THE SECOND WEEK OF SCHOOL.

SO THEY, THEY WERE ON IT.

UM, LAST MEETING WAS WHAT JULY.

WHAT? THAT'S COMING HERE WHENEVER.

SO FROM, FROM JUNE.

SO FROM THE LAST MEETING TO NOW.

AND THEY ACTED PRETTY QUICKLY AND WE KNOW, UH, IT SOMETIMES TAKE A LONG TIME.

THAT LOOKS GOOD.

YES, SIR.

YES SIR.

AND, UH, ALSO WENT FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION TOO.

I WAS DRIVING.

SO, UH, THAT MIGHT NOT BEEN A SAFE.

BUT ANYWAY, I, I WANT, I WANNA STOP A PICTURE.

SO THERE, THERE'S A SIGN FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS AND THIS IS ACTUALLY IN A GOOD LOCATION 'CAUSE THIS IS RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET OVER THAT NEXT CREST.

SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY GREAT LOCATION FOR THAT SIGN RIGHT THERE.

BUT NEVERTHELESS, UH, AGAIN, WITHIN THOSE TWO SIGNS, WHICH IT'S LIKE, UH, LESS THAN THREE TENTHS OF A MILE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S ABOUT EIGHT KIDS.

AND UH, THAT'S ABOUT ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE STOPS.

SO YOU CAN IMAGINE, UH, WE ALL KNOW HOW PEOPLE FLY DOWN ROUTE 10.

AND UM, SO THIS IS A GREAT, A GREAT, UH, SAFETY, UM, UH, TOOL ADDED TO HELP PROTECT THE CHILDREN THERE.

SO THANK YOU ALL, UH, MS. BAILEY, THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR THE, FOR YOUR EFFORTS.

AND UH, ALSO ONCE AGAIN, UH, MR. CAR AND HIS TEAM OVERDO THANKS A LOT.

THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US UP ON IT AND TAKING PICTURES AND GIVING THEM TO US.

YES SIR.

BECAUSE WITHOUT SOMEBODY LETTING US KNOW, WE DON'T EVER FIND IT.

SO I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT AND THAT, AND I THINK IT WAS A GOOD JOB DONE IF YOU JUST HAD THAT OTHER SIGN IN THE RIGHT PLACE, .

BUT WE CAN MAKE OUT THAT WITH THAT.

THERE'S NO REASON THAT THEY CAN'T BE SEEN.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

OKAY.

FRANCIS, WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO GET INTO? OKAY.

MOVING RIGHT IN INTO THE NEW BUSINESS AND THAT'S GRANTS AND WE GOING HAVE THE SHERIFF'S, UH, MAYBE DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING WHETHER THE SHERIFF HAS BEEN ABLE TO GET ANY GRANTS OR NOT? I WAS ASKING.

YOU DON'T KNOW.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, SO THEN WE CAN GO INTO THE SCHOOL CONCERNS.

AND OF COURSE MR. HART HAS BEEN ADDRESSED IN RIGHT.

MUCH , , UM, MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSION MEMBERS.

I HAVE ONE NEW SCHOOL CONCERN.

UM, LAST WEEK, UM, MS. THOMAS CALLED WITH THE CONCERN OF WHITE MARSH ROAD, UM, IN THE VICINITY OF MOUNT MOUNT MARIAH A ME CHURCH.

UM, IN THE CURVE THERE, UM, SOME NEW FAMILIES HAVE MOVED IN SO IT'S INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF STOPS THAT THE BUS HAVE TO MAKE IN THAT AREA.

RIGHT.

AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A STUDY TO SEE IF, UM, SCHOOL BUS STOP AHEAD SIGNS CAN BE PLACED ON BOTH ENDS OF THE, OF THE CURVE.

UM, AND I FORWARDED THAT INFORMATION

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TO UM, MR. CARROLL AND HE EMAILED ME BACK.

HE SAID THANK YOU FOR THE EMAIL.

I HAVE SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SECTION TO REVIEW THIS AREA FOR RECOMMENDATIONS ON BUS STOP AHEAD SIGNS AND HE WILL RESPOND BACK AS SOON AS HE KNOWS SOMETHING OR THE STUDY IS COMPLETE.

OKAY.

