APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT ITEMS.
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GIVE A SECOND.[*This meeting was joined in progress*]
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SECOND.ALL IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE VOTING SIGN OF AYE.
OPPOSED? OUR CONSENT ITEMS HAVE BEEN ADOPTED.
BOARD MEMBERS, WE NOW MOVE INTO
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OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE'RE GOING TO ASK OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY IF SHE WOULD GIVE OUR STATEMENT IN REGARDS TO OUR COMMENTS.TO ENSURE THAT THE AFFAIRS OF THE BOARD AND ITS COMMITTEES MAY BE CONDUCTED IN AN ORDERLY MANNER TO ENSURE THAT ALL PERSONS DESIRING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON MATTERS PERTINENT TO IT ARE AFFORDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
TO PERMIT PERSONS IN ATTENDANCE TO OBSERVE AND HEAR THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE BOARD WITHOUT DISTRACTION AND TO PERMIT TO THE FULLEST, FULLEST EXTENT THE BOARD TO CONDUCT COUNTY BUSINESS WITH MINIMAL DISRUPTION.
THE FOLLOWING RULES ARE ESTABLISHED.
A, EACH PERSON DESIRING TO SPEAK MUST SIGN UP IN ADVANCE OF THE OPENING OF THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD ON THE AGENDA.
B, EACH SPEAKER SHALL BE LIMITED TO A PERIOD OF THREE MINUTES PER COMMENT PERIOD.
WHEN TWO MINUTES HAVE PASSED, THE SPEAKER WILL BE REMINDED THAT THERE IS ONE MINUTE REMAINING.
SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP MAY USE THEIR ALLOTTED TIME ONLY FOR THEMSELVES AND MAY NOT DONATE THEIR TIME TO OTHER SPEAKERS.
D SPEAKERS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO USE AUDIO, VISUAL MATERIALS OR OTHER VISUAL DISPLAYS, BUT MAY PRESENT WRITTEN AND PHOTOGRAPHIC MATERIALS TO BOARD MEMBERS.
E COMMENTS MUST BE CONFINED TO MATTERS, GERMANE TO THE BUSINESS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SHALL NOT BE CUMULATIVE OR REPETITIVE.
THE BOARD MAY PREVENT OR DISCONTINUE COMMENTS FROM ANY SPEAKER THAT ARE IRRELEVANT.
F SPEAKERS SHOULD ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH DECORUM, LOUD, BOISTEROUS, AND DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR.
OBSCENITY AND VULGARITY SHALL BE AVOIDED AS WELL AS OTHER WORDS OR ACTS TENDING TO EVOKE VIOLENCE OR DEEMED TO BE A BREACH OF THE PIECE.
INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT ABIDE BY THIS POLICY AFTER A WARNING WILL FORFEIT ANY REMAINING SPEAKER TIME AND BE ASKED TO RETURN TO THEIR SEAT OR LEAVE THE MEETING.
G THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD OR TIME FOR DIALOGUE WITH COUNTY OFFICIALS.
QUESTIONS WHICH ARE RAISED DURING A COMMENT PERIOD MAY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD BE RESPONDED TO BY COUNTY OFFICIALS.
AFTER SUFFICIENT TIME FOR APPROPRIATE INVESTIGATION, H SPEAKERS SHALL REMAIN AT THE PODIUM WHILE ADDRESSING THE BOARD.
EXCEPT WHERE AN ACCOMMODATION HAS BEEN GRANTED IN ADVANCE.
I SPEAKERS SHALL NOT BE INTERRUPTED BY AUDIENCE, COMMENTS, CALLS SLASH WHISTLES, LAUGHTER OR OTHER GESTURES, INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE WHO DO NOT ABIDE BY THIS POLICY AFTER A WARNING WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE THE MEETING.
J MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE PROHIBITED FROM CAMPAIGNING FOR PUBLIC OFFICE OR OTHERWISE ENGAGING IN ELECTION RELATED SPEECH IN THE MEETING ROOM WHEN NOT DIRECTLY, DIRECTLY RELATED TO AN ISSUE BEFORE THE BOARD.
THESE RULES DO NOT PRECLUDE PERSONS FROM DELIVERING TO THE BOARD OR ITS CLERK WRITTEN MATERIALS, INCLUDING REPORTS, STATEMENTS, EXHIBITS, LETTERS, OR SIGNED PETITIONS, OR TO PROHIBIT PERSONS FROM PRESENTING ORAL OR WRITTEN COMMENTS ON ANY SUBJECT DOMAIN TO THE BUSINESS OF THE BOARD, TO INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS OR TO THE BOARD THROUGH ITS CLERK OUTSIDE THE CONTEXT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, PUBLIC MEETING.
UH, IN LOOKING AT, UH, THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WHO'VE SIGNED UP FOR OUR PUBLIC, UH, COMMENTS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DISTINGUISH THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE HAVE ON THIS EVENING.
I SEE SOME OF, UH, UH, STATED THAT THEY WILL BE TALKING ABOUT, UH, SYCAMORE CROSS AND JUST WANT TO GET THAT THE TWO MIXED UP.
WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING ON SYCAMORE CROSS FOLLOWING OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND HAVING SAID THAT, OUR FIRST, UH, PERSON FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE, UH, DR. LAWRENCE BILL PUBLIC CAUGHT BY SURPRISE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS AT THE END GUILTY FOR HAVING TO READ THIS, BUT I'M TOO OLD TO THINK ON MY FEET ANYMORE.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS REGARD REGARDING AN, AN ARTICLE IN THE SMITHFIELD TIMES IN DECEMBER.
MY BRIEF COMMENTS INCLUDE, ONE, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR VISION FOR S COUNTY.
TWO, I THANK YOU FOR DOING YOUR JOB WITHOUT HESITATION, MAKING BOLD AND COURAGEOUS DECISIONS IN THE FACE OF DISRESPECT AND PETTY OPPOSITION.
AND THREE, I THANK YOU FOR THE MANY ACHIEVEMENT FOR THE COUNTY OVER THE LAST 45 YEARS TO HELP S COUNTY BECOME
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THE SPECIAL PLACE THAT IT IS.MY THIRD THANK YOU DEMANDS A BRIEF HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE.
WHEN I CAME TO COUNTY IN 1968, HOWEVER, LEFT IN 1975 AND RETURNED IN 2000, MOST OF ITS RESIDENTS WERE BLACK, BUT IT HAD NO BLACK ELECTED OFFICIALS, NO BLACK ADMINISTRATORS, NO, NO GOVERNMENT CENTER, NO PARKS AND RECREATION CENTER, NO MEDICAL CENTER TO MENTION A FEW, BUT NOW WE HAVE THEM.
AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, IN 1968, THE COUNTY WAS OPERATED BY WHITE ELECTED OFFICIALS WITH ALL BLACK PARTICIPATION EXCEPT FOR ONE DEPUTY SHERIFF.
SINCE THE EARLY 1970, HOWEVER, THE COUNTY HAS HAD THREE BLACK AND TWO WHITE BOARD MEMBERS.
BESIDES THAT, OTHER BLACKS HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO DIFFERENT POSITIONS AND BOARDS.
WHEN I RETURNED TO THE COUNTY UNTIL 2000, I THOUGHT THE RACIAL ISSUE HAD BEEN SETTLED.
WHEN I ATTENDED THE BOARD MEETING TWO, TWO YEARS AGO TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR MY 90TH BIRTHDAY AND TO, AND, AND AGAIN LAST YEAR WITH MY WIFE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR HER 90TH BIRTHDAY, I DISCOVERED THE SAD TRUTH THAT THE CIVIL WAR, IN A VERY REAL SENSE, STILL BEEN FOUGHT THAT I DID, WAS BROUGHT TO LIGHT IN DECEMBER.
WHEN I READ AN ARTICLE BY THE EDITORIAL BOARDS OF THE SMITHFIELD TIMES, IT BEGINS WITH, HAVE ONE MINUTE DR.
IT BEGINS WITH WE LONG FOR THE DAY WHEN RACE IS NO LONGER A PREVAILING FACTOR IN POLITICS IN A SENTENCE, WE ALL LONG FOR THAT.
BUT IN CONTEXT, THAT STATEMENT REFERRED TO THREE BLACK BOARD MEMBERS WHO VOTE FOR PROGRESS.
AND THE TWO WHITE MEMBERS WHO APPEAR, AND I UNDERSCORE THE TERM, APPEAR, APPEAR TO VOTE FOR RETURN TO THE PAST.
INDEED, UH, THE VOTES WERE RACIAL BUT NOT RACISTS.
THE VOTES REPRESENT OPPOSITE WORLDVIEWS, PROGRESSIVE AND CONSERVATIVE.
ANOTHER THANK YOU GOES IS TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THAT'S OUR TIME, SIR.
WE HAVE, UH, MS. SHALON PIERCE, DR. PIERCE, GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS, CITIZENS.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE BACON'S CASTLE COMMUNITY.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FIRST THAT THE, WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT I COMMENTS, BUT THEY'RE SIMILAR IN NATURE.
I TITLED THIS IS IT, NO VOICE, RACISM, OPPRESSION, OR SIMPLY THE ACTIONS OF THE MAJORITY IN AUTHORITY.
RECENT ACTIVITY IN THE SMITHFIELD TIMES PROTESTS PRIOR TO BOARD MEETINGS AND APPARENT THREATS TOWARDS OUR BOARD MEMBERS WOULD HAVE ONE PUNT OF THE QUESTION, ARE THERE RACE RELATION ISSUES IN SURY COUNTY? SOME WILL SAY NO.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE RECENT CONCERNS FROM BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT VOICE AND BEING HEARD ARE RACIALLY RELATED OR NOT.
WHAT I AM CERTAIN OF IS THAT THERE IS A MAJORITY AND A MINORITY IN TERMS OF RACE ON THE BOARD.
AND THOSE WHO ARE IN THE MINORITY ON THE BOARD ARE OFTEN IN THE MAJORITY IN OTHER SETTINGS IN THIS STATE AND NATION.
IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT THE MAJORITY OF DECISIONS ARE MADE BY THOSE ON THE BOARD WHO ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR.
WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO SAY THEIR VOICE IS NOT HEARD, I BEG TO DIFFER.
YOUR VOICE IS HEARD DURING BOARD DISCUSSIONS DURING THE MEETING ON ACTION ITEMS AND NON-ACTION ITEMS DURING BOARD COMMENTS.
AND WHEN YOU SPEAK WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS, CONSTITUENTS BY VARIOUS MEANS, INCLUDING THE SMITHFIELD TIMES.
HOWEVER, HAVING HEARD ONE'S VOICE AND HAVING ONE'S DESIRED OUTCOME APPEAR TO BE DIFFERENT IN MOST CASES.
WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED, MARGINALIZED, AND TREATED UNFAIRLY SINCE OUR ANCESTORS WERE BROUGHT OVER HERE FROM THE CONTINENT OF AFRICA MANY YEARS AGO.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE FEELING.
MANY OF US WHO ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE FELT THIS WAY ALL OF OUR LIVES.
THE DIFFERENCE IS THE ACTIONS OF THESE MAJORITY BOARD MEMBERS ARE NOT OPPRESSIVE, DO NOT MARGINALIZE, AND ARE THE RESULT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
WHEN I SAY THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT ONE RACE OR ANOTHER, THEY IMPACT ALL OF US.
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IS THEIR DECISIONS ARE NOT A RESULT.WANTING TO KEEP A GROUP OF PEOPLE OPPRESSED, MARGINALIZED, OR A RESULT OF BEING A RACE MAN.
SO LET'S NOT PLAY THE RACE CARD.
LET'S PLAY THE PROGRESSIVE AND WHO HAS THE POWER AS GIVEN TO THEM BY THE VOTERS OF THIS COUNTY CARD.
LET'S UNDERSTAND AND ACCEPT THAT OUR VOICE IS BEING HEARD, BUT THE POWER IS IN THE VOTE OF THE MAJORITY, BOTH AT THE POLLS AND DURING BOARD MEETINGS.
I THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME HAVE THESE COMMENTS.
WE NEXT HAVE SIGNED UP, UH, MR. BILLY HOL HOLMAN.
YOU WANNA SPEAK NOW, SIR, YOU CAN SPEAK AT BOTH.
I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW HE CAN BE.
WE DO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SYCAMORE CROSS.
HAVE THE SAME WITH MR. JOHN BYNUM.
NEXT WE HAVE MR. MICHAEL JURY.
I I JUST WANT TO THANK THE BOARD AND FOR ALL THE SERVICE Y'ALL DO, I KNOW IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT JOB AND I'M SURE THE ATTABOYS RARELY RESONATE AS LOUD AS THE OLD CRAPS.
AND YES, SIR, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS, AND YOU CAN'T PLEASE EVERYBODY AND, AND NO MATTER WHAT, BUT THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THANK YOU, MR. MICHAEL DRURY, MIKE DRE
IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE RACE IS ON OUR MIND THIS EVENING.
WE'VE GOT THREE SPEAKERS, INCLUDING MYSELF AND, AND I'M GLAD TO REALLY SEE THE CONVERSATION COME UP.
BUT WE NEED TO BUILD BRIDGES AND WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO EACH OTHER AND NOT JUST COME UP HERE AND, AND TALK ABOUT THIS.
YOU KNOW, Y'ALL DON'T KNOW AMY AND I AND, AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW YOU.
THERE'S SIMPLY, IN I COUNTY, WE DO NOT HAVE A COMMUNITY GATHERING POINT IN WHICH DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE CAN COME TOGETHER, GATHER, AND GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER.
WE TRIED TO ESTABLISH SUCH ENDRIN BUT FAILED.
I READ THIS A WHILE BACK, AND SO PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.
THERE'S A POLITICAL THEORY WRITTEN A HUNDRED YEARS AGO THAT STATES, FOR A POLITICAL OR COMMUNITY GROUP POWER TO BE ESTABLISHED AND ENDURE.
THERE MUST BE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN FRIEND AND ENEMY.
WE SEE THIS PLAYED OUT IN OUR NATIONAL POLITICS TODAY, AND WE SEE IT BEING PLAYED OUT IN SURREY.
WHEN THE FRIEND ENEMY DISTINCTION IS ESTABLISHED, IT BECOMES IMMORAL TO TREAT YOUR ENEMIES WITH KINDNESS, A BETRAYAL OF YOUR SIDE IF YOU DO SUCH.
LET'S FACE IT, AND WE HEARD IT HERE TONIGHT.
OUR COUNTY IS CULTURALLY DIVIDED.
WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD, I BECAME CONCERNED HOW A FORMER COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WAS TREATING SOME EMPLOYEES AND TREATING A FAMILY IN THE DISTRICT.
I HAD AN EEOC COMPLAINT FILED AGAINST ME AND DISMISSED.
WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD, I MADE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE CONFEDERATE MONUMENT FROM THE COURTHOUSE YARD.
I FELT IT WAS THE RIGHT THING FOR ME TO DO.
I FELT IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE COUNTY AND THE COMMUNITY THAT I HAD SPOKEN WITH.
WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD, I MADE THE MOTION TO APPOINT MS. ROLLINS AS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE AT THAT TIME, IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
WHAT IS THE RESULT? AND I SYMPATHIZE WITH Y'ALL BEING ON BOARD.
WHEN YOU DO THINGS LIKE THIS, YOU GET KICKED AND YOU GET KICKED BY PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP AND TRYING TO SUPPORT.
IT'S SIMPLY THIS VERY WAY IT SEEMS. ONE MINUTE, SIR.
I DON'T WANT MY WIFE, OUR FRIENDS, FAMILIES AND Y'ALL'S EITHER TO BE TREATED THIS WAY.
WE ARE DIVIDED NATIONALLY TO THE PRESENT.
AND LOOK, AND I HEAR DISCUSSION ABOUT BUILDING A BRIDGE TO JAMES CITY COUNTY, WHICH I, WHICH I UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF IT, BUT WE NEED TO HIRE A PROFESSIONAL TO BUILD BRIDGES HERE BETWEEN THE CULTURES IN OUR OWN COUNTY, AND IT IS JUST NOT BEING DISCUSSED.
SO I URGE Y'ALL TO CONSIDER TO GET SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP TO BUILD BRIDGES HERE.
WE'VE HEARD IT THREE TIMES TONIGHT THAT IT'S ON PEOPLE'S MINDS AND THANK YOU.
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SUSAN VEO CLAREMONT DISTRICT BOARD MEMBERS, YOUR CODE OF ETHICS ASSURES PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN THE INTEGRITY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND ITS EFFECTIVE AND FAIR OPERATION PROVIDED TO YOU TONIGHT AS POST THAT WAS PLACED ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT I BELIEVE NEEDS TO BE CALLED TO YOUR ATTENTION.SEVERAL COMMENTS GO AGAINST YOUR CODE OF ETHICS, SPECIFICALLY ONE WHERE A BOARD MEMBER IS SHARING ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER'S TEXT MESSAGE.
WASN'T THIS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS YOU RECENTLY UPDATED YOUR CODE OF ETHICS IN THIS POST? THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO A TEXT SENT OUT BY STAFF TO BOARD MEMBERS, AND THE BOARD MEMBER COMMENTED THEY HAD READ THE SAME TEXT MESSAGE THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE FENDEN RECEIVED NO LESS THAN 50 TIMES TO TRY AND SEE WHAT THEY ALLEGED IS THERE EACH TIME IT ESCAPES ME.
THE STATEMENT IN THAT TEXT OF CONCERN IS, I KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE AFRICAN AMERICANS IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, WE ARE DISCRIMINATED ON BIG TIME FACT.
BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO OUR JOB WITH OUR ELECTED LEADERS WHO WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE, MAKE BOLD AND COURAGEOUS DECISIONS RATHER THAN THE SAME 10 PEOPLE WHO CAN HAVE AN OPINION BUT JUST DON'T LIKE THE WAY WE LOOK AND WHO ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COUNTY.
MR. ELLIOT, WHAT DOES THAT STATEMENT MEAN? THESE 10 PEOPLE JUST DON'T LIKE STAFF OR BOARD MEMBERS BECAUSE OF HOW THEY LOOK.
WHO ARE THESE 10 PEOPLE THAT THE TEXT IS REFERRING TO? IN MY OPINION, THIS COMMENT STATING THAT PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE YOUR DECISION MAKING BECAUSE OF HOW YOU LOOK AND WHEN YOU'RE REFERRING TO SOMEONE'S RACE OR GENDER, THERE'S A DISCRIMINATION ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
TWO WOMEN HAVE BROUGHT THIS ISSUE TO YOUR ATTENTION ONE MINUTE THAT THEY ARE EITHER DISCRIMINATED AGAINST OR UNCOMFORTABLE IN THEIR POSITION.
MS. RUY SUGGESTED OF BRINGING IN A THIRD PARTY TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER AND POSSIBLY BRING BETTER UNITY AMONGST EVERYONE.
THERE ARE A CODE OF ETHICS OF PERSONAL USE AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND PUBLIC SPEECH VIOLATIONS AND CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
THIS WILL ALLOW THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY TO FEEL THAT THERE IS A POSITIVE AND CONSTRUCTIVE WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT FOR SURREY COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND FOR CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES DEALING WITH THE COUNTY.
ONE OF THE STATEMENTS UNDER YOUR MODEL OF EXCELLENCE OF SURREY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS COMMITTEE'S COMMISSION MEMBER STATEMENT IS TO AVOID AND DISCOURAGE CONDUCT, WHICH IS DIVISIVE OR HARMFUL TO THE BEST ENTRANCE OF SURREY COUNTY AND THE SURREY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
HAVE, UH, IAN ABBOTT? YES, SIR.
AND THIS IS TARA PASCAL AND I'M GONNA WAIT FOR THE, AND HAVE, UH, DR.
FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK THE SPEAKERS FROM EARLIER.
I LISTENED TO SOME OF YOU ON THE WAY IN AND, UM, DR. PIERCE, THERE WAS ANOTHER GENTLEMAN, UH, OF TELLER WHO WERE VERY, VERY ELOQUENT.