WHERE WAS THAT EMAIL DATED? UM, HEAD SEPTEMBER THE, THE LAST SEPTEMBER THE 11TH.

OKAY.

OH, TODAY? YES.

GOTCHA.

AND UM, I WILL SAY AGAIN, UM, MR. HARDY MENTIONED THE SCHOOL CROSSWALK PROJECT.

UM, MR. WADE AND I HAD DISCUSSED IT I THINK WEEK BEFORE LAST NOW, AND WE CONTACTED, UM, BOWMAN, WHO'S DOING LIKE THE ENGINEERING PLAN REVIEW FOR THE PROJECT AND CONTACTED MR. WOOD AND MR. STACY WILLIAMS WHO IS OUR PROJECT, UM, PERSON.

AND THEY'RE UM, IN THE MIDST OF KINDA COMING TOGETHER TO REVIEW TO SEE WHAT IT IS, UM, THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE PLANS ARE AS ARE ADDRESSED AND UM, DESIGNED AS THE SCHOOL DESIRES.

AND ONCE ALL OF THAT IS COMPLETE AND THE COST AND ALL OF THAT IS TAKEN CARE OF, THEN THEY CAN BEGIN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SIDEWALKS AND WORK WITH VIDA TO PUT IN THE CROSSWALK PORTION OF THE PROJECT.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE WITH SCHOOL CONCERNS.

ALRIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER? NO SIR.

NO SIR.

NO SIR.

IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYTHING'S GOING GOOD ON THAT.

IF YOU'VE ALREADY GONE THAT FAR.

, LET'S HOPE THAT IT DON'T SLACK UP.

IT'LL KEEP ON GOING.

YES SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU AGAIN FRANCIS FOR THAT.

AND THEN WE CAN GO INTO PUBLIC HIGHWAY, GENERAL CONCERNS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY OF THOSE? I HAD ONE, BUT I ADDRESSED IT TO FRANCIS THIS MORNING ABOUT A STOP SIGN WHERE A TRUCK HAD BEEN OLD BUT SHE WENT UP, CHECKED ON IT AND IT HAS BEEN REPAIRED.

SO I WAS GLAD TO SEE THAT.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, SOMEONE, AND I HATE TO BRING UP SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK POSTED A, IF I CAN FIND IT, I THOUGHT I SAVED.

UM, THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING.

SORRY.

SOMETHING ABOUT A SPEED LIMIT SIGN.

SPEED LIMITS HAVE CHANGED GOING OUT OF THE TOWN OF SURREY.

DOES THAT RING A BELL WITH ANYBODY? I'M SORRY.

I'M I, I'LL FIND IT ON THE ROAD.

10.

AND SHE, THE, THE ISSUE IS THIS NEW 45 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT SIGNS ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN.

DID THEY JUST GO UP TODAY? IT'D BEEN A SURPRISE ON MY WAY HOME FROM WORK AND IT DOESN'T SAY WHICH DIRECTION.

UM, WHERE IS THIS HEADING? INTO TOWN OF SURREY? ON BOTH SIDES.

OKAY.

I WILL, UM, WILL SAY MR. CALHOUN MENTIONED UH, MAYBE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS BACK.

UM, WE HAD DISCUSSED SOME POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVES, UM, TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND ACCIDENTS THERE AT ROUTE 10 AND 31.

RIGHT.

AND I BELIEVE MR. CARROLL AT ONE OF THE BOARD MEETINGS HAD SUGGESTED MAYBE SLOWLY DECREASING THE SPEED LIMIT COMING INTO THE TOWN.

UM, 'CAUSE I THINK OUT IS LIKE 55, THEN DROP IT TO 45 AND THEN AS YOU GET CLOSE TO 35, SO THAT MAY BE WHAT'S OCCURRING OCCURRING IN THAT AREA.

DID THEY PUSH IT? I, I HAVEN'T BEEN THAT WAY IN A LITTLE BIT.

DO YOU KNOW THE 45 COMING FROM DENVER WAY COMING IN THIS AREA ON 31 IS PUT JUST BEYOND ROUTE 10 AND LEANING TOWARDS DEN? YES.

BACK TOWARD DENVER MOVED BUT COMING INTO SIR I, AND IT HAS BEEN MOVED BACK A LITTLE BIT BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL THINK BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S BACK FAR ENOUGH.

IF THE IDEA WAS TRY TO CUT THE SPEED LIMIT DOWN FOR PEOPLE APPROACHING WITH 10 AND 31, THE INTERSECTION WAS YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THEY GOT TO 45 LOOKS TO ME LIKE MIGHT HAVE CLOSE TO IT.

IT, BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL FEELINGS.

RIGHT.

WELL IT SHOULD BE BEYOND TOWARDS .

MY FIRST OPINION, THAT'S WHAT I ASKED MR. AND MEETINGS WELL BEFORE, YOU KNOW, CAN WE PUSH THAT, PUSHED THAT BACK BUT DON'T,

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I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN MOVED.

I THINK IT'S SAME SPOT THAT IT WAS PUT ORIGINALLY.

SORRY .

OKAY.

THAT REPEAT IT HAS NOT BEEN, I DIDN'T THINK IT HAD EITHER BECAUSE I AND COMING INTO TOWN TONIGHT I TOOK NOTICE OF THAT 'CAUSE I THOUGHT MAYBE IT HAD BEEN MOVED BUT IT DIDN'T LOOK TO ME LIKE ANYTHING HAD BEEN DONE.

SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON AND GET MR. CARROLL AND GI ON THAT.

YES SIR.

I NOTICED THEY UM, WHEN I WAS COMING BACK FROM A SITE EARLIER TODAY, THEY WERE DOING SOME WORK, UM, RIGHT THERE JUST BEYOND THAT INTERSECTION.

SO THEY MAY HAVE INSTALLED SOME NEW SIGNS BUT LIKE I SAID, I WOULD'VE TO FOLLOW UP TO SEE WHAT EXACTLY THEY DID OUT THERE.

OKAY.

BUT THEY HAVE TO, I THINK BEFORE THEY PUT A SIGN UP NOW 'CAUSE THEY ALL THE SIGNS ON STEEL POST DON'T, THEY HAVE TO PUT A FOOTING DOWN AND THEY PUT THE BASE PART DOWN AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND DO THE SIGN.

I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION, MS. DANG .

I THINK THAT'S THE WAY THEY DO IT NOW SINCE THEY HAD LEFT THE WOODEN POST.

SO WHAT YOU SAW TODAY, THEY COULD HAVE BEEN PUTTING DOWN A NEW FOOTING FOR THE MOVE IT YES.

LET'S HOPE THAT THEY DID.

YES SIR.

OKAY.

MR. CHAIR? YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK TO UH, WHITE MARSH ROAD SINCE I'M EXTREMELY FAMILIAR WITH WHITE MARSH ROAD SINCE NOT ONLY DO I LIVE THERE, I GREW UP THERE.

UM, BUT THAT ROAD IS GOING TO NEED SOME SERIOUS WORK.

UH, WE NEED TO HAVE UH, VDOT TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE THE ROAD IS CRACKING.

YEP.

YOU HAVE THE WASHBOARD EFFECT IN SOME AREAS.

UH, EVEN IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, THE EDGES OF IT ARE BROKEN UP.

I BOUGHT A BRAND NEW MAILBOX BECAUSE OF IT.

I DIDN'T CHARGE ANYBODY FOR IT, , BUT TWO, TWO OF THE LARGER VEHICLES TRYING TO PASS AT MY HOUSE TOOK OUT MY MAILBOX.

AND UH, BUT THE UH, ROAD DOES NEED SOME SERIOUS WORK.

AND THE CURB THAT I REFERRED TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S TWO MILES DOWN, UH, I WOULD HATE TO THINK IF WE HAD A BREAKTHROUGH UNDER THAT ROAD IF WE HAD A LOT OF, 'CAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY A FEEDER DITCH ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THAT HAS GROWN UP AND OVER THE YEARS THE DIRT HAS FILLED IT IN AND THE WATER NO LONGER FLOWS PROPERLY THROUGH THAT DOESN'T GO THROUGH LIKE IT SHOULD EXACTLY.

BUT THAT ROAD IS DETERIORATING THERE AS WELL.

WELL, EVER SINCE THAT THEY STARTED THE SOLAR FARMS OUT THERE OFF OF WHITE MARSH, MARSH AND ALL FROM WAKEFIELD ALL THE WAY THROUGH TILL YOU GET TO ROUTE 10.