UM, MY COMMENTS ARE NO MORE ELOQUENT AND PERHAPS EVEN LESS SO.
THERE'S SOME DISTINCTIONS THAT I HAVEN'T ARTICULATED THAT WELL THAT WERE MADE TONIGHT.
I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATED THAT.
SO I HAVE SOME MORE THINKING TO DO.
SO PARDON MY IMPERFECT COMMENTS, UM, BEING BUT HUMAN, I'LL DO THE BEST I CAN.
THE FIRST TIME I STOOD HERE, I SPOKE OF HOW FRIENDLY AND WELCOMING SURREY COUNTY CITIZENS HAVE BEEN TO ME AND MY FAMILY.
I WANT TO HISTORICALLY IMPOVERISHED COUNTY TO REALIZE ITS DREAMS. TAX REVENUE WILL HELP.
SOLAR FARMS AREN'T INHERENTLY EVIL, NOR ARE NOISY AND IMPORTANT INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE DATA CENTERS.
I AND OTHERS JUST DON'T PREFER THEIR VISUAL AND AUDITORY BLOOD IN THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTY.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE PEOPLE WITH MY VIEWPOINT EVIL OR RACIST OR A CARP BAGGER IS ONE SUPERVISOR POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, POSTING THAT WAS CRUEL AND UNNECESSARY.
SURREY COUNTY HAS A CODE OF ETHICS THAT IS BINDING ON THE SUPERVISORS.
WHEN A SUPERVISOR SAYS A CITIZEN QUOTE, SHE'S NOT EVEN WORTH IT.
THE BOARD HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO ENFORCE ITS CODE.
DITTO DISCREDITING A FELLOW BOARD MEMBER ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
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IF THE COUNTER IS ANOTHER SUPERVISOR HAS BEEN DISRUPTIVE AND UNPROFESSIONAL IN ENFORCE THE CODE OF ETHICS.IT'S THAT SIMPLE, BUT DO SO FOR EVERYONE OR IT'S A CODE FOR NO ONE.
IT'S DISAPPOINTING WHEN WE HAVE A BOARD MEMBER COMMENTING IN THAT WAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WHICH IN A MANNER THAT APPEARS TO BE IN CON CONFLICT WITH OUR CODE OF ETHICS AND OUR CHAIR CHIMES IN JUST TO SAY, MY NAME'S MISSPELLED.
UM, I REALIZE THERE'S A, THERE'S A STANDING TOGETHER AND, UH, WE GOT A, LIKE THE POLICE HAS THEIR THIN BLUE LINE, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT LINE IS ETHICS.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOTTA JOIN US TOGETHER.
UH, MR. CALHOUN MADE A MOTION TO PUSH THESE MEETINGS TO 7:00 PM UH, EXPRESSLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF INCREASING CITIZEN PART PARTICIPATION.
AND THE BOARD MAJORITY STRUCK THAT DOWN, BUT THE OPTICS WERE, YOU DON'T WANT DISSENT HERE.
UM, SO I'VE MADE A POINT OF HOOFING IT OVER HERE.
PERSONALLY, I BELIEVE DIFFERENCES CAN MAKE US STRONGER.
I PREFER FORMER BOARD MEMBER CHAIRMAN'S M SHERLOCK HOLMES PERSPECTIVE QUOTE.
WE DID NOT WANT TO GO FROM BEING THE OPPRESSED TO THE OPPRESSORS, REGARDLESS OF WHO IS DOING THE OPPRESSING.
I BELIEVE WE CAN ALL CHOOSE TO LISTEN TO OUR BETTER ANGELS.
I HOPE THAT WE'LL ALL CHOOSE TO SPEAK TRUTH IN LOVE, CALIBRATING OUR SALES TOWARDS DIGNITY, CIVILITY, ETHICAL CONDUCT, AND KINDNESS.
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FROM PUBLIC COMMENTS TO PRESENTATIONS AND WE ARE THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE MR. CARROLL HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE OUR VDOT QUARTERLY TRANSPORTATION UPDATE.MR. CARROLL, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN ELLIOT, OTHER DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
IT'S NICE TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
UH, THE VDOT QUARTERLY TRANSPORTATION UPDATE IS FOR THE QUARTER FOUR, OCTOBER 1ST, UH, TO DECEMBER 31ST.
UM, I WILL TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS BECAUSE I WAS SCHEDULED FOR THE JANUARY, GOT PUSHED TO FEBRUARY.
SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE GONNA SLIP OUT OF THAT QUARTER JUST BECAUSE WE'VE DONE HERE RECENTLY.
UM, CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER GENERATED WORK REQUEST, UH, IN THAT TIMEFRAME.
UH, WE HAVE CLOSED AND COMPLETED ALL 65 OF THOSE IN THAT QUARTER.
UM, AND THEN VDOT GENERATED WORK ORDER, UM, WE GENERATED 180 OURSELVES.
AND WHEN I SAY THAT IS, UM, EITHER US GOING OUT LOOKING AT PROBLEMS AND FINDING ISSUES, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS OR PLANNED WORK THAT WE PUT INTO OUR WORK ORDER SYSTEM.
UM, WE, WE DID 180 OF THOSE AND, UH, AND WE'RE ABLE TO COMPLETE ALL OF THOSE THAT QUARTER AS WELL.
UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, 245 WORK ORDERS IN OUR SYSTEM AND WE COMPLETED 245 FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLETION RATE FOR FOURTH QUARTER.
A FEW HIGHLIGHTS OF THE MAINTENANCE ACCOMPLISHMENTS, UH, IN THE COUNTY FOR THAT QUARTER.
WE DID END POTHOLE PATCHING ON ROUTE TEN SIX SEVENTEEN, SIX FIFTY SIX OH NINE, SIX THIRTEEN, SIX OH TWO, SIX OH SEVEN, AND 6 26 BEACHLAND ROAD PIECE.
UH, WE DID DITCH WORK ON 6 17 31, 6 26, UH, ROTH COURT, UH, SEXTON ROAD AND LAUREL SPRINGS ROAD, UH, SHOULDER REPAIRS ON ROUTE 6 34 6 50, AND ALSO 6 26 BEAVER DAM ROAD.
UH, WE DID TREE CLEANUP, UH, FROM THE STORMS ON ROUTE 6 34, 6 26 COBO COUM WHARF ROAD.
UH, WE DID SLOW SLOPE MOWING, CUTTING BACK ON ROUTE 6 0 9 AND RAILROAD AVENUE.
UH, WE DID A, A BEACONS CASTLE DITCHING PROJECT THAT, UH, FEEDS INTO THE COMPLETED SMART SCALE PROJECT THERE.
ON, UH, ON, ON ROUTE 10, UH, WE DID BUMP REPAIRS AT BOX CULVERT ON BEAVER DAM ROAD.
UM, AND THAT WAS THE ONE THAT YOU AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT.
UM, WE CLEANED CROSS PIPES AND CONCRETE DITCHES, UH, TREE CONTRACTOR LIMING UP, UH, ROUTES 10 WEST AND 10 EAST, UM, TO IMPROVE SITE DISTANCE AND LOW HANGING LIMBS.
AND, UH, DID SIGN MAINTENANCE ON 10 31 AND 40.
UH, WE DID DO, UH, SINCE THEN SOME, UH, SNOW OPERATIONS, UM, IN THE COUNTY.
AND, UH, AFTER THIS PASSED STORM, LOOKS LIKE WE GOTTA DO SOME MORE POTHOLE OPERATIONS IN THE COUNTY, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S COMING.
UM, SO LOOKING AT OUR PAVING SCHEDULES, OUR RESURFACING SCHEDULES COMING UP FOR THIS SUMMER.
UM, WE HAVE LATEX ON ROUTE 10, UH, WEST,
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UH, BETWEEN PRETTY MUCH THERE AT THE, UH, AREA HEADQUARTERS TO, UH, HOLLY BUSCH ROAD.UH, WE ALSO ARE DOING SOME CAPE SEAL.
CAPE SEAL IS A SURFACE TREATMENT WITH A SLURRY SEAL PUT OVER TOP OF IT.
UM, IT'S REALLY USED FOR, UH, MORE SEVERE CRACKED ROADS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
SO THEY LAST AND SEAL, UH, PRETTY MUCH ALL OF CLAREMONT IS IN THIS.
UM, YOU REMEMBER YEARS PAST WE DID, UH, 6 46 AND THEN LAST YEAR WE DID, UM, CAPTAIN POINT.
UH, WE ARE DOING ALL THE INTERIOR STREETS, UM, OF CLAREMONT IN THAT.
AND WE'RE ALSO DOING ROUTE SIX 11, I THINK.
CLAREMONT THINKS YOU
I, UH, I HAD A MEETING THERE THIS WEEK, UH, RIGHT BEFORE IT STARTED SNOWING THE OTHER DAY.
AND, UH, IT, IT DEFINITELY NEEDS IT.
UM, SO ALSO IS BURNT MILL ROAD, UH, 6 28 AND MAN VENTURA.
UM, THOSE ARE IN THAT AL IN THAT SCHEDULE.
AND THEN, UH, 6 26 11 ON ROAD AND SIX 18 HOLLY BUSH.
AND OH SIX 11 WAS IT TOO, BUT MAYBE THE REST OF THEM APPEAR TO BE, OH, IN LAUREL SPRINGS ROAD 6 0 2.
UM, OTHER, OTHER ONES ARE IN CLAREMONT.
UH, THIS IS A MILLING UP THE EXISTING ASPHALT AND RE PAVING WITH TWO INCHES OVER TOP OF THAT.
UH, THAT IS PRETTY MUCH ALL THE ROADS HERE IN SURREY TOWN OF SURREY.
UM, BANK STREET, SCHOOL STREET, CHURCH STREET, OAK STREET, SALISBURY ROAD, BETON.
THIS PIECE HERE IN TOWN, UM, WILL BE REPAID THIS SUMMER AS WELL.
UM, OUR CONTRACT, PRIMARY AND SECONDARY MOWING AND LITTER REMOVAL.
UM, THAT IS A NEW CONTRACT THIS YEAR, UH, FOR THE COUNTY.
BUT IT WILL, UH, NOTICE PROCEED FOR THE FIRST MOWING WILL BE, UM, APRIL 17TH, UH, WITH A MAY 1ST START DATE.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A SCHEDULE HERE, UH, JUNE 17TH, UH, AUGUST 23RD, AND THEN OCTOBER 30TH, UM, FOR THE FOUR PLAN SCHEDULES FOR PRIMARY MOWING AND LITTER PICK UP IN THE COUNTY.
I'LL TAKE THESE OUT AFTER THIS MEETING.
THE ROUTE 40 BRIDGE IS COMPLETE.
UM, JUST TRYING TO FINALIZE A FEW DEQ PERMITTING THINGS, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE, AND IT'S A BAD TIME OF YEAR FOR STABILIZATION, BUT MAKING SURE ALL, EVERYTHING IS STABILIZED SO WE CAN CLOSE OUT THOSE PERMITS.
AND THE SAME THING OVER ON BACON'S CASTLE.
THAT ROAD, THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE.
UH, WE HAVE A FEW SMALL AREAS THAT WE NEED TO GET SOME, UH, VEGETATION ON, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO CLOSE OUT THAT PERMIT AS WELL.
UM, THE CURRENT, WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR WHERE WE ADD MONEY TO THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN, UH, FOR THE COUNTY.
UH, THE, THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN FUNDING HERE IN THE RECENTLY, UNLESS THE BOARD CHANGES THEIR MIND THIS YEAR, IS TO INSTALL THE SIDEWALKS ALONG BANK STREET, UH, TO PROVIDE CONTINUOUS, UH, PEDESTRIAN FACILITY BETWEEN COLONIAL TRAIL EAST SCHOOL STREET.
AND WE ARE IN THE PRES SCOPING FOR THAT AS WELL.
UM, LAND USE, UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED 16 PLANS, UM, AND WE'VE ISSUED 20 PERMITS AND WE HAVEN'T CLOSED ANY OF THOSE PERMITS THAT WE'VE ISSUED.
UH, I HAVE THREE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STUDIES, UH, SPEED STUDY FOR COMMONWEALTH THAT CHANGED THE SPEED, UM, ON THAT.
AND THAT, I THINK THAT WAS INSTALLED ABOUT JANUARY 2ND.
UM, TWO 30 MILES PER HOUR AND, UH, SCHOOL BUS STOP, A AHEAD SIGN ON WHITE MARSH ROAD THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, AT, UH, AND THAT HAS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN PUT UP YET BECAUSE THAT'S JUST A FAIRLY, FAIRLY NEW STUDY.
UM, AND THEN ROUTE 31, ROUTE 10 OVERLAP.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, EXTEND THE 45 MILE PER HOUR SPEED ZONE.
UM, AS YOU'RE COMING INTO THE TOWN, IT RUNS FROM 55 TO 45 TO 35.
THE 35 IS GONNA BE PUSHED OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT MM-HMM
AND THEN THE 45 IS GONNA BE PUSHED OUT 0.2 MILES PAST 10 WEST, UH, TOWARDS DRAN.
SO YOU WILL ACTUALLY COME INTO THE 45 MILE PER HOUR SPEED ZONE PRIOR TO GETTING TO THE INTERSECTION OF 10 WEST.
BUT WITH THAT, WE'RE ALSO, UH, ADDING SOME SIGNAGE FOR, UM, WATCH RETURN VEHICLES, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS AT THAT INTERSECTION.
UH, I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY COMMENTS OR, UH, OR QUESTIONS.
I APPRECIATE THE THOROUGH REPORT THAT YOU'VE GIVEN, UM, AND, UH, THE, UH, THE UPDATES
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THAT, THAT YOU HAVE AS FAR AS THE SPEED LIMITS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I, I KNOW IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO THE STU OF THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY.THE, UH, ROUTE 6 26 DOWN ON LEBANON ROAD, WHERE WE TALKED, WE TALKED BEFORE.
IS THAT COMPLETED AT THIS TIME? I'LL HAVE TO CHECK.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE AND I HAVEN'T EVEN WRITTEN OVER IT YET.
BUT, UM, I DO KNOW I GET A REPORT THAT THEY HAVE HAD TAKEN THE ASPHALT OUT, TRIED TO SMOOTH IT UP.
THE MOTOR GRATER, AND I THINK THEY HAD PUT SOME ASPHALT BACK OR SOMETHING.
BECAUSE WE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME SPOT.
I, 'CAUSE I, I STILL GET CALLS ON THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? BOARD MEMBERS, MR. CARROLL? I'M SURE YOU'VE BEEN CALLED RECENTLY WHEN I GOT OUT THIS AFTERNOON, UM, COMING FROM, I GUESS HEADING SOUTH ON 31 TO THE STOPLIGHT IN THE TOWN OF SURREY.
UM, ACTUALLY I WAS HEADING HOME GOING OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
THERE'S ABOUT THREE POTHOLES,
UM, I DIDN'T SEE IT THIS MORNING, BUT I SAW IT ON MY WAY IN TONIGHT.
I TEXTED THE, UH, THE SUPERINTENDENT WAS ACTUALLY IN SALEM, BUT I, I TEXTED THE SUPERVISOR.
THEY HAVE IT ON THEIR SCHEDULE FIRST THING.
SUPPOSED TO HAVE, YEAH, THEY'RE FAIRLY, THEY'RE FAIRLY LARGE.
IT'S A MOTHERS I'M IN THE COUNTY.
SOME MORE SNOW SUPPOSED TO BE COMING IN.
NEXT WEEK'S GONNA BE A BUSY ONE.
UH, THANK YOU, UH, MR. CAREFUL FOR YOUR REPORT.
UH, I WANT TO SAY, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, I SEE ON YOUR REPORT YOU MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT THE TREES BEING TRENDED ALONG ROUTE 10 AND, UH, EAST AND WEST.
I TRAVELED THERE A LOT AND I SAW THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT, SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
IF, I DON'T MIND IF I COULD HAVE ASKED FOR YOUR NEXT REPORT, IF POSSIBLE.
MAYBE IT'S LIKE SOME PICTURES, SOME BEFORE AND AFTER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A STRETCH, BUT THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT IS BECAUSE AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO SEE EXACTLY THE, THE WORK THAT'S BEEN BEEN DONE, UM, UH, AS FAR AS THE, AGAIN, THE TREE TRIMMING, IT'S JUST LIKE SMALL, UH, UH, MINOR, MINOR THINGS LIKE THAT.
CITIZENS HAVE MADE MENTION TO ME ABOUT THAT.
SO, AGAIN, I'LL JUST, SO LET ME, LET ME ASK THIS.
I, I MAKE, WE DO A, UM, I HAVE A MONTHLY STAFF MEETING.
AND A PART OF THAT, I, I KEEP SOMETHING CALLED A DASHBOARD MM-HMM
AND PART OF THAT DASHBOARD IS EACH COUNTY OR EACH AREA, UH, GOES THROUGH AND HAS SOME BEFORE AND AFTERS OF SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE THAT THEY'VE DONE IN EACH COUNTY.
THE REASON I SAY I, YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT IT ON THIS 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE BLACK AND WHITE AND YOU'RE REALLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TELL MUCH.
UM, BUT THAT IS A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT WE PUT TOGETHER AND I WOULD BE GLAD TO SHARE SURREY COUNTY'S PIECE OF THAT POWERPOINT.
IF YOU, AND IT'LL SHOW SORT OF THE, IT'S REALLY GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT, UM, THAT I TALK ABOUT THAT WE'VE DONE, UM, THAT THEY HAVE CAPTURED BEFORE.
AND, YOU KNOW, SITE DISTANCE TRIMMING, UH, WASHOUTS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
THEY, THEY COLLECT SOME OF THAT DATA TO PUT INTO THEIR MONTHLY DASHBOARD AND I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS SHARING THAT PIECE OF IT.
UM, I JUST DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET MUCH OUT OF LOOKING AT IT ON THIS REPORT.
NO, I THINK THAT WOULD BE AWESOME, UH, WITH THAT, JUST SHARING THAT.
AGAIN, I, I KNOW SOME OF THE ROADWAYS I, LIKE I SAID, I TRAVEL, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, UM, SOMETIMES I'M, I'M GLAD TO SHARE IT WITH MS. ROLLINS.
AND THEN SHE CAN SHARE IT OUT WITH THE BOARD.
AND, UH, AND ONE, AND ONE LAST THING AS FAR AS I SEE, UH, YOUR PROJECTS AS FAR AS THE REPAIRING ROADS, UM, IS THERE A PLAN IN ACTION FOR, UH, IF I OVERLOOKED IT, I GUESS, UH, WITH LIKE BEACHLAND AND WHITE MARSH IN THAT AREA? SO THE BEACHLAND ROAD, UM, HAS PLANS TO BE REPAVED BY CAVALIER, A ES MM-HMM
THE LAST I HEARD WAS MARCH OF 2025, SO I KNOW THE WEATHER THEY HAD LOOKED AT DOING IT PREVIOUSLY.
UM, BUT THE LAST I HAD, LAST EMAIL I SAW WAS MARCH, 2025 WAS WHAT THEY WERE FOCUSING ON.
WEATHER, I KNOW HAS BEEN A BIG PIECE OF THAT.
AND TEMPERATURES YOU CAN'T REALLY PAVE UNTIL THE TEMPERATURES GET 50 DEGREES.
UM, SO IT, WINTER TIME'S A ROUGH TIME TO DO THAT.
BUT PATCHING WISE, SHOULDER WORK, STUFF OF THAT NATURE, THEY HAVE BEEN GOING OUT AND DOING THAT.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER BOARD COMMENTS? NOT WE.
[Public Hearing]
BOARD MEMBERS IS, UH, OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WOULD BE A ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 2025 DASH ONE PC ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 2024 DASH ZERO TWO.MR. WADE, GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN ELLIOT, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MS. ROLLS, MS. PERKINS AND MR. HARRISON.
SHE STEPPED OUT TONIGHT BEFORE YOU.
WE DO HAVE OUR, UH, SOLAR ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
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UM, AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE, BUT IT WAS IN A DIFFERENT, UH, CHAPTER, UM, COMPLETELY THAN IT, THAN IT'S THE INTENDED USE.SO WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT OF CLEANUP AS WELL AS PRESENTING NEW ARTICLES TO YOU.