IF YOU RIDE REAL SLOW YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE ROAD HAS BROKE ALL UP BIG CRACKS, THE SENATE AND IT'S ALL FROM HAULING THEM REAL HEAVY LOADS THROUGH THERE THAT'S OVERWEIGHT.

AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THEY HAD TO GET THE EQUIPMENT IN THERE SOME KINDA WAY.

BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED ALSO TO THE SOLAR PEOPLE THAT WHEN THEY GET TO SSUR THEY NEED TO RESURFACE A WHOLE LOT OF WHITE MARSH ALSO.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO TO TALK TO OTHER THAN YOU MS BRANCHES AND IF YOU CAN TALK TO, TO WHOEVER.

BUT I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE THEY PACK UP AND MOVE ALL THE WAY OUT.

'CAUSE IT WEREN'T LIKE THAT UNTIL THEY STARTED IN THERE WITH THESE REAL HEAVY LOADS.

AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A TRUCK THAT'S GROSS IN 130,000 POUNDS ON A BLACK TOP ROAD, IT'S THAT THICK IN THE SUMMERTIME OR EVENING IN THE WINTERTIME, IT'S GONNA BREAK IT UP AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED.

AND A WHOLE LOT OF THE PLACES DDOT HAS HAD THIS LITTLE TRUCK WITH THE BOOM OUT FRONT GOING AROUND.

AND TO ME ALL THAT'S DOING IS JUST MAKING THE MESS OF THE HIGHWAY AND PUTTING SPEED BUMPS OUT DOWN, WHICH WE NEED 'EM IN SOME PLACES, BUT WE DON'T NEED IT LIKE THAT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN GET DONE, BUT I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

THANK YOU MR. LANE FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? YES SIR.

I, I, I SPOKE WITH MR. CARROLL OVER THE PAST 10 DAYS, UM,

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WITH ME NOT ON A COUPLE ISSUES AND I JUST KIND OF WANNA BRING THESE UP 'CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO NOTIFY THE BOARD.

RIGHT.

BUT THE DOUBLE LINE STRIPING, WHEN YOU COME OFF THE FERRY AND GET UP TO THE TOP OF THE HILL AND IT BEARS OFF TO THE BEARS OFF TO THE LEFT, IT UM, IT HAS FADED AND WORN AWAY.

SO JUST I THINK THIS WEEK THEY HAVE RES STRIPPED THAT NEW THAT UH, ROADWAY WITH, YOU KNOW, THE NEW YELLOW STRIPES.

SO THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

I HAD A, UH, CONCERN FROM A CITIZEN THAT LIVES BACK, UH, UP THAT WAY.

UM, SECONDLY, UM, UM, THERE HAS BEEN REQUESTS AT THE CO WHARF, UH, ROAD, UH, THAT GOES DOWN TO THE RIVER, UM, ON THE BACK ROAD FROM THE UH, FERRY TO UH, THE SURREY POWER PLANT.

UM, THERE'S BEEN AN ENGINEER, THERE IS AN ENGINEERING STUDY CURRENTLY BEING WORKED TO UM, ADDRESS THE SPEED ON THAT ROAD BECAUSE IT'S 55 AND THEN WHEN IT BEARS OFF TO THE RIGHT, PEOPLE THINK IT'S STILL 55 WHEN IT REALLY GOES RUN THROUGH THE LEFT.

RIGHT.

IT, UM, SO THEY'RE TRYING TO, TO GET THAT ADDRESSED, UM, TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT.

THAT ROAD IS VERY, VERY NARROW AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN THERE, UH, LET'S SEE HERE.

BEAR WITH ME.

MR. ROGER CLAYTON, UH, INDICATED THAT THE BRIDGE AT 6 26 OFF OF SIX 18, UM, IT'S NOT REALLY A BRIDGE.

IT'S, THERE'S A, UH, A BOX UNDERNEATH THE ROAD I GUESS FOR WATER TO PASS THROUGH WHAT THEY CONSIDER IS A BRIDGE AND IT'S GOT GUARDRAILS ON EACH SIDE.

UM, IT'S UH, THEY TRIED TO REPAIR THAT.

VDOT IS AWARE OF THAT.

THEY TRIED TO REPAIR IT AND THE REPAIR DID NOT WORK.

SO VDOT HAS TOLD ME THAT WITHIN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS THEY'RE GONNA REPAVE THAT WHOLE SECTION OF THAT BRIDGE TO MAKE IT SMOOTH AS OPPOSED TO BOUNCING ACROSS THE THAT AREA.

SO I JUST WANTED, YOU SAID THAT'S 6 26 IN WHAT? UH, SIX, UH, 6 26 OFFICE.

SIX 18.

IT'S HOW THE SHOULD BE.

SORRY, HOW THE, THOSE SHOULD BE YES MA'AM.

.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PASS THAT ALONG TO YOU ALSO.

THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THE NEW THINGS THAT I HAVE.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? WELL THERE IS ONE THING.

WHITE MARSH, THE PIPELINE THAT'S CROSSING WHITE MARSH.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS, IT WAS GOING UNDERNEATH WHITE MARSH.

YEAH, I HAD NO IDEA.

RIGHT.

I HAD NO IDEA THAT PROJECT WAS EVEN IN THE WORK.

I MISSED IT SOME KIND OF WAY.

YEAH.

IS THERE ONE OF THE GUYS THAT GOES THERE? HE'S THE ONE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE PROBLEM SOLVER.

HE CAME, I KNOW HIM PERSONALLY AND HE CAME BY AND STOPPED AT THE SHOP THIS AFTERNOON, TALKED TO ME AND HE SAYS BY I THINK THE END OF OCTOBER THE JOB HAS TO BE COMPLETED.

THE PIPE HAS TO BE TESTED WITH WATER.

AND IF YOU DID, YOU GO ON GOODES PARK ROAD THIS MORNING WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LEFT MY HOUSE AND IF YOU GO ON GOODES PARK ROAD AND YOU GO ON DOWN AND GO BY THE LOWE'S AND RIGHT AT THE END OF THE LOWE'S PROPERTY ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THEY HAVE PUT THESE HUGE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF GALLONS A TANK THERE FOR THE HOLY WATER.

THEY WERE AT THE BEGINNING THEY WERE GONNA USE THE WATER FROM ROGERS' FISH POND AND THEN ENVIRONMENTALIST PEOPLE STEPPED IN BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY ON THE JOB WITH 'EM.

AND THEY'RE SPENDING ON EACH JOB SITE THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON VISIT ENVIRONMENTALIST OUT THERE 24 HOURS A DAY.

MOST OF THE TIME THEY INSTRUCTED THEM THAT THAT WATER COULD NOT BE USED.

THEY HAD TALKED ABOUT GETTING IT FROM MY SON-IN-LAW THAT'S GOT THAT BIG ARTESIAN WELL AND THEY ALSO WAS TOLD THEY COULDN'T USE THAT.

THEY NOW ARE TRUCKING WATER IN THERE FROM CHESAPEAKE WAY AND IT'S GOT SOME KIND OF CHEMICAL IN IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT.

AND ONCE THEY FINISH PUTTING IN ALL THIS NEW LINE, THEN THEY WILL PUMP THAT WATER INTO THAT GAS LINE CHECK FOR LEAKS AND IT'S GOT TO BE COMPLETED BY THE LAST DAY OF OCTOBER AND HAVE GRASS GROWING WHERE THEY TURN THEN DOING ALL THEIR WORK.

AND

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SOME OF THE FARMERS IS KIND OF IRRITATED WITH IT.

BUT IF I GOT THE MONEY THAT THEY GOT FOR THEIR CROPS THAT THEY WERE GOING ACROSS THE FIELD, THAT I WOULD'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY .

BUT THEY CAME IN AND I HAD NO IDEA THEY WERE GONNA BE STARTING THIS QUICK.

IF I DID, I WOULD'VE BROUGHT IT UP AT THE LAST MEETING BUT, AND I KNEW THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE UPSETTING THE ROAD OTHER THAN JUST DRIVING ON IT BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE THE PIPE OVER FROM UNDER THE ROAD JUST IN THERE NOW AND THEN, LIKE I TOLD YOU THIS MORNING, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME, BUT A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

ENVIRONMENTALIST TOLD 'EM THEY HAD TO TAKE THE PIPE OUT AND THEN THEY HAD TO FILL THE DITCH BACK IN.