UM, THE, THE SOLAR ORDINANCE, UM, IS BREAKING DOWN INTO A COUPLE DIFFERENT PIECES.
UM, WE'RE PLACING, UH, NEW REQUIREMENTS IN THE APPLICATION, ADDING SOME AREAS TO THE PROJECT NARRATIVE, THE CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, COMMUNITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT, TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC CONTROL PLANS, CULTURAL, HISTORIC PLANS, LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING COMMUNITY MEETING REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY ADDING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR THE USE BY, BY REQUIRING A PROJECT LIAISON, INDEPENDENT ENGINEERS A CONSTRUCTION BOND.
UM, TYPICALLY WE'VE BEEN USED WITH, UH, EROSION MENT CONTROL BONDS, UH, VISUAL IMPACTS, ESTABLISHING REQUIRED SETBACKS AS WELL AS BUFFERS, BUT ALSO EVEN WITHIN THOSE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, ALLOWING THE BOARD TO, UM, PROVIDE WAIVERS OR MODIFICATIONS BASED ON THEIR, THEIR ANALYSIS OF THE PROJECT.
UM, IF THEY FELT AS THOUGH THERE WAS A GOOD PROJECT THAT THAT COULD USE LESSER REQUIREMENTS IN THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
FOR EXAMPLE, UH, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS A BUFFER AND ALSO A SETBACK OF 300 FEET AWAY FROM A, UH, PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR PROPERTY LINES.
UM, THIS ANOTHER SECTION ALLOWS THE BOARD TO PROVIDE A MODIFICATION OR A WAIVER TO THAT REQUIREMENT.
SO AS IF IT'S, IF IT'S A GOOD PROJECT, THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD COULD CONSIDER, UM, WITH, WITHOUT, UM, TURNING AWAY A GOOD PROJECT.
UM, SO THERE'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE, THAT THE, THE BOARD HAS ABILITY TO DO THAT WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE.
UM, IT ALSO DEFINES A COUPLE NEW USES.
UM, THE COMMUNITY SCALE ENERGY FACILITY, UM, THAT'S, UH, UH, SOME OF THE SMALLER PROJECTS.
AND THEN THE UTILITY SCALE, ENGINE ENGINE, UH, ENERGY, UH, UH, FACILITY THAT IS SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAT, THAT WE'RE TYPICALLY USED TO.
THOSE ARE FIVE MEGAWATTS AND ABOVE.
UM, AND THEN WE LOOK AT, UH, TO ADD A DISTRIBUTED, UH, SOLAR ENERGY FACILITY.
THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE, UH, MOSTLY HERE IN SURREY COUNTY AT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT WE MAY HAVE ON OUR ROOFS OR OUT IN, OUT IN OUR, UM, OUT IN OUR YARDS.
UH, WE'VE DEFINED THAT, UM, AND DEFINED THAT AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
NOT HAVING TO ACQUIRE REQUIRE ANY TYPE OF CONDITIONAL USE.
BUT THESE USES, SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE, UM, REQUIRES A RE A ZONING OF M1 OR M TWO FOR THE COMMUNITY SCALE ENERGY FACILITY AND UTILITY SCALE SOLAR ENERGY FACILITY, ALONG WITH A APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE TONIGHT.
UM, YOUR ORDERS THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE, YOU, UM, WE'LL SHOW YOUR, YOUR BEGINNING TEXT THAT, UH, THE SOLAR ORDINANCE HAS A, A LIMIT OF 7% OF LAND BY PARCEL, UM, TO BE USED FOR SOLAR.
UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO STATED THAT WE WOULD HAVE 10%, BUT NO MORE THAN 10%.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LEADS US TO, TO DEFINE AND WHAT WE DO WITH OUR ORDINANCES.
AGAIN, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, WAS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE REQUIRED TO HAVE BY LAW.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS A TOOL TO, TO, UH, THAT WE'RE USING.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS APPROVED BY YOU ALL AS THE BOARD, UM, IN 2023.
AND THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS TIME IS IMPLEMENTING THAT AND MAKING AMENDMENTS TO THE, TO THE SOLAR OR ENERGY ORDINANCE AND IMPLEMENT AN ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ATIVE PLAN.
SO BEFORE TONIGHT, WE DO HAVE, UM, SOME AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, UM, FOR, FOR THIS, UM, PROJECT.
I THINK THAT THE VOTE WHEN THAT WAS 10, 10 TO ZERO, UM, FOR THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
UM, WE HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH AND WORKED THROUGH THIS IN DETAIL, UM, TO GET OVER, UM, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, WHAT WAS PRESENTED AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT VISION THAT THE PUBLIC BROUGHT TO US WHEN WE WORKED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT THOSE THINGS AND, AND ITEMS THAT WE FELT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED, WERE ADDRESSED IN, IN THE ORDINANCE.
UM, SO BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, UH, WE DO HAVE THE ORDINANCE IN YOUR PACKET IF YOU, UH, HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE.
UH, AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN REFERENCE TO OUR AMENDMENT TO OUR ORDINANCE 20 25 0 1.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF, IF I MAY, BEFORE WE BEGIN PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, ONE ADDITIONAL NOTATION, UM, THAT YOU WILL SEE IN YOUR MATERIALS IS THAT, UM, THERE HAS BEEN A RECOMMENDATION FROM MR. WADE AND I CONCUR IN THAT RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO, TO, UM, INCLUDE A GRANDFATHERING PROVISION.
UM, WHEN THE ORDINANCE IS ENACTED, YOU ALL ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO SO.
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BEST PLANNING PRACTICES, UM, AND MR. WAKIN SPEAK MORE TO THIS, UH, WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, UM, WHEN AN ORDINANCE IS, A NEW ORDINANCE IS BEING ENACTED TO UPDATE AN EXISTING ORDINANCE BECAUSE THERE, UM, WE DO HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE HOPPER RIGHT NOW.UM, IT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED THAT FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY, UM, A GRANDFATHERING PROVISION BE INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, OR NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, BUT AT LEAST HAVING THAT DISCUSSION WILL PROVIDE CLARITY FOR, UH, STAFF AND FOR APPLICANTS WHO, AGAIN, HAVE PROJECTS IN THE MIDST.
MR. WADE, YOU WANNA SPEAK ON THAT BRIEFLY? SURE.
SO A LOT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS, UM, WITH THE, THE GRAND FINAL LANGUAGE, UM, THERE ARE OTHER LOCALITIES WHO ACTUALLY HAVE SOME ITEMS. SOME OF THESE PIECES OF ITEMS ARE ARTICLES DEFINED WITHIN THEIR ZONING ORDINANCES.
SO WHEN THEY GO THROUGH AND, AND MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR ORDINANCE WHEN THEY HAVE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS IN PLACE, IT ALLOWS THE BOARD TO ACTUALLY MAKE CONSIDERATION FOR THOSE PROJECTS THAT MAY ALREADY BE WORKING THROUGH THE, THE APPLICATION PROCESS OR THE ACTUAL PERMITTED OR THE USES.
UM, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DO HAVE ONE PROJECT THAT THEIR APPLICATION HAS BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE APPLICATION FOR A YEAR BEFORE WE EVEN STARTED WORKING ON THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE SECTION.
SO BEING ABLE TO ALLOW, UM, THAT GRANDFATHERING LANGUAGE AND THEY WOULD, WOULD PERMIT THAT PROJECT TO FOLLOW THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION POINT.
UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOT, UH, CONSIDER GRANDFATHERING LANGUAGE BECAUSE THAT, THAT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR, FOR THEM TO CONSIDER.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE GOV YOU ALL AS THE GOVERNING BODY, UM, WOULD AGAIN, BE ABLE TO RECOMMEND INCLUDING IT WOULD BE INCLUDED AS AN ENACTMENT CLAUSE.
UM, AND, AND AGAIN, THAT LANGUAGE IS IN, IS IN YOUR AGENDA MATERIALS.
UM, AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO REVIEW IT IN MORE, IN MORE DETAIL, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, TO CLARIFY THAT AS MR. WADE SAID, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENTS TO THE SOLAR ORDINANCE BY A, UM, A 10 ZERO VOTE.
UH, BUT THEY DID NOT CONSIDER THAT GRANDFATHERING PROVISION.
AT THIS TIME, WE OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN REFERENCE TO OUR SOLAR ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
STATE YOUR NAME AND JURISDICTION AND HISTORY.
UH, DIANE CHEEK FROM MISSOURI DISTRICT, UH, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY TO DEVELOP THIS ORDINANCE THAT PROVIDES A MUCH IMPROVED REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SOLAR PROJECTS IN OUR COUNTY.
AND, UM, THE ORDINANCE HELPS COMPANIES THAT ARE COMING TO US TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH US.
FROM THE INFORMATION THAT'S IN THIS ORDINANCE, ALSO, IT BETTER REPRESENTS THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE HERE.
SO I BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE HELPS BOTH SIDES.
AND SO THEREFORE, I ENCOURAGE YOU, UM, TO TAKE THE PLANNING, UH, COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO APPROVE THIS UPDATED ORDINANCE.
THERE BE ANOTHER, THERE'D BE NO OTHER.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.
I'M A ALL WHITE CITIZEN, BUT PROPERTY OWNER IN SUR COUNTY.
BUT I, I JUST LIKE TO, FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER, YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAD LEGISLATION PROPOSED, BUT IT WAS DEFEATED WHERE THEY WOULD NEGATE LOCALITY CONTROL OF ANY FUTURE SOLAR.
YOU, YOU DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, LOSE THAT YOU, I KNOW OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED CONTROL OF IT TO APPEASE YOUR CITIZENS TO, TO BENEFIT THE COUNTY.
YOU DON'T WANT THE STATE COMING IN AND TELLING YOU WHAT YOU KNOW.
AND AS THE ENERGY GRID IS CONTINUALLY GETTING CLOSER TO MAX CAPACITY, ALL MORE AND MORE, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE COULD BE AN ISSUE IF THE STATE HAS CONTROL, WE SEE IN THE MAIN PLAYING A FACTOR OF, YOU KNOW, THE STATE COMING IN AND YOU KNOW, THE STATE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, Y'ALL DEAL WITH IT MORE THAN I DO.
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DON'T APPROPRIATE ANY MONEY FOR IT OR ANYTHING THAT, AND JUST CONSTANTLY FORCE YOUR HAND ON STUFF.AND WE, WE JUST DON'T NEED TO SEE THAT AS, YOU KNOW, JUST, I URGE Y'ALL TO BE CONSIDERATE OF, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH BOTH SIDES OR PROPOSED ENERGY PEOPLE AND THE CITIZENS OF COURSE.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME'S, UH, BLAKE COX.
I'M WITH ENERGY, RIGHT? UH, WHERE OUR WHOLE GOAL IS TO HELP, UH, RURAL COMMUNITIES NAVIGATE THIS CLEAN ENERGY TRANSITION.
UM, REALLY I THINK THIS IS LARGELY A, A REALLY GOOD ORDINANCE AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE REALLY HARD WORK FROM STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL.
MY MAIN COMMENT WAS GONNA BE ON THE 300 FOOT SETBACKS.
UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT'S HINDERING TO A SMALL LANDOWNER THAT I'D BE INTERESTED IN DOING A PROJECT AND COULD X THEM OUT FROM HAVING THAT POSSIBILITY.
IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, YOU SAID THERE'S THE ABILITY FOR A MODIFICATION IN THAT.
SO THAT WAS JUST GONNA BE MY REQUEST IS TO REQUIRE VARIANCE IN THERE, IN THERE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO START AT ONE 50 AND MAYBE GO UP TO 300, YOU KNOW, AND KIND THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, BUT, SO I THINK THAT'S A, A FAIR, FAIR POINT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO.
MY NAME IS TARA PASO AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE Y'ALL AGAIN.
I, UM, JUST WANT TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CLEAN ENERGY DEVELOPMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NOT HINDERED HERE IN SURREY COUNTY.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT THE BOARD WILL NOT HINDER CLEAN ENERGY DEVELOPMENT IN VIRGINIA BY DENYING CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.
UM, BASED ON AN ARBITRARY CAP THAT WE'VE SEEN HERE.
THE CURRENT TOTAL NUMBER OF ACRES THAT ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED FOR SURREY COUNTY IS APPROXIMATELY 6%.
AND THE PROPOSED ENERGY ORDINANCE STATES THAT THE LAND USE CAP SHALL BE NO MORE THAN 7%.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, THAT ALMOST MAKES THIS IMPOSSIBLE FOR FOLKS TO DEVELOP SURREY MOVING FOR, UM, TO DEVELOP SOLAR AND SURREY MOVING FORWARD.
SO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENT NOTES THAT LAND CALCULATION FOR THE PROPOSED CAP IS BASED ON THE ENTIRE ACREAGE FOR PARCELS SEEKING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THIS FURTHER CONTRIBUTES TO THE DIFFICULTY OF ESTABLISHING A PROJECT WITHIN THAT ACREAGE CAP.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE ARBITRARY CAP, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO MENTION THAT THE COUNTY SETBACK LANGUAGE AND THE VEGETATIVE BUFFER ARE MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE AND THE COUNTY SURREY'S PROPOSING A 300 FOOT SETBACK.
TYPICAL AND REASONABLE SETBACKS THAT WE SEE THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY ARE AROUND 150.
THIS, AGAIN, DENIES THE ABILITY FOR THE COUNTY TO BENEFIT FROM FUTURE RENEWABLE DEVELOPMENT AND WELL PLANNED AND THOUGHT OUT SOLAR PROJECTS.
ALSO, THIS IS PROPOSING A 300 FOOT WIDE VEGETATIVE BUFFER WITH FOUR ROWS OF STAGGERED EVERGREENS WITHOUT, UM, THE PROJECT PERIMETER.
AND WE WOULD SEE THAT THAT WOULD BE VERY COST PROHIBITIVE FOR ANY SOLAR COMPANY AND DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND DO SO.
IN LIEU OF THIS REQUIREMENT, WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE COUNTY CONSIDER ADOPTING LANGUAGE, ALLOWING DEVELOPERS TO SUBMIT A THIRD PARTY VIEW SHED MITIGATION PLAN, WHICH WE'RE SEEING HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
VIRGINIA NEEDS MORE SOLAR, WE NEED MORE WIND, WE NEED MORE BATTERY STORAGE TO SATISFY THE VIRGINIA CLEAN ECONOMY ACT.
SIMPLY PUT, WE NEED TO GENERATE MORE POWER TO KEEP UP WITH OUR DEMAND OR WE RISK CREATING THE SAME PROBLEMS WITH GRID RELIABILITY THAT OTHER STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE FACING RIGHT NOW.
IN CONCLUSION, AS LEADERS OF SURREY COUNTY, YOU SEE THE INEVITABLE GROWTH OF INTER BASED, UM, INTERNET BASED SERVICES OF AI AND THE NEED TO COMPLY WITH THE CLEAN ECONOMY ACT.
ALL OF THESE FACTORS DEPEND ON THE SAME THING.
THE WILLINGNESS OF RURAL COUNTIES LIKE SURREY TO ACCEPT THIS AND APPROVE RENEWABLE SOLAR ENERGY PROJECTS.
I HOPE THAT THIS BODY WILL CHOOSE NOT TO LOWER THE SOLAR CAP AND USE THEIR AUTHORITY TO ACCEPT OR REJECT PROJECTS ON THEIR MERIT, NOT NECESSARILY THE CAP.
EVERY TIME WE DICTATE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL ANSWER FOR THE AREA WE LOSE.
AND AGAIN, I THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
JUST WANNA RESPOND TO THE TERM ARBITRARY CAP.
A 7% CAP ON SOLAR AND SURREY COUNTY IS AN ARBITRARY CAP.
10% IS AN ARBITRARY CAP, 20%, 50%, 80%, 99%.
THEY'RE ALL ARBITRARY CAPS, BUT THEY'RE BASED ON A DESIRE
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TO PROTECT SURREY COUNTY.AND SO I WANNA THANK A HORSE, I WANNA THANK THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I WANNA THANK THIS BOARD.
SOMETHING I DON'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO ENOUGH OF FOR PROTECTING THE CITIZENS AND PROTECTING THE RURAL CHARACTER OF SURREY COUNTY AND DEFENDING OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 2040.
WE WILL NOW CLOSE OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS FROM BOARDS, UH, MEMBERS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO AT THIS TIME, NO COMMENT BY BOARD MEMBERS.
WE WILL ASK IF THERE ARE ANY CLOSING REMARKS FROM STAFF.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
I JUST, I JUST APPRECIATE THE WORK FOR WITH OUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, UM, FOR, FOR HELPING BRING THIS ALONG TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UH, BOARD MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, UH, WOULD THERE BE A MOTION ON THE AMENDMENT TO, UH, OUR SOLAR ORDINANCE 2025 DASH ONE? MR. MR. CHAIR? MR. PIERCE? I DO APOLOGIZE.
I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION BEFORE WE MAKE THE MOTION.
YES, MR. PIERCE, LET'S GOING BACK TO THE, UH, I DO APOLOGIZE AGAIN ABOUT THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE.
HOW, UH, MR. WADE, IF YOU MIND, MR. YES SIR.
SO HOW MANY, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE, UH, BEING WITH THE NEW ORDINANCE, WHATEVER, UM, COMPANY OR BUSINESSES IS ALREADY, UH, GOING WITH THE OLD ORDINANCE THAT WILL REMAIN WITH THAT.
HOW MANY DO WE HAVE CURRENTLY? SO, SO WE HAVE ONE APPLICATION PENDING, BUT IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE OTHER PREVIOUS PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THAT CAME IN DURING THAT TIMEFRAME BETWEEN I THINK IT WAS 2018 TO NOW, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ABIDE BY SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS, THAT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE, THE PREVIOUS PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED, FOR EXAMPLE, CAVALIER, THAT WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED AFTER THAT.
I THINK THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER ONE, SPRING GROVE TWO MM-HMM
THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2020, I THINK.
AND THAT, THAT WAS, THAT'S, THAT IS ON THE, ON THE, UM, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF ROUTE 10.
UM, SO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, THEY, THEIR DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS ARE WITH THAT ORDINANCE THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE, THEIR, THAT LANGUAGE WOULD KEEP THAT LANGUAGE THERE NOT, AND NOT CONFUSE A, A FUTURE BODY OR SOMEONE ELSE IN MY SEAT TO REQUIRE NEW STANDARDS FOR SOMETHING.
THEY WEREN'T, IT WASN'T INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED BY.
SO, SO IT'S, IT, IT, IT IS HELPING THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY, ALREADY BEEN APPROVED EVEN BY SITE PLAN, INCLUDING THE ONES THAT RIGHT NOW THAT ARE STILL IN, IN THE QUOTE IN THE, IN THE HOPPER.
AND SO IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY HAVE ONE PENDING AND TWO, CURRENTLY IN THE TWO, TWO LARGER ONES THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN, THAT HAVE BEEN, BUT ONE, ONE ANOTHER, ANOTHER ONE THAT'S PENDING, UM, CEP APPROVAL.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, IF, IF I COULD ADD TO MR. WADE'S EXPLANATION, UM, THE, UH, THE LANGUAGE, THE GRANDFATHERING LANGUAGE HA HA STATES SPECIFICALLY THAT, UM, IT, THE GRANDFATHERING IS PROVIDED THE APPLICANT DOES NOT AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE, WHICH WOULD BE THE, THE DATE THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS ARE ADOPTED, INCREASE THE LAND AREA SUBJECT TO SUCH APPLICATION OR MODIFY THE USE CONTAINED IN THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION.
SO LET'S SAY THE SPRING GROVE PROJECT, UM, WANTED TO EXPAND THEIR OPERATIONS INTO ANOTHER PARCEL.
I'M NOT THAT, THAT, THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IMAGINARY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
UM, THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A NEW PROJECT THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, AND BE SUBJECT TO THE NEW ORDINANCE AS, AS AMENDED IF THAT, THAT IS WHAT THE BOARD WISHES TO DO.
UH, AT THIS TIME, CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MR. CHAIR.
MR. PIERCE, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 2025 DASH OH ONE DASH PC ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 2024 DASH OH TWO.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MR. MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.
WITH THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE? YES.
UM, I, I MOVED THAT WE, UM, APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE ALONG WITH THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE.
AND SECOND WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
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MR. PIERCE? YES.MR. CALHOUN? YES, MY VOTE WILL BE YES.
WE'RE MOVED NOW TO OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WOULD BE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 2024 DASH ONE.
SO BEFORE YOU, TONIGHT IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FROM SYCAMORE CROSS SOLAR.
IT IS A 19 MEGAWATTS, UH, LARGE SCALE SOLAR ENERGY FACILITY.
SO ON SIX PARCELS, UM, OF LAND THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY, UH, ZONED, M1 FOR CAVALIER, WHICH YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, WITH CAVALIER SOLAR.
OF THOSE SIX PARCELS, THREE OF THEM ARE OF THOSE WHICH HAVE SOLAR PANELS AND THREE OF THE OTHERS HAVE, ARE CONNECT CONNECTING THEM WITH, UH, WITH LINES TO, TO, UH, TO GET TO EACH OTHER.
UM, THIS IS THE, A LAYOUT OF, OF THAT PARTICULAR LAND FOR SYCAMORE SYCAMORE CROSS WITH THE TEXT, WITH THE TAX PARCELS AND SEE HOW THEY ALIGNED AT THIS POINT TO CONNECT TO EACH OTHER.
UM, THE LARGER PART OF, UH, SYCAMORE CROSS, UM, IS THAT THE 1919 MEGAWATTS IS, UH, FOR, FOR IN SURREY COUNTY AND THE OTHER EMITTING 240.
UM, THE OTHER, THE, THE, THE EXTENT OF THE 240 TOTAL MEGAWATTS IS IN ALL OF WHITE COUNTY.
THIS IS ANOTHER OF VIEW OF, OF THOSE PANELS BEING LAID OUT OVER SYCAMORE CROSS, UM, AND THE, AND THE LINES THAT CON THAT CONNECT THEM SETBACKS FOR, FOR, UH, FOR THESE, THIS PROJECT IS A MINIMUM SETBACK FOR INVERTERS IS 500 FEET MINIMUM SETBACK FOR FROM RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE IS 750 FEET.
THE BUFFERING HERE, UM, IS 50 FEET.
UM, IF AGAIN BY THE 2018 ORDINANCE, IT, THE BUFFERING THAT WAS IN PLACE WAS ABOUT 15 FEET.
UM, SO THE, THEY ARE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE 2018 ORDINANCE REQUIRES.
UM, SO THE PROJECT WILL COMPLY WITH THEIR PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.
IT CONTAINS THE SITE DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, LIKE, LIKE I PROVIDES ADDITIONAL BUFFER STANDARDS, TRAFFIC AND CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS PER THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE.
AND HERE'S SOME OF JUST THE STAFF COMMENTS AND, AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE NOTED.
SETBACKS AND PROFFERS ARE GREATER THAN M1 ZONING STANDARDS.
IT MITIGATES THE PROJECT'S IMPACTS AND BENEFITS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IT'S LOCATED ON A SITE PREVIOUSLY CONTEMPLATED FOR SOLAR DEVELOPMENT.
MOST OF THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC FOR THE PROJECT WILL TAKE PLACE IN OLIVE OF WHITE DECOMMISSIONING HAS IMPROVED WITH RECENT AMENDMENT OF THE, OF THE CP CONDITIONS.
THE WEAKNESSES THAT WERE PRESENTED BEFORE US WERE, UM, THAT THE STORMWATER WAS NOT ADDRESSING PANELS AS IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
UM, AND, UH, I, I THINK THAT 'CAUSE OF THEIR, BECAUSE OF THEIR PJM CONNECTION DATE, THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DO THAT WITH DEQ.
BUT SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REQUESTED THEM TO DO.
UM, PER OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS, IS TO SEEK THAT.
UM, THERE ARE THREE CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCES AND THERE NO CONSTRUCTION, NO CONDITIONS ON HOW CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC WILL ACCESS THE SITES REGIONALLY JUST YET.
UM, TYPICALLY THAT'S NOT PRESENTED UNTIL, UM, WE GET THROUGH THE, UM, THE DEVELOPING THOSE SITE PLAN.
UM, WE DID HAVE A FIVE TO FOUR VOTE IN FAVOR FOR THE PROJECT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
FIVE, FOUR, THE PROJECT FOUR AGAINST THE PROJECT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND DO, IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, I'M HERE FOR THAT.
AND ALSO WE DO HAVE A, WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT AS WELL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS OF MR. WADE? UH, MR. MR. WADE TO CONFER WITH LEGAL COUNSEL? UH, WE CAN COMBINE THESE, THE CUP AND THE SITE AGREEMENT.
SO WE CAN DO ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, AND DO YOU WANT THE APPLICANT COME UP HERE TO YES.
THE APPLICANT SHOULD MAKE A PRESENTATION.
WHY IS THAT NOT WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
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GIVE YOU A SECOND TO MM-HMMMEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, MS. HARRELL, WELCOME STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION.
I'M GREG CRESSWELL, SENIOR DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR A ES.
THERE ARE THREE PILLARS ON WHICH THE SYCAMORE CROSS PROJECT CAN STAND AND BE SUPPORTED.
FIRST, THE PROJECT IS WELL CITED.
IT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF DENSE EXISTING VEGETATION THAT WILL FULLY SCREEN ARRAY AREAS FROM PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY WHILE AT THE SAME TIME MAKING USE OF EXISTING ZONING AND EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.
SECOND, A ES IS AN OWNER OPERATOR OF ITS FACILITIES.
THIS PROJECT WILL BE DESIGNED, BUILT, AND OPERATED BY ONE COMPANY BENEFITING FROM NATIONAL AND FROM LOCAL EXPERIENCE.
AND THIRD, SYCAMORE CROSS SOLAR WILL PROVIDE $4.1 MILLION IN REVENUE TO THE COUNTY.
THIS REVENUE CAN BE USED AS THE COUNTY SEES BEST TO BOLSTER SIRI'S QUALITY OF LIFE THROUGH IMPROVEMENTS TO SCHOOLS, EMERGENCY SERVICES, OR BY ADVANCING PROJECTS ALREADY IDENTIFIED IN THE COUNTY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN.
A ES IS A FORTUNE 500 COMPANY AND WE'RE HEADQUARTERED IN ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA.
OUR CLEAN ENERGY DIVISION HAS ITS PJM REGIONAL OFFICE IN RICHMOND.
THIS OFFICE SUPPORTS APPROXIMATELY 40 EMPLOYEES AND OVER 900 MEGAWATTS OF OPERATIONAL FACILITIES.
PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF A ES TO SURREY COUNTY IS THAT WE ARE THE OWNER OPERATOR OF THOSE FACILITIES.
AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THAT MEANS THAT SURREY COUNTY ONLY DEALS WITH ONE COMPANY FROM DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT AND INTO THE OPERATIONS.
THIS OWNER OPERATOR ROLE HAS ALLOWED US TO LEARN FROM OUR EXPERIENCES IN DEVELOPING THE CAVALIER PROJECT IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND TO PUT THOSE LESSONS LEARNED INTO EFFECT ON THE SYCAMORE CROSS PROJECT.
LET'S PIVOT TO THE PROJECT DETAILS.
SYCAMORE CROSS IS A 240 MEGAWATT SOLAR FACILITY.
IT'S LOCATED IN SURREY AND ISLE OF WHITE WITHIN SURREY, THE PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY 19 MEGAWATTS ON 125 FENCED ACRES.
THAT'S ONLY 10% OF THE ENTIRETY OF THIS PROJECT.
THE A A S TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY STAFF SINCE EARLY 2023 THROUGH OUR APPLICATION REVIEW, THROUGH MULTIPLE WORK SESSIONS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THROUGH MEETINGS WITH THE ZONING SUBCOMMITTEE, AND THROUGH A WORK SESSION WITH THIS VERY BOARD IN DECEMBER, SYCAMORE CROSS, I BELIEVE, WAS THE FIRST SOLAR PROJECT IN SURREY COUNTY TO RECEIVE A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IN ADDITION TO OUR EFFORTS WITH SURREY COUNTY, THIS PROJECT IS SEEN ANALYSIS BY NUMEROUS OTHER GROUPS.
TO DATE, WE'VE RECEIVED A STATE PERMIT KNOWN AS OUR CPCN FROM THE STATE CORPORATION COMMISSION.
WE'VE RECEIVED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR MILE OF WHITE.
WE HAVE AN EXECUTED INTERCONNECTION AGREEMENT WITH PJM AND WE HAVE A POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
NEXT, I'D LIKE TO REVIEW THE SUR PORTION OF THE PROJECTS IN DETAIL.
THIS FIRST FOCUS AREA SHOWS THE PROPOSED ARRAY ALONG THE MILL SWAMP ROAD TO THE FAR WESTERN END OF THE PROJECT.
IT REPRESENTS ROUGHLY 90 ACRES WITHIN THE FENCE AND 12 MEGAWATTS.
THE BLUE ARROW SHOWN ON THE AERIAL REPRESENTS THE DIRECTION FACED IN THE PICTURE SHOWN IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
THIS IS AN IMAGE ALONG MILL SWAMP ROAD FACING NORTH.
PLEASE NOTE THE FULLNESS OF THE VEGETATION ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.
WITH THIS VEGETATION REMAINING IN PLACE, THE PROJECT WILL BE FULLY SCREENED USING OUR 50 FOOT BUFFER.
THIS NEXT FOCUS AREA SHOWS THE ARRAY LOCATED AT THE NORTHERN END OF MULLET DRIVE.
THIS AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 15 ACRES WITHIN THE FENCE AND THREE MEGAWATTS.
AGAIN, THE BLUE ARROW DEPICTS THE DIRECTION OF THE IMAGERY.
A ROW OF MATURE HARDWOODS CAN BE SEEN IN THE DISTANCE IN THIS IMAGE, AND IS SHOWN AS A HORSESHOE SHAPED TREE LINE IN THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH.
ADDITIONALLY, A BUFFER OF PINE TREES EXISTS BEHIND THE ROW OF HARDWOODS, AGAIN, ADDING TO THE EFFECTIVENESS OF A NATURAL SCREENING.
THIS FINAL FOCUS AREA SHOWS THE ARRAY ALONG BEACHLAND ROAD.
THIS AREA, AGAIN, IS APPROXIMATELY 15 ACRES WITHIN THE FENCE
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AND FOUR MEGAWATTS LIKE THE TWO PRIOR ARRAYS.THIS ARRAY WILL BENEFIT FROM BEING SCREENED BY EXISTING NATURAL VEGETATION.
AND AGAIN, THE IMAGE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT SHOWS THE FULLNESS OF THE VEGETATION ALONG BEACHLAND ROAD.
AS PART OF OUR PROJECT DEVELOPMENT, A ES HAS MADE EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
OUR TEAM HAS VISITED OVER 800 HOMES IN THE AREA, WHICH LED TO 354 INTERACTIONS.
WE'VE HELD FOUR OPEN HOUSES WITH TWO OF THESE TAKING PLACE IN SURREY COUNTY.
ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE BEEN GATHERING FEEDBACK FROM OUR VARIOUS HEARINGS AND WORK SESSIONS, WHICH HAVE TAKEN PLACE OVER THE LAST YEAR.
SO WITH 900 MEGAWATTS IN VIRGINIA, WITH A S'S EXPERIENCES OVER 400 FACILITIES NATIONWIDE THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CAVALIER PROJECT AND THROUGH OUR SYCAMORE CROSS OUTREACH TEAM, WHAT ARE THE LESSONS THAT WE'VE LEARNED? FIRST AND FOREMOST, A ES MUST IMPROVE THE MANAGEMENT OF ITS CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC.
SECOND, A ES MUST UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THAT THE RURAL AESTHETIC AND THE LIFESTYLE ARE WHAT HAVE DRAWN MANY OF THE RESIDENTS TO THIS AREA.
THIRD, SURREY COUNTY IS MAKING A CONTINUOUS EFFORT TO EVOLVE, AND WE MUST ADOPT OUR PROJECTS TO MEET WITH THAT EVOLUTION.
AND FOURTH, THE BENEFITS FROM SOLAR PROJECTS MUST BE IMPACTFUL TO THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH THEY ARE LOCATED.
SO A ES HAS TAKEN THE FEEDBACK, WE'VE PROCESSED THE CONVERSATIONS, AND NOW WE MUST GENERATE ACTIONABLE ITEMS TO IMPLEMENT THESE LESSONS.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES TO TALK THROUGH HOW WE PLAN TO IMPLEMENT THESE LESSONS LEARNED INTO THOSE ACTIONABLE ITEMS. FOR THE SYCAMORE CROSS PROJECT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT SYCAMORE CROSS IS THE INVERSE OF THE CAVALIER PROJECT.
INSTEAD OF TRAFFIC COMING FROM ROUTE 10 AND SOUTH DOWN WHITE MARSH ROAD, AS IT DID WITH CAVALIER TRAFFIC WILL COME UP FOUR 60 USING PROCTOR'S BRIDGE ROAD AND IN OF WHITE.
INSTEAD OF THE MAJORITY OF THIS PROJECT BEING BUILT IN SURREY COUNTY, 90% OF THIS PROJECT WILL BE BUILT IN ISLE OF WHITE.
NONE OF THIS MATTERS IF OUR CONTRACTORS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE AND WE ARE NOT ACCOUNTABLE.
SO WE ENACT FOUR MAIN STRATEGIES TO CREATE AN ENHANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, ENSURING THE RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WE WILL COMPLETE CON PRE-CONSTRUCTION ROAD IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS REINFORCING SHOULDERS AND INTERSECTIONS TO MAKE CERTAIN ROAD CONDITIONS DO NOT BECOME A CHALLENGE TO LOCAL COMMUTES.
WE WILL USE THIRD PARTY ENFORCEMENT AS A PLAN ALONG WITH THE COMMUNITY LIAISON TO ENSURE THAT NEIGHBORS HAVE CLEAR PATHS FOR COMMUNICATING WITH THE PROJECT TEAM.
WE WILL ENACT CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC RESTRICTIONS ALONG THE SWAMP ROAD, AND WE WILL ENSURE ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH A PROPOSED CONDITION, WHICH INCLUDES FINANCIAL PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN TO IMPLEMENT THE ROYAL AESTHETIC AND LIFESTYLE.
WITH THE SYCAMORE CROSS PROJECT, A ES WILL KEEP THE EXISTING AESTHETIC BY LEAVING THE VEGETATION IN PLACE, AS I'VE ALREADY SHOWN YOU TO PROVIDE NATURAL SCREENING.
SECONDLY, A ES WILL MAKE A COMMITMENT TO AGRICULTURE BY USING ROTATIONAL SHEEP GRAZING AND HARVESTING GROUND COVER WITHIN THE ARRAYS, WHICH CAN BE USED FOR SHEEP OR FOR LOCAL LIVESTOCK.
TO IMPLEMENT OUR THIRD LESSON LEARNED, SYCAMORE CROSS IS EVOLVING WITH THE COUNTY'S REQUIREMENTS FOR ENERGY FACILITIES.
WE BEGAN DEVELOPING THIS PROJECT IN THE SUMMER OF 22 BEFORE WE EVEN BROUGHT THIS BEFORE MR. WADE IN 2023.
WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IN PLACE, OR THE PRIOR OR CURRENT ORDINANCE,
SINCE THAT TIME, SURRY HAS AMENDED ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IS IN THE PROCESS, OR HAS THIS EVENING AMENDED ITS ORDINANCE TO MATCH.
REVISIONS TO THE ORDINANCE FALL INTO TWO CATEGORIES, THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SIMPLY APPLICATION MATERIALS AND THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE PERFORMANCE BASED RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATIONS.
A ES HAS RECENTLY SUBMITTED SUPPLEMENTAL APPLICATION MATERIAL TO MR. WADE, SUCH AS OUR EVIDENCE OF INTERCONNECTION REQUEST, ADDITIONAL DESCRIPTION OF SITE ACCESS POINTS AND PROJECT ROADS, AND THE INCLUSION OF A US DEPARTMENT OF AG SOIL SURVEY TO ADDRESS REVISIONS TO ITEMS SUCH AS PERFORM THAT ARE PERFORMANCE BASED.
A S HAS BEEN REVISING ITS PROPOSED CONDITIONS SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE ENERGY AMENDMENT TO THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE MOST RECENTLY ADDED TWO NEW CONDITIONS IN RESPONSE TO DISCUSSIONS IN JANUARY'S WORK SESSION WITH THE BOARD.
COUNTY STAFF HAD SUPPLIED A CHART DETAILING SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENCES IN OUR PROPOSED CONDITIONS AS COMPARED TO THE REVISIONS IN THE NEW ORDINANCE.
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HAVE MET WITH THE REVISIONS AND THEIR INTENT.THAT COMPLETE CHART WAS SUPPLIED TO EACH OF YOU IN THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING'S HEARING, AND I BELIEVE MADE PUBLIC ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE.
ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT ALL OF THE EFFORT TO WORK WITH STAFF AND TO MAKE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR PROJECT HAS LED TO A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF.
HERE ARE JUST A FEW WAYS WE'RE IMPROVING TO MEET THE NEW ORDINANCE.
HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION HAVE BEEN REDUCED EVEN FURTHER IN OUR PROPOSED CONDITION THAN WHAT IS IN THE REVISION TO THE ORDINANCE, AND SHALL INCLUDE NO WORK ON SUNDAYS.
THE REQUIREMENT FOR OPAQUE BUFFER SHALL BE ACHIEVED USING THE EXISTING VEGETATION.
AND WHEN DETERMINED THAT THAT EXISTING VEGETATION MAY MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT DUE TO GROWTH, WE WILL ENHANCE THE BUFFER INVERTERS SHALL BE SET BACK 500 FEET FROM NON-PARTICIPATING PROPERTY LINES AND 750 FEET FROM ANY EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
BUT ADDITIONALLY, WE SUGGEST A MEASURABLE SOUND LEVEL ADJACENT PROPERTY LINES SO THAT THERE IS A BENCHMARK TO CHECK TO ADDRESS REQUIREMENTS FOR STORM WATER.
WE WILL USE SEATING PRIOR TO INSTALLATION OF MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL, AND WE WILL PAY FOR A THIRD PARTY INSPECTOR TO MONITOR EROSION AND SETTLEMENT CONTROL COMPLIANCE.
AND LASTLY, WE'VE AGREED TO MEET THE SHORT AND SIX MONTH DECOMMISSIONING WINDOW.
WE'LL INCLUDE A MINIMUM SURETY OF $500,000, WHICH CAN BE AND WILL BE REVISED AS NEEDED, DETERMINED BY A THIRD PARTY ENGINEER'S REVIEW EVERY FIVE YEARS.
IN IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR FINAL LESSON LEARNED, WE ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AND HOW IT CAN BE IMPACTFUL.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS TO COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
FIRST, THE INTANGIBLE BENEFIT PROVIDED BY A MEMBER OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WHO IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED.
AND SECOND, THE FISCAL BENEFIT POSSIBLE FROM A PROJECT SUCH AS SYCAMORE CROSS.
A ES HAS BEEN ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN SURREY COUNTY.
WE VOLUNTEER WITH VIRGINIA PENCIL FOOD BANK AT ITS SURREY MOBILE FOOD DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
UM, WE'VE SPONSORED THE FOUR H PROGRAM TO SUPPLY TRANSPORTATION FOR SUMMER PROGRAMMING.
AND MOST RECENTLY WE SPONSORED THE JAMES RIVER ASSOCIATION, WHICH HAS USED THE FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE LOWER JAMES EDUCATIONAL INITIATIVES WORKING WITH 46 SEVENTH GRADERS FROM THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
A ES IS PROPOSING, SORRY, GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF WITH A ES HELPING TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY NEEDS THROUGH PHILANTHROPY AND VOLUNTEER EFFORTS.