ONCE THEY COMPLETED THE DITCH BEING FILLED BACK IN, THEN THEY WOULD APPROVE IT FOR THEM TO DIG A NEW DITCH TO PUT YOUR NEW PIPE IN.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHEN YOU GO AND LOOK AT WHERE THEY'RE WORKING, THEY AIN'T PLAYING.

THEY WORKING AND THERE'S GOD KNOWS HOW MANY BULL NOSES AND EXCAVATORS THAT THEY'VE GOT OUT THERE.

AND IT'S NOT JUST IN SURREY AND SUSSEX, IT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN.

YES.

I HAD NO IDEA THEY WERE DOING IT THAT FAR.

MM-HMM.

, EVEN FRANKLIN.

YEAH.

WENT TO WHAT FRANKLIN? YEAH, THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST LINES THAT THEY INSTALLED.

THEY SAID IT HAS GOTTEN TO WHERE IT HAD TO COME UP AT THE GROUND AND PUT SOME NEW STUFF IN AND THEY MUST THINK IT'S POISON OR SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY'RE PICKING THAT PIPE UP AT THE GROUND, THEY'RE PUTTING A SOCK OVER TOP OF IT AND THEN THEY GOT THE WRAP IT GOOD AND TIGHT AND IT'S GOT BE SEALED UP 100%.

THEN IT'S LOADED ON THE SAME TRUCK THAT BRINGS IN THE NEW STUFF AND THEY GO BACK OUT WITH IT.

AND WHAT THEY DO IS, I HAVE NO IDEA, BUT THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE HANDLING THE JOB SITE THERE.

AND AS I WAS TELLING YOU THIS MORNING, THEY GOT FOUR PEOPLE THAT'S WALKING AHEAD OF THEM AND THEY ARE SNAKE REMOVALS.

IF ANYONE OUT THERE ON THE JOB IS CAUGHT KILLING A SNAKE OR SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING THAT HE WAS TRYING TO KILL, ONE HE'S IN THE ROAD, HE DON'T HAVE A JOB.

SO THEY ARE RIGHT STRICT.

AND THAT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTALIST PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

YES.

UM, THIS MORNING I DID GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH THE SITE SUPERVISOR AND I ASKED THEM IF THEY WOULD FORWARD INFORMATION TO ME, YOU KNOW, REGARDING WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND COPIES OF THEIR PERMITS.

'CAUSE THEY SAID RIGHT, THEY SAID THEY'RE VERY HEAVILY REGULATED 'CAUSE IT'S A FEDERAL AND STATE PROJECT.

YEP.

SO THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T REALLY COME ACROSS MY DESK BUT UM, YOU KNOW, JUST ADVISED THEM ABOUT THE SEDIMENT IN THE ROADWAY AND THEY SAID AT THE END OF EACH DAY THEY TOOK CARE OF THAT AND CLEANED THE ROAD.

SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO SEE ANYTHING THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

SO.

WELL THAT'S WHAT REALLY I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO SEE JUST BEFORE WE GET TO MY HOUSE.

THE WAY IT GOES ACROSS THE ROAD THERE, UH, I THINK IT WAS WEEK BEFORE LAST, THEY HAD A TRUCK COME OUTTA THERE AND BEFORE THEY WOULD LET ANOTHER TRUCK GO IN THERE OR LET ANYONE GO DOWN THE ROAD THROUGH THERE, THEY HAD A GUY THERE WITH A PUSH BROOM AND HE SWEEPING THE ROAD OFF CLEAN BECAUSE WHEN I GOT UP THERE YOU COULDN'T TELL THERE WAS ANY DIRT AIR ON IT.

YES.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING IF WE COULD GET EVERYBODY THAT DOES CONSTRUCTION WORK TO DO, WE'D BE ALL RIGHT .

BUT AS THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT I'VE SEEN AND I'VE BEEN RIDING AROUND LOOKING JUST TO SEE IF THEY WERE SCREWING UP SOMEWHERE, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN WHERE THEY MESSED THE ROAD UP ANYWHERE.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN HAULING SOME HEAVY LOADS BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE DOSES THAT THEY BRINGING IN THERE IS WAY OVER 150,000 POUNDS.

YES.

AND THAT'S A LOT OF WEIGHT TIRES.

YES.