THE SYCAMORE CROSS PROJECT WILL DIRECTLY BENEFIT THE COUNTY AS SOURCES OF REVENUE.
THE SYCAMORE CROSS PROJECT HAS PROPOSED A CITING AGREEMENT THAT INCLUDES UPFRONT PAYMENTS, TOTALING $1.6 MILLION.
WE'VE PROPOSED VOLUNTARY ANNUAL PAYMENTS BASED ON A PER MEGAWATT AMOUNT, WHICH TOTALS $1.2 MILLION.
THESE VOLUNTARY PAYMENTS, ALONG WITH THE REQUIRED M AND T TAX AND THE INCREASED REAL ESTATE TAX, WILL TOTAL $4.1 MILLION.
THROUGH OUR ENGAGEMENT, WE UNDERSTAND THAT CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY MAY FEEL MORE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF A PROJECT.
TO ADDRESS THIS, WE PROPOSE A COMMUNITY BENEFITS FUND TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE COUNTY AND HAVE SUGGESTED AN AMOUNT OF $250,000.
A ES IS PROPOSING SEVERAL ALTERNATIVES TO THE SITING AGREEMENT, AND WE ARE OPEN TO DISCUSSIONS.
TO BEGIN, WE WILL VOLUNTARILY INCREASE THE EMERGENCY SERVICES SUPPORT PAYMENT TO $150,000.
WE CONSISTENTLY HEARD DURING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD THAT THE COUNTY IS IN NEED OF A BRUSH TRUCK, RECOGNIZING THE ABILITY THIS WOULD HAVE TO SERVICE VARIOUS SOLAR FACILITIES WITHIN SURREY.
WE SEE THIS AS A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH.
WE HAVE ALSO SHOWN IN THIS ALTERNATIVE THE REALLOCATION OF THE FUNDS IN THE ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS, WHICH COULD, IF DESIRED SUPPORT AN INCREASE IN COMMUNITY BENEFITS FUND OR OTHER FUNDS.
AND TO THE RIGHT SIDE, WE HAVE SHOWN THREE OPTIONS WHICH HELP TO GUARANTEE THE ANNUAL PAYMENTS OVER A SHORTENED PERIOD OF 10, 15, OR 20 YEARS.
SALES SHOWN IN BLUE ARE A COMBINATION OF VOLUNTARY PAYMENTS AND THOSE IN BEIGE, PARDON ME, AND THOSE IN BEIGE REPRESENT ONLY THE M AND T TAX PAID AFTER THE GUARANTEE PERIOD HAS EXPIRED.
THE BOTTOM TWO ROWS OF THESE SALES SHOW THE TOTAL PAYMENTS OVER A 35 YEAR LIFE AND THE SUBSEQUENT NET PRESENT VALUE.
FOR EASE OF COMPARISON, AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESENTATION, I MENTIONED THREE PILLARS ON WHICH SYCAMORE CROSS CAN BE SUPPORTED.
NUMBER ONE, THIS PROJECT IS WELL CITED WITH LIMITED IMPACTS TO VIEW SHED AND CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND ZONING.
NUMBER TWO, A ES IS THE OWNER OPERATOR WHO IS ENGAGED WITH AND LISTENING TO THE CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS AND STAFF.
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WE ARE ACCOUNTING FOR THESE CONCERNS BY IMPROVING TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, MAINTAINING THE RURAL AESTHETIC AND LIFESTYLE, AND EVOLVING WITH COUNTY REQUIREMENTS.AND NUMBER THREE, SYCAMORE CROSS OFFERS $4.1 MILLION IN REVENUE, WHICH INCLUDES A PROPOSED MECHANISM TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT DOES DO REACH THE RESIDENTS.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE PROJECT TO YOU THIS EVENING, AND THE A ES TEAM IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE SITE AND AGREEMENT AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THOSE, YOU EITHER ONE OF THOSE ITEMS, YOU CAN COME AND DO SO AT THIS TIME, YOU THREE MINUTES.
I'M IN THE CLAREMONT DISTRICT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD, UH, TO DENY THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY WE SHOULDN'T HAVE, UH, SOLAR FARMS HERE.
UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA ADDRESS SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD IN THE LAST, UH, AND OTHER SOLAR FARMS AND, AND THAT'S GOOD.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY CAN ADDRESS IS THAT, UH, SOLAR FARMS LEACH HEAVY METALS AND THAT WILL CONTAMINATE THE DIRT.
SO WHEN THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT NOT JUST WHEN THEY BREAK, BUT ALSO JUST IN GENERAL, THEY LEAKED, CAN, UH, CONTAIN HEAVY METALS WITH THE PIN TO THE EARTH.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOES TO THE GROUNDWATER.
UM, BUT SOLAR FARMS HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN IN THE UNITED STATES FOR VERY LONG.
AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY STUDIES THAT SHOW THE EFFECTS ON GROUNDWATER, UM, UH, FROM INSTALLING SOLAR FARMS LIKE THIS.
ANOTHER THING IS SOLAR ENERGY IS ONLY VIABLE BECAUSE OF FEDERAL SUBSIDIES.
THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP TILL ABOUT, UH, I THINK IT WAS IN 2018, TWO CONGRESS PASSED AN ACT THAT SUBSIDIZED SOLAR FARMS. AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THAT THEY'RE HERE.
THAT'S THE ONLY RIGHT REASON THEY EXIST.
THEY DON'T MAKE MONEY IN AND OF THEMSELVES.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UH, URGE THE BOARD TO DENY THIS.
UM, ANOTHER THING IS I, I'LL BE HONEST.
I HAD NOT LOOKED IN THE ZONING PERMIT.
BUT IF IT'S NOT IN THE PERMIT, IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO LIE UP HERE.
YOU CAN COME UP HERE AND LIE FOR THREE MINUTES.
ONLY TIME IT'S ILLEGAL TO LIE IS IN COURT, IN FRONT OF CONGRESS, OR TO A, A FEDERAL OFFICER.
NEXT, I SEE THE APPEAL OF THE PROJECT.
THE REVENUE, I GET THAT, THAT'S HARD TO SNEEZE AT.
UM, GENTLEMEN WHO JUST SPOKE, UH, MENTIONED THE LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY OF THE STANDARD OF TELLING THE TRUTH AND THE WHOLE TRUTH UP HERE GOT MY ATTENTION.
WHEN THE APPLICANT, AT A PRIOR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I THINK IT WAS MR. WOODEN HAD ASKED, UH, HAS THIS GONE BEFORE THE, UH, ISLE OF WHITE PLANNING COMMISSION? AND THE APPLICANT SAID YES.
AND THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION WAS, DID THEY APPROVE IT? I REMEMBER HE LEANED INTO THIS MICROPHONE AND SAID, NO, THAT WAS TRUTH, BUT NOT THE WHOLE TRUTH CAUGHT MY ATTENTION.
UM, IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT HAS CLEARLY ADAPTED TO WHAT, UH, MR. WADE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SURREY COUNTY HAS ASKED.
SO I HAVE TO COMMEND THEM ON THAT.
UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS UNANIMOUS, NO ON SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, HAVE TO WEIGH THAT TOO, EVEN THOUGH THAT SHIP HAS SAILED BECAUSE THE BOARD OVERRODE THAT.
BUT, UH, THAT GETS MY ATTENTION AS WELL.
AND FINALLY, IF PROJECTS LIKE THIS WERE SO HEALTHY FOR RURAL COUNTIES, THE SOLAR LOBBYISTS WOULDN'T BE WORKING SO HARD ACROSS THE NATION TO OVERRIDE LOCAL CONTROL.
SHEET SURRY DISTRICT, WE'RE SPEAKING ON BOTH THE CUP AND THE CITING AGREEMENT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO IN JANUARY, UM, I DID SEND YOU ALL,
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UM, MY RECOMMENDATIONS CONCERNING ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THAT SHOULD BE ADDED TO THIS PROPOSED, PROPOSED CUP.I HOPE YOU ALL GOT IT AND READ IT.
AND, UM, SPECIFICALLY I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE, THE STORM WATER RUNOFF AND THE SETBACKS, I THINK IN THE CURRENT PROPOSED CUP, THEY ARE SERIOUSLY LACKING.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT THE WAY IT IS WORDED RIGHT NOW, THAT THE SURROUNDING LANDOWNERS WILL HAVE GREAT HARM DONE TO THEM.
SO, UM, IF YOU GET A CHANCE, IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT, UH, PLEASE REVISIT THE RECOMMENDATIONS I SUBMITTED.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THAT MR. WADE WENT AND DID A GREAT IN DEPTH COMPARISON BETWEEN THE CUP AND THE UPDATED ORDINANCE, AND IT'S IN THE PACKAGE.
AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD DOCUMENT TO LOOK AT, GIVEN THAT THE ORDINANCE IS HELPFUL FOR THE CITIZENS TO SEE HOW THIS CUP COMPARES.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD DOCUMENT TO LOOK AT.
UM, SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT ON AS FAR AS THE CUP, THAT YOU PLEASE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE, OF THE CITIZEN'S, SINS THAT LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE, THAT THE SOUL OF PROJECT PUTS UP AS FAR AS THE CITING AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER, I HAVE TO SAY, CONSIDER THE HORRIBLE CONDITIONS THAT THE CITIZENS HAD TO BEAR DURING CONSTRUCTION OF THE CAVALIER PROJECT.
AND NOW THEY HAVE THE CONTINUED NOISE OF THE, UH, UH, OF THE PROJECT SURROUNDING THEIR HOMES.
UNLESS THIS COMPANY TAKES STEPS TO FIX WHAT'S STILL BROKEN, UM, I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY THAT COULD ALLOW THEM TO COME BACK INTO OUR COUNTY.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY IN CASE YOU DO DECIDE TO GO WITH THIS.
UM, MAYBE WE COULD ADD TO THE SITING AGREEMENT THAT, UM, CONSIDERATION TO PROVIDE BROADBAND TO ALL THE TOWN HALLS IN SURREY FOR THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE VERY NICE.
NEXT GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS BILLY HOLMAN, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF ALL AND WHITE COUNTY, AND I OWN LAND.
AND THIS PROJECT IS PRESENTED TO YOU BY A ES.
FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR THE MANY HOURS OF YOU LISTENING.
I'M SURE YOU'RE TIRED OF HEARING A LOT OF IT, BUT THANK YOU FOR OPENING IT UP, TAKING THE TIME TO LOOK AT ALL ANGLES OF THE PROJECT FOR THOSE PROPOSED AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE FOR IT.
NEEDS TO GO THROUGH A ES AND, UH, THEIR PRESENTATION OF WHAT SOLAR ENTAILS, THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS THEY HAVE HAD.
IT'S ALL BEEN BENEFICIAL FOR US AS CITIZENS TO LOOK AT A PROJECT AS SERIOUS AS THIS AND LEARN.
I GUESS ALL OF US KNOW A WHOLE LOT MORE ABOUT SOLO THAN WE DID TWO YEARS AGO.
SINCE TIME IS LIMITED, I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON ONE THING, AND THAT IS THE RIGHTS OF THE LANDOWNER IN THIS PROJECT.
MY FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE IN ALL WHITE COUNTY ON THE LAND THAT SOLAR'S PROPOSED TO BE BUILT ON SINCE 1684.
WE'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, 384 YEARS.
WE LIVE ON THAT LAND FOR ALL THESE YEARS.
MY MOTHER'S FAMILY IS FROM HERE IN SURRY COUNTY, AS WELL AS HER FAMILY THAT WILL FARM US.
SO I'M NOT ONE OF THESE FOLKS THAT HAVE COMING IN FROM THE OUTSIDE.
I'M HERE TO STAY, BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.
BUT FARMING HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.
IN RECENT YEARS, WE'VE SEEN THAT A SMALL FARMER IN, IN MY CASE, ONLY RENTING A HUNDRED ACRES OF LAND, THE FARMER FARM, IT CAN ONLY PAY SO MUCH FOR THE RENT.
HOWEVER, THAT IS NOT ENOUGH TO COVER THE UPKEEP OF THE FARM, THE HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT IN
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1830.I'M BLESSED WITH THREE CHILDREN, FIVE GRANDCHILDREN, AND SIX GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN AT THIS TIME.
I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THIS PROPERTY TO THEM, BUT AS MY SON RECENTLY SAID, DAD, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING WITH THE HOUSE, IT WON'T BE HERE.
SO WHAT A BLESSING THAT THIS PROJECT CAME ALONG AND I'VE BEEN OFFERED INCOME THAT CAN SUPPORT THIS FARM FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
MANY PEOPLE HAVE HAVE GIVEN STATEMENTS UP HERE THAT I FIND A LOT THAT UNTRUE.
I HAVE, I'VE HAVE SOLD ON MY HOUSE FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS.
SOME MONTHS I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU GIVE CONSIDERATION TO SAYING YES TO THIS PROJECT.
EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, BLAKE COX AGAIN, UH, HERE WITH ENERGY, RIGHT? UM, I WAS REALLY COMING UP HERE TO JUST REMIND YOU TO KEEP IN MIND PROPERTY RIGHTS AND GIVE YOU A SPIEL ON THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK I CAN SAY BETTER THAN THE GENTLEMAN DID BEFORE ME.
SO I WOULD JUST REMIND YOU OF THAT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, UH, WHILE YOU'RE TAKING THIS PHOTO ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, THANKS ME AGAIN,
BUT ANYWAY, I, I HAD JUST A FEW THINGS, THE POINTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE, BUT I GUESS I, I HAVE A FEW MORE, SOME OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO SPEAKING ABOUT TRUTH AND SOLAR PANELS, LEACHING, I GUESS I COULD STAND UP HERE AND SAY NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS LEACH RADIATION, BUT I HAVE NO SCIENCE TO BACK THAT UP.
AND OBVIOUSLY IT HASN'T BEEN A PROBLEM RIGHT HERE IN THE BACKYARD.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, TILL THERE'S SOME SCIENCE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU, AND THEN THERE'S BEEN STUDIES AND THERE'S BEEN NO THERE.
I'M SURE Y'ALL INVESTIGATED THAT AS WELL, BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, A SA AND I, A, EXCUSE ME, MY FAMILY AND I AND A ES PARTNERED ON THE CAVALIER PROJECT AND THEY CAME TO US AND WE VETTED THEM.
YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DON'T WANT TO GET IN BUSINESS WITH, YOU KNOW, JUST ANYBODY ON A PROJECT AT SCALE.
THEY PROPOSED A LEASE ABOUT 492 ACRES FROM US ON THAT PROJECT.
AND WE JUST, WE CHECKED THEM OUT.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, HAD DONE SOLAR LEASES AND SOME WITH, YOU KNOW, NONE WITH A ES, BUT SOME WITH OTHER COMPANIES.
YOU DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH A, A CONTRACTOR LEASE THAT DEVELOPS AND THEN LEASES IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND A S IS, YOU KNOW, THE OWNER OPERATOR, THEY'VE POINTED THAT OUT AND THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO.
THEY'VE GONE ABOVE EXPLAINING DIFFERENT PROCESSES TO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE FORWARD AND OPPOSED TO IT.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY TO BE COMMENDED AND, YOU KNOW, AND AS A PROPERTY OWNER, YOU KNOW, IT IS KIND OF ODD 'CAUSE I'VE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY TYPE OF POLITICS, ESPECIALLY LOCAL POLITICS WITH OUTTA THE WHITES AREA NOW.
AND AS A, YOU KNOW, MY FAMILY, MOST POLITICAL VIEWS ARE YOU, YOU INHERIT 'EM FROM YOUR FAMILY, SO TO SPEAK.
YOU LEARN 'EM FROM YOUR FAMILY.
LIKE MOST ATTITUDES IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOUR BASE FOUNDATION.
OUR FAMILY'S ALWAYS JUST KEEP YOUR NOSE TO THE GRINDSTONE.
JUST SHUT UP AND JUST, THEY'RE GONNA DO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT OF A CONDITIONAL YOUTH PERMIT AS A KIND OF AN INFRINGEMENT.
WHAT RIGHT DOES THE KIND OF LAND'S HARD TO COME BY? YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY BEING A RELATIVELY MODEST MEANS IT'S HARD TO COME BY.
AND IT RARELY, ESPECIALLY ON THE SCALE TO FARM, WE FARM FOR A LIVING.
IT'S HARD TO BUY I AMOUNT OF LAND TO FARM, BUT IT DOES COME AVAILABLE.
BUT, BUT AFTER THIS PROCESS WITH S SYCAMORE AND, AND CAVALIER, WE SEE THE, I SEE THE BENEFIT OF, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU JUST CAN'T, I JUST, 'CAUSE I OWN A PIECE OF LAND, JUST CAN'T GO OUT AND BUILD A WHATEVER.
I'VE, I'VE TRAVELED THIS COUNTRY EXTENSIVELY AND I'VE SEEN AREAS
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HAVE THE ZONING OVERSIGHT, AND I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THAT.AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT A PRETTY PICTURE WHEN YOU
WE'RE SEEING MORE PEOPLE MOVE IN AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT MANAGED GROWTH.
YOU JUST DON'T WANT, AND IT'S A GOOD THING.
I, I THINK A ES HAS DONE A GREAT JOB COMMUNICATING THERE TO Y'ALL.
AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTY BENEFITS FINANCIALLY AND THE LANDOWNERS ALL THIS LAND, THAT ASS DOESN'T OWN THIS LAND.
THEY'RE LEASING IT FROM THE LANDOWNERS AND IT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE LANDOWNERS WANT FOR SURE.
AND OBVIOUSLY I, SOMEBODY MIGHT NOT WANNA LIVE ACROSS FROM ONE, BUT THEY'VE, YOU TRAVEL AROUND AND YOU, YOU, IF YOU DO A LOT OF TRAVELING, YOU CAN DRIVE BY A SOLAR FARM AND NOT EVEN REALIZE IT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU MIGHT SEE IT PICKING THROUGH THE WOODS AT A SPOT OR TWO AND THEY, OH, THERE'S A SOLAR FARM, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE HAVE OFFSETS AND BUFFERS AND SOME OF 'EM YOU REALLY HAVE, YOU WON'T EVEN SEE UNLESS YOU KNOW THEY'RE THERE.
AND I'VE TRAVELED AROUND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT ONES, YOU KNOW, NORTH CAROLINA AND VIRGINIA, AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU DIDN'T NOT HAVE A MAP OF WHERE THEY WERE, YOU WOULDN'T SEE 'EM RIDING UP DOWN THE ROAD.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
ANYWAY, BUT THANK Y'ALL AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
SHALON PIERCE AGAIN FROM BACON'S COUNSEL.
I ONLY HAVE ONE COMMENT AND THAT IS IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, TAKE IT.
IF YOU DON'T REALLY THINK YOU HAVE TIME TO HAVE THOUGHT, BEEN ABLE TO TAKE IT ALL THAT HAS BEEN SAID TO YOU TONIGHT AND PREVIOUSLY AND, UM, TO, IN ORDER TO MAKE A DECISION THAT YOU THINK WOULD BENEFIT THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY, WHICH YOU WERE ELECTED TO DO, IT'S OKAY TO TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME.
THE LAND'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
THE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
THE SITUATIONS ARE NOT GONNA CHANGE THAT MUCH.
SO IF YOU NEEDED MORE TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DO OR NOT, BE WILLING TO TAKE IT.
I'M IN THE BACON'S CASTLE DISTRICT.
HAD TO THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE, BECAUSE I LIVED IN ALL WHITE FOR A WHILE.
BUT I'VE BEEN BACK IN SURREY FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AND WE LIVE AT THE END OF MULLET DRIVE.
GREG'S PRESENTATION SHOWED YOU OUR MAILBOX.
THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO OUR HOUSE FROM HERE IS TO EITHER HAVE A HELICOPTER WALK OR DRIVE BACK IN OLIVE WHITE COUNTY.
SOME OF YOU MAY BE, UH, AWARE THAT THERE'S A ROAD THAT STARTS IN ALL WHITE AND ENDS IN SURREY.
WELL, WE LIVE AT THE END OF THAT LITTLE, LITTLE PIECE OF PARADISE, IF YOU WILL.
WAS QUIET BEFORE CAVALIER SOLAR.
BUT I'M JUST GONNA BRING THIS UP.
IF THEY HAVE A WAY TO CALM THE INVERTERS DOWN, WE WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND WITH THE ADDITIONAL PODS, IF YOU WILL, THE SOLAR PODS THAT THEY PROPOSED TO PUT AT THE END OF MULLET DRIVE, IT'S JUST GONNA ADD MORE NOISE THE SAME WAY IN, IN JOHN BYRON, I APPRECIATE THE OPINION OF THE LANDOWNERS.
'CAUSE I'M ONE, AND I'M AGAINST IT.
BUT I DON'T HATE ANY OF MY NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THEY DECIDED TO SELL OUT AND MAKE A LITTLE EXTRA CASH.
THAT'S THEIR, THAT'S THEIR RIGHT.
I I REALLY DO BELIEVE IN LANDOWNER'S RIGHTS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE OUR NEIGHBORS AND WE DO SEE THEM WITH NOT, WE SEE OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT WE DO SEE THE SOLAR PANELS.
WE LIVE WITH THE SAME INCONVENIENCE THAT THE ONES THAT DECIDED TO LEASE OR SELL OUT, UM, DEAL WITH.
I'VE HEARD SO MUCH, SO MUCH ABOUT COMMUNITY AND UNITY HERE TONIGHT.
I DON'T WANNA MAKE THE DECISION FOR YOU, BUT MY WIFE AND I AND MY PARENTS HAVE LIVE NEXT DOOR ARE TWO OF VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT BE, WILL BE AFFECTED BY VIEW SHED OR THE NOISE THAT SYCAMORE CROSS WILL BRING IN SURRY COUNTY.
THE MAJORITY OF THE POWER GENERATOR'S GONNA COME FROM ALL THE WHITE.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S EASY TO SEE.
AND I, IT WAS A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION.
I'LL GIVE MR. CRESWELL ALL THE CREDIT IN THE WORLD.
AGAIN, I DON'T, I DON'T ENVY YOUR DECISION.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME AND KNOWING THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST IT IN SURREY COUNTY, BUT I THINK DO THINK WE CAN LIVE TOGETHER AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, 'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE CAVALIER STOLEN.
UM, ONE OTHER THING, AND I'LL LEAVE IT THERE IF YOU DECIDE TO APPROVE, AND I APPRECIATE THE OTHER COMMENT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION TONIGHT.
THEY'VE GOT MORE THAN $4.1 MILLION.
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THAT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY OVER 30 YEARS.GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND BOARD.
I AM A MEMBER OF THE SPRING GROVE DISTRICT.
I'M A FOURTH GENERATION FAMILY FARM OWNER.
UM, I'M NOT AGAINST SOLAR FARMING, BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD A QUESTION.
WHAT ARE WE, IS THERE A CUTOFF? WILL THERE EVER BE A CUTOFF WHEN WE SAY S COUNTY HAS ENOUGH SOLAR FARMS? ANOTHER QUESTION IS, WHAT, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM OF THE TAX REVENUE? I KNOW THEY SAY TAX REVENUE'S GONNA HELP THINGS, BUT MY TAXES KEEP GOING UP.
LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, A FARM DOES NOT GENERATE THE REVENUE, UH, TO EVEN COVER THE TAXES AT AT THIS POINT.
BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED IS WILL THERE BE A CUTOFF OR IS THERE A NUMBER WE'RE TRYING TO REACH WITH OUR TAX REVENUE ON THESE SOLAR FARMS? AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LONG TERM EFFECTS, UH, THIS IS LIFE CHANGING MONEY TO A LANDOWNER.
I'VE BEEN OFFERED MULTIPLE, UM, OFFERS AND IT IS GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
SO PLEASE CONSIDER ALL THE CITIZEN'S CONCERNS, UM, IN THIS MATTER.
SUSAN CORELLO, UH, CLAREMONT DISTRICT.
UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT A ES HAS DONE AND WHAT THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE COUNTY THUS FAR.
THE ONE THING THAT I KEEP IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD RECALLING IS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GROWTH IN THE COUNTY, THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE THAT OUR GROWTH WAS GONNA MAINLY BE ON 31 CORRIDOR SO THAT THE REST OF THE COUNTY CAN STAY RURAL.
BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE MOVED TO THIS COUNTY.
I'VE BEEN HERE OVER 20 YEARS, AND WE DID MOVE HERE BECAUSE OF THE RURAL, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE, BECAUSE OF THE ATMOSPHERE, BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTY OF THIS COUNTY.
SO THE COMMENT WAS MADE, 31 IS OUR CORRIDOR OF GROWTH SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THE REST OF THE COUNTY RURAL.
I WOULD BEG TO DIFFER IF YOU ASKED ANYBODY ON WHITE MARSH ROAD RIGHT NOW, IF THEY LIVE IN A RURAL COUNTY, PEOPLE THAT HAVE GROWN UP HERE, UM, NOW HAVE SOLAR PANELS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM.
UM, PEOPLE THAT NOW ARE GONNA BE SURROUNDED BUY SOLAR PANELS, UM, GO STAY AT ONE OF THEIR HOUSES FOR THE WEEKEND.
YOU CAN SEE THE SOLAR FIELDS HARDWOODS.
HOW DO HARDWOODS GROW? THEY'RE TALL.
LELAND CYPRESSES HAVE A TENDENCY TO BLOW OVER PRETTY QUICKLY AND EASILY.
UM, ONE OTHER THING THAT I HAVE TO SAY IS WHEN A ES STARTED THE PROJECT WITH CAVALIER, THERE WERE COMPLAINTS AFTER COMPLAINTS AFTER COMPLAINTS AFTER COMPLAINTS, SAME COMPLAINTS ALMOST ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE WHOLE PROJECT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S PENALTIES THAT ARE POSSIBLY GONNA BE ADDED TO IT.
IF YOU'RE BUILDING A HOUSE AND YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT BUILDER OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THE SAME ISSUES, YOU GONNA HIRE THEM BACK TO BUILD YOUR BARN.
I WOULDN'T, THEY HAVEN'T EVEN COMPLETED THEIR PROJECTS YET.
I DO NOT WANNA BE IN YOUR SHOES.
I'M SORRY IF YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO FIX THEIR HOUSES AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A REPRIEVE FOR THEM.
I UNDERSTAND THE FARMING PART OF IT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO THINK OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA LIVE WITH IT.
MOST OF THE FARMERS ARE NOT GOING TO LIVE RIGHT BESIDE THAT FIELD OF SOLAR PANELS.
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THANK YOU.STEVEN PITMAN, UM, VEGAS CASTLE.
AND MY FAMILY ALSO HAS LAND IN THE DENVER DISTRICT.
AS MR. HOWELL WAS SAYING, THE PICTURE LOOKING ACROSS HIS MAILBOX OF WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT THIS NEW ARRAY BEHIND THAT.
I USED TO GO BACK AND FISH A POND ON THEIR FARM.
NOW WHEN I GO BACK THERE, I'M 200 YARDS FROM IT.
AND ALL YOU HEAR WHILE YOU'RE BACK THERE IS THE HUM THE ALL, ALL DAY LONG.
I MEAN, IT USED TO BE A HALF MILE OFF THE ROAD.
I COULD GO BACK THERE, SIT, DO NOTHING, AND JUST LOOK AT NOW I LOOK THROUGH A LITTLE BLOCK OF WOODS.
I CAN SEE THE, AND ALL I CAN HEAR IS THE AND ALSO FARM OUT THERE.
AND I FARM MR. HOW FARM Y'ALL NEED TO COME UP AND RIDE WITH ME ON THE ROAD ONE DAY WHEN THEY'RE IN CONSTRUCTION ON ONE OF MY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
BECAUSE I CAN'T MOVE FROM ONE FARM TO THE OTHER.
I WON'T MOVE MOST, SOME, MOST OF MY EQUIPMENT WITHOUT GETTING SOMEBODY TO RUN AHEAD OF ME WITH FLASHERS TRYING TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC BACK.
SO, LIKE I SAID, I'M, EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS, I FEEL SORRY IF Y'ALL HAD TO MAKE THIS DECISION, THE LANDOWNER, I'M STILL FRIENDS WITH THEM.
I MEAN, LANDOWNER RIGHTS, YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO WITH YOUR LAND.
BUT WHEN IT AFFECTS ME AND MY FAMILY IS WHAT? AND SURY COUNTY AND ITS CITIZENS BECAUSE BELAND ROAD, I WENT DOWN THERE TODAY, EVERY TIME I MET SOMEBODY, I GOT DOWN TO 15 MILES AN HOUR.
AFRAID WE WERE GONNA HIT BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH WATER STANDING THAT NOTHING'S BEEN DONE.
IF THERE BE NO OTHER, WE WILL.
I'M FROM IS WHITE, LIKE QUITE A BIT OF THE SPEAKERS HAVE BEEN HERE TONIGHT.
I JUST WANTED TO COME AND SAY THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD.
I DO BELIEVE IT WILL HELP PRESERVE THE RURAL HERITAGE CULTURE AND IDENTITY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO SERVE IN ISLAND WHITE SHARE AND TO ADDRESS GROUNDWATER CONCERNS, EVEN IF IT DID LEACH.
I MEAN, HOW IS THAT ANY WORSE THAN THE PESTICIDES THAT FARMERS ARE SPRAYING THEM FIELDS? BUT THAT'S JUST THE DOG.
ANYWAY, I HOPE YOU ALL WILL APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
AND Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME, SIR? SMITH.
WE, AT THIS TIME, WE'LL CLOSE OUR PUBLIC HEARING ON OUR CUP CONTENTION, USE PERMIT, AND CITING AGREEMENT.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS AT THIS TIME? MR. CHAIR? MR. I'D MAKE A COMMENT IF I CAN.
UM, WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE, UM, CITIZENS THAT MADE THEIR COMMENTS? UH, THANK FOR EES FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO SIT IN, UH, MANY OF THE PRESENTATIONS WHILE, UH, SITTING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT, UM, LISTENING TO THE, UH, CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS, UH, A ES HAS MADE A STRONG PUSH TO TRY TO CORRECT THEIR WRONGS FROM VARIOUS PROJECTS.
UM, HOWEVER, UM, WITH THE PRESENTATION AND LISTENING TO SOME OF THE SITING AGREEMENTS AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THEY'RE, UH, A S IS TRYING THEIR BEST TO, UM, WORK WITH OUR, OUR COUNTY.
UM, BUT I DO HAVE A CONCERN OF, I THE ROADWAYS ARE REALLY A CONCERN OF MINE.
UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH THE, UM, TALKS OF, YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO MR. CARROLL AND LISTEN TO SOME OF THE PRESENTATIONS A S HAS MADE IN THE PAST AS FAR AS THE PLAN OF ACTION OF GETTING THE ROADS, UH, FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD, UH, PRETTY MUCH PAVED THE NEW, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MENTIONED IN MARCH.
BUT AGAIN, LISTENING TO, AGAIN, SOME OF THE CITIZENS IN THEIR COMMENTS, UM, WHO'S TO SAY WHEN MARCH COMES AROUND, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR PAVEMENT.
UM, SO THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S A CONCERN I WANNA BRING FORTH WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, UM, WHEN CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR ACTIONS TONIGHT.
UM, BUT ALSO TOO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, UM, LOOKING AT, I GUESS TRYING TO, UH, CORRECT THE WRONGS,
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YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO GIVE A AS CREDIT FOR THAT.UM, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY WORK DILIGENTLY.
I'VE, I'VE TRAVELED, UH, WITH, UH, A ES TWICE TO THE SITES MYSELF TO ACTUALLY SEE THE, UH, TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN.
AND THEY ARE CORRECT THE WAY THEY HAVE EVERYTHING SET.
UM, IT'S COMING OFF FOUR 60 HAS, UM, THE AREA THAT WE'RE WE'RE USING FOR CAVALIER, THERE SHOULD BE NO TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD.
UM, UM, I, I HEARD, I THINK I HEARD IN THEIR PRESENTATION, IF THERE WERE SOME TYPE OF, UM, UM, UH, I GUESS, UM, ABUSE OF THEIR, UM, THEIR DISAGREE WITH THEIR AGREEMENT, UM, THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF, OF, UH, PENALTY.
SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THERE ARE HEARING THE CITIZENS, HOWEVER, AGAIN, IT'S TO MY, JUST SPEAKING WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS AND, AND MEMBERS ARE HERE TONIGHT.
YOU KNOW, MY, MY MAIN CONCERN AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UM, THE PROMISES THAT WERE MADE, UM, AS FAR AS ROAD REPAIRS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO DO THAT AGAIN.
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO BRING FORTH TO THE TABLE, TO THE BOARD.
ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY CLOSING REMARKS FROM STAFF? NONE AT THIS TIME.
THE CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE SITING AGREEMENT FROM SYCAMORE CROSSING.
YOU WANNA DO 'EM SEPARATELY? YES.
UM, JUST, UH, JUST FOR CLARITY, PURPOSE AS, AS FAR AS VOTING MATTERS TONIGHT, IS EVERYONE VOTING ON THIS ISSUE, ON THIS MATTER THAT ARE PRESENT? MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY, UH, INDICATION FROM ANY BOARD MEMBER THAT THEY WISH TO REUSE THEMSELVES ON THIS SIDE.
SO OUR BOARD MEMBERS HAVE, DO NOT HAVE A MOTION AT THIS TIME.
WE HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE, DENY OR TABLE.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
WELL, MR. CHAIR, UM, AGAIN, LISTEN TO CITIZEN COMMENTS, UM, UH, THAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, UNDERSTANDING, UM, UM, AGAIN, UM, THE INTEGRITY OF SRE COUNTY, UM, UM, AND ALSO TOO, UM, UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR, OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, UM, AND, AND I THINK A, A CITIZEN MADE TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AREN'T IN A RUSH.
HOWEVER, I THINK TONIGHT, UM, IN LISTENING TO THE, UM, PRESENTATION, THE CITING AGREEMENT, UM, THERE ARE SOME, SOME, I GUESS SOME THINGS THAT COULD BE TWEAKED IN A SENSE.
SO I, I, I MOVE THAT WE DENY THE, UH, CUP.
YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
AND SECOND, THAT WE WOULD DENY THE CUP FROM SYCAMORE CROSSING AT THIS TIME.
WE HAVE THE SIGNING AGREEMENT.
IS THERE A MOTIONAL SIGNING AGREEMENT APPROVAL? THERE? THERE IS NO MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE, THERE IS NO SITING AGREEMENT.
THE CITING AGREEMENT WOULD GO ALONG WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UM, BUT JUST FOR CLARITY OF THE RECORD, SINCE IT IS TWO SEPARATE ITEMS THAT HAVE HAD TWO, TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, IF WE COULD HAVE A VOTE REGARDING THE CITING AGREEMENT, THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERRED RECOMMENDATION.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE CITING AGREEMENT.
MCCLAR, UH, SUPERVISOR PIERCE SUGGESTED THAT THERE ARE THINGS WHICH COULD BE TWEAKED.
WELL, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER AT THIS TIME.
IS, IS INHERENT AS A BOARD? APOLOGIES, I THOUGHT A DENIAL RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD, IF I COULD MAYBE HELP CLARIFY.
I, I THINK WHAT MR. CRESSWELL IS GETTING TO IS IF THE DENIAL, UM, IF THE DENIALS, SO THE DENIAL HAS BEEN APPROVED, CORRECT.
THAT ESSENTIALLY ENDS THE PROJECT.
UM, IF, IF IT WAS THE WILL OF THE BOARD TO, UM, HAVE A ES REVISIT
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SOME THINGS AND BRING THE, AND BRING THE CUP BACK THEN, UM, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE THROUGH A MOTION TO TABLE THE DISCUSSION THAT WOULD'VE KEPT THE PROJECT ALIVE.UM, SO JUST, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE ONCE THE PROJECT IS DEAD, THEY HAVE TO START BACK AT THE BEGINNING.
IF THE BOARD WISHES TO RECONSIDER THEIR MOTION, UM, THAT COULD, COULD BE DONE THROUGH A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION BY SOMEONE WHO VOTED IN, IN FAVOR OF THE WINNING MOTION.
AND THAT WOULD BE ALL SINCE ALL FOUR OF YOU VOTED YES.
IT COULD BE ANY ONE OF YOU AGAIN, IF, IF YOU WISHED TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE AND, AND INSTEAD TABLE THE MATTER.
UM, FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS OVER THERE IS A, IS THERE A RECONSIDERATION FOR THE MOTION THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY A MAJORITY? IS THERE ANY RECONSIDERATION AT THIS TIME? IF THERE BE NONE, THE MOTION IS CARRIED.
IS THERE A MOTION ON THE SIGNING AGREEMENT SINCE WE DID THEM ALL AT TOGETHER? CHARLIE, DO WE STILL NEED THAT? MS. MS. PERKINS? I THINK FOR CLARITY OF THE RECORD, I, I WOULD WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND HAVE THAT VOTE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBERS? ALTHOUGH I, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, A VOTE TO, UM, TO APPROVE THE FINALIZATION OF A CITING AGREEMENT WOULD BE CONTRARY TO THE VOTE FOR THE CUP.
FOR CLARITY, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, DENIED A CITING AGREEMENT, BUT THAT WAS SECOND.
SECOND PROBABLY MOVING SECOND.
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NEW BUSINESS FIRST BOARD OF NEW BUSINESS IS 2025 BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.RECOMMENDATION OF NAME FOR CIRCUIT COURT? UH, YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, I'M GONNA ASK MS. PERKINS TO, UH, DO THE SECOND PART, BUT I DO WANNA SAY THAT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION FOR THIS ITEM IS TO INCREASE THE COMPENSATION, UH, FOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE CLARITY TO THAT.
UM, PREVIOUSLY BEFORE THE, UH, BOARD MEMBERS WERE BEING PAID A $15 PER HOUR STIPEND, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY MRS. PERKINS OFFICE TO DO A REVIEW OF OTHER LOCALITIES.
AND I DO WANNA SHARE WITH THE BOARD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE BE CONSISTENT AMONGST JURISDICTIONS AND IMPROVE A PER MEETING STIPEND FOR THOSE MEMBERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $160.
AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION.
UM, JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
AND AT THIS TIME, MS. PERKINS CAN, UM, PROVIDE WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MEMBERS.
UM, FOR THAT, FOR THAT INTRODUCTION OF THE MATTER.
UM, SO BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS UNDERTAKING AN AN A, EXCUSE ME, A REASSESSMENT.
THIS YEAR, A BOARD OF EQUALIZATION NEEDS TO BE APPOINTED BY THE CIRCUIT COURT, UM, PER STATUTE.
IT, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RECOMMENDS NAMES TO THE CIRCUIT COURT, AND THEN THE CIRCUIT COURT IS ACTUALLY THE BODY THAT DOES THE APPOINTMENT THROUGH AN ORDER.
SO, BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A, IS A RESOLUTION TO RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS.
AND I WILL NOTE THAT THESE SAME INDIVIDUALS, UH, SERVED, UH, ON THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION, UM, IN 2022 AND 2023.
UM, AND THEY HAVE ALL INDICATED A WILLINGNESS AND DESIRE TO SERVE.
AGAIN, THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION APPOINTMENTS ARE, UH, BY STATUTE ONLY FOR ONE YEAR.
SO THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS EXERCISE AGAIN, THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE, UH, LINDA BAILEY FROM THE BACONS CASTLE DISTRICT.
DORIS ELLIS JACKSON FROM THE CARLS LEE DISTRICT.
THOMAS BYRD FROM THE DRON DISTRICT, ANTHONY WASHINGTON FROM THE CLAREMONT DISTRICT, AND ALVIN CHEATHAM FROM THE SURREY DISTRICT.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY, ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
BOARD MEMBERS, YOU HEARD THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE AGREED TO CONTINUE TO SERVE.