THEY, WHEN THEY GOING, THEY UNLOADING ALL THIS EQUIPMENT IN THE HIGHWAY AND WHEN THEY UNLOAD IT, THEY'VE GOT BIG TILE LAYING ON THE BLACKTOP OR ON THE ROCK.

WELL WHERE THEY'RE AT.

YOU CAN'T EVEN TELL THAT THEY UNLOADED IT THERE.

AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY THAT COULD DO THAT AND LEAVE THE ROAD IN THE SAME SHAPE AS IT WAS BEFORE THEY STARTED.

BUT THAT'S, I'M SURE THEY GONNA MESS UP SOMEWHERE BEFORE IT'S OVER WITH.

BUT IT'S, THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB FAR AS HIGHWAY PART OF IT.

AND I WAS TOLD THAT WHERE THEY'RE BLOCKING THE DITCHES UP, ALL OF THAT WILL BE CLEANED OUT AND ALL THE PLACES THAT THEY'RE PUTTING ROCK LIKE THEM

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BUILDING ROADS FOR, TO GET INTO THE GAS LINE ACROSS PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.

AND IF YOU GO ON ROUTE 6 0 4 GOING TOWARD CALVIN ADAMS STORE, IF YOU LOOK DOWN THAT AT THE PRESTON FARM ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE AND LOOK AT THAT HIGHWAY, THEY PUT UP THROUGH THAT WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN WHAT WE TRAVEL ON.

AND WHEN THEY LEAVE THEY'VE GOT TO TAKE EVERY ROCK THAT THEY PUT DOWN, IT'S GOT TO BE GOTTEN UP IN ACCOUNTED FOR AND HAULED OUT AND GRASS AND STUFF THAT'S GONNA BE SEEDED AND, AND I JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE DOING ALL OF THAT.

I WOULD WANT THE ROAD LEFT, BUT THEY WILL NOT LEAVE ONE OF THE ROADS.

THEY, THEIR INSTRUCTIONS ARE TO TAKE IT UP AND WHEN THEY LEAVE THE PROPERTY IT IS JUST LIKE IT WAS WHEN THEY, WHEN ARRIVED ON THE SCENE.

SO THEY, LIKE I SAY AGAIN, THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB I THINK.

BUT IF ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING ON THEM, PLEASE CONTACT FRANCIS AND LET HER KNOW.

UH, IF YOU CAN ALSO LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW THE GUY THAT'S DOES ALL OF THE PROBLEM SOLVERS, PROBLEM SOLVERS I GUESS YOU COULD SAY.

AND I SPEAK TO HIM JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY AND HE'S THE GUY THAT STOPPED AT MY HOST THIS AFTERNOON TALK TO ME AND WHEN SOMETHING AIN'T GOING RIGHT, HE'LL EITHER GIMME A CALL AND LET ME KNOW IT AND HE'LL ASK ME.

HE SAYS, HAVE YOU BEEN LONG SO AND SO ROAD AND HOW LONG DID THEY KEEP THE TRAFFIC STOP IF THEY UNLOAD SOMETHING, THEIR PERMITS OF GIVING THEM 10 MINUTES TO BLOCK TRAFFIC AND THAT'S IT.

AND SO FAR I'VE NEVER BEEN TO ONE OF THE SITES THAT THEY TOOK OVER 15 MINUTES TO UNLOAD A BIG PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND GET THE ROAD CLEANED AND OPEN BACK UP SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING APPARENTLY.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADDRESS ALONG THAT LINE? SO OUR NEXT MEETING IS NOVEMBER THE 13TH.

THAT'S NOT A FRIDAY IS IT? .

.

OKAY.

IS THAT GOOD WITH EVERYBODY? YES SIR.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND THAT WILL WIND UP THIS YEAR AGAIN.

OKAY.

IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, CAN WE GET THAT MAGIC WORD MOVE TO ADJOURN SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE AYE.

OKAY.

AND THE AYES HAVE IT AND I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AGAIN TONIGHT FOR COMING AND TAKING TIME SO THAT WE CAN SOLVE SOME OF OUR PROBLEMS IN THE COUNTY.

WE HOPE WE DO.

ANYWAY, , THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AND THANK YOU AGAIN FRANCIS FOR ALL YOU DO IN, IN THIS AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A WORKLOAD FOR WHAT YOU DO IN IT.

THANK YOU TOO.