SO IS THERE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND, UH, LINDA BAILEY? DORIS JACKSON THOMAS BY ANTHONY WASHINGTON AND ALVIN CHEATHAM TO THE CIRCUIT COURT FOR APPROVAL FOR THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION CHAIR.
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I MOVE.WE, UM, UH, APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED NAMES, UH, TO THE CIRCUIT COURT FOR APPROVAL.
HAVE A MOTION EVERY SECOND, SECOND PROPER MOVE.
ALL IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE VOTING SIGN OF AYE.
WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT? MR ROLL? $160 PER MEETING.
COULD WE GIVE A MOTION FOR THE INCREASE ON THE STIPEND? I CHAIR MR. HARDY? YEAH, I, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO BE AHEAD AND APPROVE THE, UH, RECOMMENDED STIPEND, UH, FOR THE, UH, FO MENTIONED, UH, MEMBERS HAVE A MOTION GATHER A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? VOTING SIGN OF AYE.
NEXT IS UPDATE A PROPOSAL OF THE BATTERY STORAGE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
MR. WADE, GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN.
RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE A, AN APPLICATION PENDING FOR OUR PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A, A, UH, A NEW USE CALLED BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS. UM, IT'S TYPICALLY A, A USE THAT'S BEING BROUGHT TO SEVERAL LOCALITIES.
SEVERAL LOCALITIES ARE CONSIDERING ADDING THIS TYPE OF USE TO THEIR ZONING ORDINANCE.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS A APPLICANT DRIVEN, UM, ORDINANCE.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEIR APPLICANT, UM, AND THEY TRIED TO COME, WE WORKING WITH THEM TO COME IN OUR EXISTING USE AFTER EVALUATING THEIR USE, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST THAT THEY, UM, GO UNDER AN ACTUAL, AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IN WHICH WE CAN ACTUALLY CONTROL THE TYPE OF USE THERE TO, TO MITIGATE WHATEVER IMPACTS THERE ARE, UM, WITH THE CITIZENS AND, AND ESTABLISH A CRITERIA FOR, FOR THEIR REVIEW.
THE PUBLIC, THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON DECEMBER THE 16TH.
UM, THE P IT WAS BROUGHT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH A COUPLE OF, OF ITEMS AT THE, AT THEIR JANUARY 27TH MEETING.
UM, AND SO THE, WE, WE ANTICIPATE THE PROJECT BEING, UH, MORE CORRECTIONS BEING ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE AND BEING BROUGHT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE 20, THE FOURTH, THE FOURTH MONDAY OF, OF, OF THIS MONTH.
UM, AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, WE ANTICIPATE POSSIBLY A VOTE ON THAT DATE, IN WHICH CASE, UM, IT WOULD, IF, IF THAT SCHEDULE WERE TRUE AND THERE WAS A VOTE ON THAT CASE, IT WOULD COME TO YOU ALL MORE THAN LIKELY IN YOUR APRIL MEETING FOR, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, THERE WAS ALSO INTEREST WITH THE P COMMISSION, UM, THAT ADDITION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, A, A FIELD TRIP BEING MET, MADE TO A, UM, A BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FACILITY, UM, IN WHICH THE POINTING COMMISSION ALSO THOUGHT IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS TO ALSO SEE A SITE TOO.
I THINK ONE OF THE POINTING COMMISSIONS SAID, LISTEN, IT MIGHT'VE BEEN HELPFUL IF WE HAD SEEN A SOLAR PROJECT AND A, SOME OTHER, SOME OTHER USES BEFORE WE APPROVE THEM.
AND THIS IS PROBABLY GETTING THAT SAME CATEGORY OF, IT'D BE NICE TO SEE A PROJECT AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY GO AHEAD AND REVIEW THIS CUP FOR THAT PROJECT.
SO I DO THINK THAT, THAT IT SEEMS LIKE AGREEABLE.
I THINK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND, AND FOR BOARD MEMBERS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO TAKE A FIELD TRIP.
UM, WE ARE, WE WE'RE ACTIVELY, AND MYSELF AND MS. PERKINS ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TOGETHER TO SEE IF WE CAN'T FIND A, A VENUE TO, TO, TO ACTUALLY, UH, REVIEW AND, AND, AND LOOK AT, UM, AND WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE APPLICANT.
I THINK THEY MAY HAVE SOME CONNECTIONS TO WORK ON SOME THINGS.
AND IF WE CAN'T FIND SOME, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT, WE'LL WORK, WE'LL WORK OURSELVES.
UM, I THINK DEMEANOR HAS A COUPLE OF SITES THAT WE CAN PROBABLY WORK TO FIND, UM, WHATEVER IT IS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE THE, UM, MITIGATE WHAT'S BEST IN SUR COUNTY.
UM, THIS IS ALSO ANOTHER KIND OF PROJECT THAT CAN, UH, BODE WITH A SIGHTING AGREEMENT SIMILAR TO SOLAR PROJECTS.
UM, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT, UM, THE BOARD COULD CONSIDER A SIGHTING AGREEMENT WITH IN ADDITION TO, UM, SOME ARE, SOME ARE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DONE WITH, WITH SOLAR PROJECTS AS WELL.
SO THIS, THIS, THIS HAS THE, THE ABILITY TO, UH, GENERATE REVENUE THAT IN THAT DIRECTION.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THE APPLICANT, UM, HAS SIGNED IT WOULD BE LOCATED OFF OF WHITE MARSH IN THE BACONS CASTLE DISTRICT.
UM, AND IT, IT IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A TRANSMISSION LINE.
SO I CAN'T TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT THE SITE JUST YET BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T, WE DON'T HAVE OFFICIAL APPLICATION FOR THE PROJECT YET 'CAUSE THE USE IS NOT PERMITTED JUST YET.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATE COMING.
UM, ONCE THE ORDINANCE, WE ANTICIPATE THE ORDINANCE BEING ADOPTED BY YOU ALL.
UM, WE DO ANTICIPATE THE APPLICATION TO BE BE RECEIVED SOON AFTER.
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IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND UPDATE.MR. DERRICK DAVIS, COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY IS GOING TO COME FORTH WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UH, IT'S A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW THE GREAT
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SURY SOLAR DEBATE.UH, SO I'LL HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE LESS CONTROVERSIAL FOR YOU.
I WAS BEFORE YOU, UH, TWICE PREVIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT THE OPIOID ABATEMENT SETTLEMENT FUNDS.
AND I'LL GIVE YOU A, A QUICK REFRESHER AGAIN, KIND OF SOME BACKGROUND ON WHERE WE ARE ARE WITH THAT.
UH, THERE WAS A BUNCH OF NATIONAL SETTLEMENTS THAT, UH, FROM OPIOID DISTRIBUTORS THAT WERE GIVEN OUT TO DIFFERENT STATES AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY TO THE LOCALITIES WITHIN THAT STATE.
SO THERE IS A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF MONEY EARMARKED FROM NOW UNTIL 2022 THROUGH 2039, SPECIFICALLY FOR SURREY COUNTY.
UH, THE VIRGINIA LEGISLATURE CREATED, UH, THE OPIOID ABATEMENT AUTHORITY, WHICH IS THE AGENT STATE AGENCY THAT MANAGES THESE FUNDS.
SO WE HAVE, THERE ARE TH THREE DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY, ESSENTIALLY IN WITHIN THE OPIOID ABATEMENT.
THERE ARE WHAT'S CALLED DIRECT FUNDS INDIVIDUAL DISTRIBUTIONS AND GOLD STANDARD DISTRIBUTIONS.
THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER, A FOURTH BOT, WHICH IS THE COOPERATIVE PARTNERSHIP GRANT FUND.
AND SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IS WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH, WELL, I'M ASKING YOU TO AGREE TO A PARTNERSHIP, BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HOPEWELL PRINCE, GEORGE DENWITTY AND SUSSEX COUNTY, UH, ALONG WITH THE DISTRICT 19 COMMUNITY SERVICES BOARD FOR, UH, COOPERATIVE PARTNERSHIP APPLICATION.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO TONIGHT IS ESSENTIALLY SIGN THIS APPLICATION AND APPROVE THAT.
AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO ENTER INTO, UM, AN AGREEMENT WITH THOSE OTHER LOCALITIES AND SUBMIT A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE OPIOID ABATEMENT AUTHORITY BY THE APRIL 1ST DEADLINE.
AND I TALKED TO YOU A LITTLE BIT BEFORE ABOUT WHAT THE PROJECT IS, AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S GONNA BE A MOBILE OVERDOSE RESPONSE UNIT.
AND THIS WOULD, UH, BE, IT WOULD BE MANAGED THROUGH DISTRICT 19 COMMUNITY SERVICES BOARD, WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY A STAFF OF A CERTIFIED PEER RECOVERY RECOVERY SPECIALIST, AND THEN POSSIBLY A LAW ENFORCEMENT AND EMS ATTACHMENT TO THAT.
UH, ALL THAT FUNDING WOULD COME OUT OF THE GRANT FUNDING.
SO WHAT WOULD, THIS WOULD REQUIRE? ZERO GENERAL FUND DOLLARS FROM THE COUNTY.
UH, SO IF, IF THE GRANT IS APPROVED AND THE COOPERATIVE PARTNERSHIP, UH, FUNDING IS APPROVED, THEN WE WOULD CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE OTHER LOCALITIES ON, UH, PUTTING TOGETHER A DETAILED OPERATING PROCEDURES FOR THIS PROGRAM.
AND THEY DO REQUEST SOME MATCH FROM YOU, UH, TO MAKE YOUR APPLICATION MORE COMPETITIVE.
BUT THROUGH OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OPIOID ABATEMENT AUTHORITY, WE ARE ABLE TO USE OUR INDIVIDUAL AND GOLD STANDARD FUNDS THAT WE'RE RECEIVING FROM THEM AS THE MATCH.
SO THESE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE COMING FROM THEM, UH, THAT HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON TIME LIMITS WHEN THEY CAN BE SPENT, RESTRICTIONS ON HOW THEY CAN BE USED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF OPIOID ABATEMENT.
AND WE ARE ABLE TO USE THE FUNDS THEY'RE GIVING US TO THEN TURN AROUND AND APPLY FOR MORE FUNDS FROM THEM.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA, UH, CALL FOR ANY GENERAL FUND DOLLARS.
UH, IF YOU'LL NOTICE TO THE, IN THE AGREEMENT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, PRINCE GEORGE AND SURREY IN THE, THE CHART IN THAT AGREEMENT ALSO SHOWS THE DIRECT DIRECT DISTRIBUTION THROUGH OUR SORT OF NEGOTIATIONS OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE PALATABLE FOR OUR RESPECTIVE BOARDS.
WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED IN THERE THAT SURREY AND PRINCE GEORGE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WITHHOLD THAT DIRECT DISTRIBUTION AS A MATCH.
AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU, WHEN YOU APPROVE IT TONIGHT, YOU GIVE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION THE ABILITY TO, UH, WITHHOLD THAT AMOUNT OF DIRECT DISTRIBUTION IF, UH, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION DECIDES IT'S APPROPRIATE BEFORE THAT MARCH 14TH DATE.
AND THAT WOULD BE WITHOUT ANY PENALTY.
AND THE REASON I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IS BECAUSE OVER THE YEARS, UH, OF THIS PROJECT, TOWARD THE END OF IT, THERE MAY BE A DECREASE IN WHAT THE OPIOID ABATEMENT AUTHORITY IS GONNA PROVIDE.
AND UH, OUR PLAN WAS THAT WHEN OTHER LOCALITIES THEN MAY HAVE TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME MONEY, IF THEY WANNA CONTINUE THE PROJECT, THEY CAN ALWAYS BACK OUT.
YOU CAN ALWAYS BACK OUT OF THE PROJECT, UM, IF IT GETS TO THAT POINT.
BUT IF YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT, IF IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL, UH, THEN AT SOME POINT WHEN THE OPIOID ABATEMENT AUTHORITY DOLLARS RUN OUT, YOU WOULD BE LOOKING FOR SOME SORT OF MATCH TO CONTINUE IT IF YOU WANTED TO.
OUR PLAN WAS IF WE WITHHOLD THOSE DIRECT DISTRIBUTION DOLLARS FROM 22 THROUGH 39, WE COULD THEN USE THOSE TO CONTINUE FUNDING THE PROJECT FOR YEARS IN THE FUTURE, STILL WITHOUT USING ANY GENERAL FUND DOLLARS.
'CAUSE THEY WERE ALL, THEY, THOSE ARE ALL OPIOID ABATEMENT DOLLARS.
UM, AND I OFTEN GET ASKED THE QUESTION OF KIND OF THE NEED FOR, FOR THIS IN, SIR, IS, IS THE SUBSTANCE USE PROBLEM, UH, THAT BAD? I, I WOULD SAY IT IS.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS, OUR REGION, WHICH INCLUDES THE DISTRICT 19 AREA, IS ONE
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OF THE HIGHER AVERAGES IN THE STATES FOR OVERDOSE.UM, THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH COLLECTING DATA AND THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THIS, UM, MOBILE RESPONSE UNIT WOULD DO, WOULD BE COLLECTING DATA.
AND SO SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE DATA COLLECTION ARE, THEY'RE INPUT DIFFERENTLY THROUGH DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
SO SOME OF THESE OVERDOSES GO STRAIGHT TO HOSPITAL, SOME OF THEM ARE REPORTED THROUGH EMS, SOME THROUGH LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, AND SOME NOT REPORTED AT ALL.
AND ANECDOTALLY, JUST THINKING OF STACK OF CASES ON MY DESK BEFORE I LEFT THE OFFICE TODAY, UH, THREE, I WAS WORKING ON THIS AFTERNOON WHERE A FENTANYL OVERDOSE RESULTING IN A, IN A CRASH WITH A CHILD IN A VEHICLE, UH, A OPIOID OVERDOSE ON THE FERRY WITH POSSESSION AND A SUBSTANCE ABUSE, FUEL ABDUCTION AND SEXUAL ASSAULT WERE JUST THREE CASES THAT WERE ON MY DESK I WAS LOOKING AT BEFORE WALKING OVER HERE.
SO, UH, ANECDOTALLY I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU IT'S ALSO A PROBLEM.
SO THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR YOU TO DO TODAY, IS JUST TO PROVE THIS COOPERATIVE PARTNERSHIP SO THAT WE CAN APPLY TO THE OPIOID ABATEMENT AUTHORITY FOR THIS GRANT WITH THE OTHER LOCALITIES.
AND ALSO, UH, IT'S NOT GONNA REQUIRE ANY, ESSENTIALLY, LABOR COSTS FROM US EITHER BECAUSE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY IS GONNA BE ACTING AS THE FISCAL AGENT TO MANAGE THE FUNDS AND BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I JUST, I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION.
HAVE THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS, UH, SIGNED OFF ON THIS AS V SO WE ARE THE FORTUNATE ONES TO BE THE FIRST ONES TO GET IT IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.
UH, HOPEWELL AND PRINCE HOPEWELL TABLED THEIRS TO THEIR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS I BELIEVE IN TWO WEEKS.
UH, AT PRINCE GEORGE'S MEETING, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE EARLIER THIS WEEK.
I THINK THEIR MEETING WAS CANCELED OR DELAYED.
UM, BUT IT ALSO, IF YOU LOOK IN THE AGREEMENT, IT SAYS THAT IF ANY OTHER LOCALITY DECIDES TO NOT AGREE TO FUND IT AT THE FULL AMOUNT NOTED IN THE AGREEMENT OR DOESN'T SIGN IT AT ALL, THEN WE STILL HAVE THE PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LOCALITIES THAT THAT ARE, THAT HAVE SIGNED IT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY ADD, UM, I CAN, I CAN AFFIRMATIVELY STATE THAT THE ATTORNEYS FOR ALL THE, UH, PARTICIPATING JURISDICTIONS HAVE REVIEWED THE AGREEMENT AND HAVE APPROVED THE AGREEMENT AS TO FORM AND LEGAL SUFFICIENCY SO THAT THAT STEP HAS, HAS ALREADY OCCURRED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS, MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
MR. PIERCE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MR. DAVIS.
I WAS LOOKING OVER, UM, UH, A COUPLE DAYS AGO, UM, AND I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, I GUESS YOU DID ANSWER IT, BUT I WANTED TO KNOW LIKE, HOW DO WE MEASURE THE METRICS, LIKE AS FAR AS THE, LIKE HOW DO WE KNOW IT'S WORKING FOR US? AND THEN TWO, I'M LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND SEEING THAT WE, OUR CONTRIBUTION IS NOT AS, UH, SIGNIFICANT AS OTHER LOCALITIES, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE GET KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU DO IT THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, SO, YEAH.
SO THAT HAS BEEN A HEAVY TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AND THAT IS WHY IT TOOK SO LONG TO GET THIS IN A POSITION TO BRING TO THE BOARDS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT DIFFERENT LOCALITIES WITH DIFFERENT NEEDS, CONTRIBUTING DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF MONEY.
SO THERE IS AN AGREEMENT THAT WHEN WE COME UP WITH THE OPERATING PROCEDURES, THAT THAT IS GONNA BE TOP OF MIND TO MAKE SURE THAT A LOCALITIES THAT HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE CERTAINLY THE LARGER LOCALITIES ARE GONNA HAVE MORE NEED.
BUT SO WE'VE AGREED ON, UH, COMING UP WITH AN EQUITABLE SHARING OF THE RESOURCES.
ADDITIONALLY, THE RESOURCES ARE NOT GONNA BE HOUSED BY ANY ONE JURISDICTION.
SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT'S GONNA BE IS, UH, SOME STAFF IN A VEHICLE AND, AND SOME EQUIPMENT.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE MANAGED IN UNDER THE DIRECTION OF DISTRICT 19 COMMUNITY SERVICES BOARD, WHICH PROVIDES SERVICES TO EVERYONE IN THE LOCALITY.
BUT, UH, YES, THAT, THAT WAS THE BIG CONCERN IS WELL, IT'S SMALLER JURISDICTION BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING IN LESS MONEY, RECEIVE LESS SERVICES AND, AND NO, IT'S, UH, ESSENTIALLY ONE OF THE OPTIONS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS WHEN THE REPORTS COME IN, COMES IN ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS.
SO EVEN THOUGH HOPEWELL MIGHT HAVE 50 MORE PEOPLE WAITING, IF OURS COMES IN LINE, THAT'S THE ORDER IT GOES IN.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST ONE OPTION, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND THOSE DETAILS WILL SORT OF, UH, WORK OUT IF WE GET THE FUNDING AND THE GRANTS APPROVED.
AND I THINK THERE WAS A, A SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION ABOUT, UH, AS FAR AS THE METRICS.
HOW DO WE EVALUATE? SO, SO THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO WITH THIS STAFF IS, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO, SO OUR MEETINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, WE'VE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT, FROM EMS, FROM EMERGENCY SERVICES.
SO WE'RE BRINGING ALL THOSE PEOPLE TOGETHER AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, CODING THROUGH THEIR DISPATCHES, THROUGH RESPECTIVE
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DISPATCHES SO THAT WE CAN USE THE SAME METRIC TO MEASURE ACROSS LOCALITIES.AND THAT WHEN EMS OR LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPOND TO A SCENE.
THERE'S A SPECIFIC CODING IN THEIR DISPATCH REPORTS, UH, THAT WILL MARK IT AS EITHER OPIOID OVERDOSE OR SUBSTANCE USE RELATED.
UH, WE, WE GET SOME OF THAT INFORMATION NOW BECAUSE A LOT OF DISPATCH WILL SHOW IF NARCAN WAS DISTRIBUTED, BUT IT'S BEING DONE DIFFERENTLY ACROSS DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND ACROSS DIFFERENT COUNTIES.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO, UM, WITH THIS SYSTEM AS WELL, IS MAKE IT MORE UNIFORM.
AND, AND ONE LAST QUESTION IF BY ME, MR. CHAIR.
UM, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE, I GUESS, LAW ENFORCEMENT EMS, UM, HOW IS THAT REALLY IMPACTING OUR COUNTY? IS IT LIKE, SO IT'S, THIS IS NOT GONNA BE LAW ENFORCEMENT OR EMS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING IN THE COOPERATIVE GRANT APPLICATION PAYS FOR THAT.
SO IT WOULD BE A, A FULL-TIME EMS PERSON, A PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST.
THAT'S WHAT THESE FUNDS ARE PAYING FOR.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GONNA SAY, UH, WHEN THEY GO OUT IN OUR JURISDICTION, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY FROM OUR EMS GO WITH THEM.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SOMEBODY ON STAFF ALREADY THAT GOES WITH THEM.
UH, FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PIECE, THERE'S GONNA BE FUNDING IN THERE, ESSENTIALLY TO, TO PAY AN OFF-DUTY OFFICER.
UH, AND I THINK THE, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS, I, I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU THE RATE BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME RATE DISTRICT 19 CURRENTLY USES WHEN THEY REQUEST, UH, OFF-DUTY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO GO WITH THEM FOR, FOR ASSISTANCE.
SO THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING OFF-DUTY OFFICERS WANTING TO VOLUNTEER TO GO DO THIS WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING PAID SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THEIR CURRENT RATES.
AND IT'S, UM, SO IT'S A PRETTY HIGH HOURLY RATE.
APPRECIATE YOU FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? THERE'LL BE NONE.
WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE VIRGINIA OPIOID ABATEMENT AUTHORITY COOPERATIVE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT FOR COOPERATIVE APPLICATION AND, UH, GET THE APPROPRIATE SIGNATURES.
AND COULD, COULD I ALSO ASK THAT YOU INCLUDE IN THAT MOTION THE ABILITY FOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATION TO WITHHOLD, UM, YES.
ANY AMOUNT OF DIRECT DISTRIBUTION FUNDS IF THEY DEEM NECESSARY.
SO MOVED AND
COULD WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE VOTING SIGN OF OUR OPPOSED.
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UH, OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT? YES.GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIRMAN.
GOOD MADAM ADMINISTRATOR AND HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LONG EVENING AND WE'VE GOT SOME MORE TO GO, SO I'LL BE BRIEF.
UM, THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF PICTURES FROM, UH, A REALLY NICE PIECE THAT WAS DONE.
MOST OF YOU PROBABLY SAW IT JANUARY 27TH.
THIS WAS AIRED, UH, 12 ON YOUR SIDE AND TO TALK ABOUT SURY AND SOME OF THE TOURISM OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE IN HERE IN THE COUNTY.
AND IT WAS AN EXCELLENT PIECE.
MS. ROLLINS AND PAT, UH, BERNHAUSEN DID A GREAT JOB.
SO, UH, AND I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT AND TELL YOU ABOUT THE, THE LAUNCH, UH, THAT IS GONNA BE HAPPENING.
IT WILL, UH, ACTUALLY BE A MAY THROUGH OCTOBER SERIES THAT WILL BE ON FIRST FRIDAYS, UH, ON THE LAWN.
AND IT IS GOING TO BE, UH, UH, IT'S MUSIC ON THE LAWN.
I SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING SOON THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT OUT.
AND HERE'S OUR NEW LOGO FOR OUR SURREY COUNTY, UH, FIRST FRIDAYS MUSIC ON THE LAWN.
AND IT'S GONNA BE AT THE PAVILION.
AND WE PLAN TO HAVE A FEW MORE PICNIC TABLES BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE FOOD TRUCKS.
SO YOU'LL COME HUNGRY, YOU'LL LISTEN TO MUSIC AND JUST HAVE A GREAT TIME.
BUT BRING YOUR LAWN CHAIRS 'CAUSE THE SEATING WILL NOT BE PROVIDED.
BUT, UH, HEY, COME ON IN AND JOIN US WITH, FOR SOME OF THE FOOD TRUCKS AND ACTIVITIES.
NOPE, THAT'S NOT WHERE I WAS GOING.
WELL, I'LL JUST TALK ABOUT THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE LOVE SIGN PROJECT DONE, AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAD
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APPROVED THAT SOME TIME AGO.I HAVE A PICTURE, BUT I WASN'T GONNA SHOW IT TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA DO IT UNVEILING IN THE SPRING.
AND IT IS, UH, MADE OUTTA SOLID STEEL.
SO IT IS GONNA BE AROUND FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
THERE'S SOME SPECIAL LIGHTING THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, THERE TO ENHANCE THE PROJECT WHERE WE CAN CHANGE COLORS, UH, ON THE PROJECT.
LIKE IF WE WERE, UM, REPRESENTING OCTOBER, UH, UH, BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH, WE COULD HAVE PINK LIGHTING ON IT.
WE'LL LET YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO KEEP EVERYTHING TOP SECRET TILL THEN.
UM, THANK YOU MS. CHAPLIN AND FOR, UM, THE TEAM FOR WORKING ON THOSE INITIATIVES.
WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE FIRST FRIDAYS ON THE LAWN, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BREAKING ON THAT.
AND THE ONLY OTHER THING, MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S JUST THE TWO BILLING OFFICIAL REPORTS, UM, THAT ARE SHOWN HERE INSTEAD OF UNDER REPORTS.
AND, UM, OTHER THAN THE EVENT THAT'S HAPPENING TOMORROW AT PARKS AND RECREATION, THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, I THINK THEY'RE GETTING SOME BUZZ ON THAT.
SO IF CITIZENS WANT TO COME OUT AND JOIN THAT EVENT, THAT IS AVAILABLE.
AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL ADD WITH THESE, UM, EVENTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE AT OUR PAVILION, THOSE ARE THE PERFECT SPOTS FOR SOCIAL CONNECTIVITY AND PERHAPS CITIZENS TO COME OUT AND ENGAGE WITH ONE ANOTHER AND ENJOY A GREAT TIME.
THE REPORTS ARE IN OUR PACKAGES OF FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, AND AT THIS TIME,
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WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR, UH, BOARD COMMENTS.THERE'LL BE ANY MR. MR. HARDY.
I WANNA WELCOME ALL OUR, UH, WELCOME AGAIN TO, UH, MS. ZARIA.
SO YOU CAN SEE THINGS, CAN GETTING A LITTLE, UM, TESTED SOMETIMES.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THANKS FOR, UH, STICKING IT OUT AND, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, YOUR, YOUR INPUT AND, UH, AND, UH, THINGS YOU CARRY BACK TO YOUR, YOUR PEERS AS WELL.
UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I'M NOT GONNA COMMENT ON SOME OF SITTING THIS AS WEAPON KNIFE, BECAUSE WHAT ESCAPES ME IS A LIE THAT WAS TOLD ON OUR ACCOUNT ADMINISTRATOR, NOT THE CRAP YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT WHAT THIS CASE ME IS THE LIE THAT'S BEING PERPETUATED BY YOUR GROUP AND OTHERS SAYING THAT SHE DIRECTLY CALLED SOMEBODY TWO MEMBERS A RACIST.
I WON'T FIND IT 'CAUSE IT'S NOT IN THERE.
OKAY? AND THE OTHER GENTLEMAN, I WOULD NOT, MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT, NOT BE, WOULD NOT BE INFRINGED UPON.
THE BEST WAY FOR ME TO NOT REPLY TO YOU IS DON'T TAG ME.
ALRIGHT? I HAVEN'T VIOLATED ANY CODE OF ETHICS.
OKAY? IF YOU CAN, I DON'T KNOW, OTHER THAN THAT.
I'D JUST LIKE TO, UM, THANK ALL THE PARTICIPANTS WHO PARTICIPATED IN, IN, UM, THE, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UM, UH, THANK YOU FOR, UM, THE STAFF AND, UM, UM, PLANNING GROUP.
EXCUSE ME, FOR PROVIDING US INFORMATION, UH, ON THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THE FOLKS WHO CAME UP AND SPOKE, UH, SHARING THEIR COMMENTS.
AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING.
AND, UH, I WISH Y'ALL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
UM, AS I'VE ALWAYS SAID, IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU ALL COME OUT TO THE MEETING, UM, AND PUBLIC, UH, SPEAK PUBLICLY TO US, AND WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU.
AND THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT.
UH, GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE THAT'S STILL HERE WITH US, UH, THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING FROM HOME.
I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR TUNING IN.
UH, JUST A QUICK, UM, UPDATES.
UM, JUST WANT TO GIVE A HUGE SHOUT, UM, TO MISS, UH, ARIA HAROLD.
UM, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE, UH, SOME OUR YOUTH UP HERE TO SEE EXACTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A LEADER, AND HOPEFULLY WE COULD GET TO MOVE, UH, MOVE A FUTURE LEADER WITH HER.
SO THANK YOU FOR, UM, UM, ACCEPTING OUR INVITATION.
UM, I ALSO WANT TO, UH, GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT JUST TOS COUNTY, UM, YOU KNOWS, COUNTY SHOWED OUT TONIGHT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS, I MEANT I THINK SOME PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED TONIGHT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN OUR SEATS.
BUT AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I TAKE PRIDE IN WHAT I DO.
I TAKE PRIDE IN, IN SERVING MY COMMUNITY AND SERVING MY CONSTITUENTS.
UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DO LISTEN.
UM, MR. HARDY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT PEOPLE, UM, OF, UH, PERPETUATING LIES.
YOU KNOW, I HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LISTEN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AS FAR FROM TRUE.
UH, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, BY US WORKING TOGETHER, COLLABOR COLLABORATIVELY, UM, DOING
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OUR DUE DILIGENCE AS FAR AS WORKING WITH VARIOUS, UH, UM, COMMITTEES AND, AND, AND ENSURING THAT WHEN WE MAKE OUR VOTES AND MAKE OUR DECISIONS UP HERE, WE'RE MAKING A SOUND, UH, DECISION BASED ON NOT JUST CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS, BUT THE WHOLE ENTIRE S COUNTY.I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR THIS JOB, WAS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF ALL S COUNTY CITIZENS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I ENSURE TO DO WHILE I'M SITTING IN, IN THIS POSITION.
SO, AGAIN, UH, THANK FOR EVERYONE.
A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO BLACK HISTORY MONTH FOR THOSE WHO HAVE, UH, PAID FORTH TO MAKE SURE THAT I CAN SIT IN THE SEAT THAT I'M SERVING IN TODAY.
AND I'M SURE THAT I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST AND CONTINUE TO SERVE IT AS A STRONG LEADER, ENSURING THAT S COUNTY HAS, UH, THIS BEST INTEREST IN INTEGRITY OF S COUNTY IS INTACT SO Y'ALL CAN ENSURE THAT.
AND ALSO TOO, I CAN'T LEAVE WITHOUT SAYING HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY.
YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS TENSION AND EVERYTHING HERE TONIGHT.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CELEBRATE A WEEKEND OF LOVE.
UH, MAKE SURE YOU GET YOUR LOVED ONES.
AND, UH, FOR ALL MY FELLOWS, DON'T FORGET YOUR, UH, VALENTINE'S DAY.
FOR YOUR VALENTINE'S DAY GIFT FOR YOUR VALENTINE.
I WOULD JUST, UH, LIKE TO SAY DITO TO ALL THE COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS, AND I WANT TO PERSONALLY WELCOME ZARIA CORLL WITH US.
UH, IT'S NOT LIKE THIS EVERY MEETING.
NO, IT'S NOT LIKE THIS EVERY MEETING, IT'S JUST, UH, WE DEALING WITH SOME VERY HOT TOPIC ISSUES HERE IN THE COUNTY.
BUT, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, SOMETIME A TOUGH SEAT TO SIT IN.
BUT, UH, CITIZENS HAVE ELECTED US TO, UH, DO OUR VERY BEST TO MAKE SURE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS, IS GOOD FOR THEM.
SO, UH, WE JUST THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GREAT THINGS CONTINUALLY HAPPENING IN SURY COUNTY.
AND, UH, WE HAVE SOME VERY EXCITING THINGS.
IT'S RIGHT ON THE HORIZON, SO, UH, BEAR WITH US AS WE CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO MAKE SURY THE BEST THAT IT CAN BE.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A, A MOTION CODE SECTION FROM
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OUR ATTORNEY TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.YOUR MOTION REQUIRED TODAY IS TO CONVENE ENC CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO NUMBER ONE, VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2 37 11 A 0.1, TO DISCUSS APPOINTMENTS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, AND THE BOARD OF HISTORIC AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2 37 11 A2 NINE FOR DISCUSSION OF THE AWARD OF A PUBLIC CONTRACT INVOLVING THE EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS WHERE DISCUSSION IN OPEN SESSION WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY REGARDING COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PROGRAMS. AND I WILL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A ROLL CALL.
WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME.
BOARD MEMBERS NOW WE, UH, DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO RECONVENE AND WE CALL ON OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR THE CERTIFICATION OF CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME FOR US TO COME BACK TO OPEN SESSION.
YOUR RESOLUTION CERTIFYING CLOSED SESSION, WHEREAS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF SURREY COUNTY HAS CONVENED A CLOSED SESSION ON THE STATE PURSUANT TO AN AFFIRMATIVE RECORDED VOTE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
AND WHEREAS SECTION 2.2 37 12 SUBSECTION D OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES A CERTIFICATION BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF SURREY COUNTY.
THAT SUCH CLOSE MEETING WAS CONDUCTED IN CONFORMITY WITH VIRGINIA LAW.
NOW BE IT NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF SURREY COUNTY HEREBY CERTIFIES THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONE, ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS.
LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS BY VIRGINIA LAW WERE DISCUSSED IN THE CLOSED SESSION TO WHICH THE CERTIFICATION RESOLUTION APPLIES.
AND TWO, ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION CONVENING.
THE CLOSED MEETING WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF SURREY COUNTY.
I WILL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A ROLL CALL VOTE.
WE'RE BACK NOW IN OPEN SESSION AND WE HAVE TWO MATTERS BEFORE US TO CONSIDER.
AND AGAIN, WE, UH, REFER BACK TO MS. PERKINS.
UM, IF THERE ARE ANY MOTIONS, UM, COMING OUT OF CLOSED SESSION FOR ACTION ITEMS, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME FOR THOSE TO BE PROPOSED.
WE'RE HAVING MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING APPOINTMENTS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION.
I HAVE MR. EARL NEWBIE REAPPOINT FOR TERM JULY 1ST, 2024 THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2028,
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DENON DISTRICT WILLIAM SEWARD REAPPOINTMENT FOR TERM JULY 1ST, 2024 THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2028 CLAREMONT.FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AUTHORITY, YOU HAVE MR. JOHN PRICE REAPPOINTMENT FROM TERM AUGUST 1ST TWO, 2024 THROUGH JULY 31ST, 2028, BACONS CASTLE DISTRICT HOWARD GODFREY REAPPOINTMENT FOR TERM AUGUST 1ST, 2024 THROUGH JULY 31ST, 2028 AT LARGE.
MEMBER ERNEST BLUNT REAPPOINTMENT.
FEBRUARY 13TH, 2025 TO JULY 31ST, 2026 TO FILL THE UNEXPIRED TERM OF TERRY LEWIS DEN DISTRICT.
THEN YOU HAVE, LASTLY, YOU HAVE THE BOARD OF HISTORIC AND ARCHITECTURAL, UH, REVIEW.
UH, YOU HAVE KEVIN SPAIN REAPPOINTMENT FOR TERM OF OCTOBER THE FIRST 2024 THROUGH SEPTEMBER THE 30TH, 2029 DN DISTRICT.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, YOU HAVE DAVID COGGIN TERM OF MARCH THE FIRST 2025 THROUGH FEBRUARY 28TH, 2030, TO SERVE AS THE REQUIRED PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF HISTORIC AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
HE REPRESENTS THE CARS OF DISTRICT.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I APOLOGIZE THERE, THERE WAS ONE ERROR IN THE INFORMATION I PROVIDED MR. PIERCE WITH, UH, KEVIN SPAIN'S TURN WOULD BEGIN ON TEN ONE OF 23.
YOU INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR MOTION, MR. PIERCE? YES.
I, UH, AND, UH, I ALSO WANT TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION FOR KEVIN SPAIN.
HIS REAPPOINTMENT IS FROM TERM TEN ONE TWENTY TWENTY 2023 TO NOVEMBER, EXCUSE ME, SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2029.
COULD WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND PROPERLY MOVE.
AND SECOND, IF THE, ARE THE QUESTIONS ALL IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE VOTING SIGN OF AYE.
MR. MR. I APOLOGIZE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I, I, I, YOU DIDN'T HIRE ME FOR MY MATHEMATICAL SKILLS.
UM, THE, THE, THE TERM OF KEVIN SPAIN SHOULD BE FROM TEN ONE TWENTY THREE TO 9 30 28.
MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO REFLECT KEVIN SPAIN'S TERM REAPPOINTMENT TERM FROM OCTOBER THE FIRST 2023 TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2028.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER MOTIONS AT THIS TIME? UH, CHAIR MR. HARDY, I MOTION BEFORE THE BOARD THIS EVENING.
I PROUDLY MAKE, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, COUNTY ATTORNEY AND STAFF TO CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE YMCA OF VIRGINIA PENINSULA REGARDING THE SCOPE AND PROVISIONS AND PROCEED TO EXECUTE THE LETTER OF INTENT DRAFTED BY THE YMCA REGARDING A FUTURE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT RELATING TO THE DELIVERY OF NEEDS, SERVICES AND PROGRAMS AS IDENTIFIED BY THE COMMUNITY WITH UNDERSTANDING THAT ANY FUTURE CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENT WILL BE SUBJECT TO BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
YOU HAVE A MOTION? HAVE A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY THE VOTING AND SIGN.
WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT UNTIL FEBRUARY THE 26TH.
MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I'M SO SORRY.
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN HERE ALL NIGHT.
UH, WHO SECOND THE MOTION? MR. MR. OKAY.
I THINK WE DID AT THE SAME TIME.
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN HERE ALL NIGHT AND I WANT TO JUST, UH, I KNOW IT WAS A, A LONG MEETING AND WE HAD A LOT TO GO OVER.
BUT AGAIN, BEFORE WE ADJOURNED THE MEETING, UM, I, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE DECISION THAT WE MADE AS FAR AS THE A ES PROJECT, AND I WANTED JUST TO, YOU KNOW, WHY WE'RE IN DISCUSSION.
UM, JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE MAKING THE BEST DECISION FOR THE COUNTY AND UNDERSTANDING, I KNOW WE DENIED THE, WE ALL VOTED, I MADE THE MOTION TO DENY IT.
WE ALL AGREE, UH, VOTED, UH, AGREED TO THAT I MAYBE CONSIDER, UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHEN I MADE MY COMMENTS, I SAID IT COULD BE SOME TWEAKING AND I DON'T WANT TO, I GUESS, GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY NOT TO FIX SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE COULD, UM, SUGGEST, ESPECIALLY IN THE SIGHTING AGREEMENT.
SO I ASKED IF WE COULD POSSIBLY RECONSIDER THAT MOTION, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, TO POSSIBLY, UH, RECONSIDER THE MOTION, MAYBE TABLE IT AND THAT ALSO TOO, MAYBE GIVE MS JURY SOME TIME TO GIVE HER FEEDBACK ON IT AS WELL.
SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN AMENDMENT? NO, I'M ASKING, UH, NO SIR.
I'M ASKING TO, UH, RECONSIDER THE MOTION.
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MR. PERKINS LEGAL, LEGAL ADVICE? UH, YES, SIR.SO, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE UP THE MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION.
IF THAT MOTION PASSED, THEN UM, MR. PIERCE COULD PRESENT AN ALTERNATE MOTION TO TABLE THE ITEM BOARD MEMBERS.
UH, MR. PIERCE, MR. PIERCE IS MAKING A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION, UM, OF THE MOTION THAT HE MADE WITH A ES IN REGARDS TO THE CUP AND THE CITING AGREEMENT.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION BEING NO.
THE MOTION DIES ON THE FLOOR, CORRECT? AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT UNTIL FEBRUARY THE 26TH AT 10? YES.
WHERE, WHERE'S THAT GONNA BE? IS THERE TO BE DETERMINED HERE.