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RIGHT.[Planning Commission on February 24, 2025.]
GOOD EVENING.WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE FEBRUARY 24TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING INTO ORDER.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND SO WE CAN RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC.
WHAT EACH STANDS NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A ROLL CALL.
MR. STEWART? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
THIS TIME WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE MEDIAN AGENDA UNLESS THERE ARE ANY CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES.
AND SECOND THAT WE ADOPT THE MEDIAN AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE A.
THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION IS CARRIED.
AND AT THIS TIME, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE STAFF AND MS. PERKIN.
UH, SO IN YOUR PACKET IS A DOCUMENT, UM, THAT OUTLINES CHANGES THAT WERE PROPOSED BY, UM, DIFFERENT PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
UH, SOME OF THESE WERE DISCUSSED AT OUR MEETING LAST MONTH.
UM, OTHERS OF THEM, UH, WERE PURSUANT TO OTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
UM, AS YOU MAY RECALL, AT THE LAST MEETING, I ASKED, UH, ALL OF YOU IF YOU HAD ANY SUGGESTIONS TO PLEASE REACH OUT TO MR. WADE AND MYSELF.
UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND RUN THROUGH THESE CHANGES, AND THEN WE CAN, WE CAN PAUSE, WE CAN DISCUSS, YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THEM.
UM, THESE CHANGES CAN BE ADOPTED.
UH, SO FIRST, UH, IF YOU TURN TO PAGE TWO, UM, IT, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE MEETING TIME FROM SEVEN O'CLOCK TO SIX O'CLOCK.
AND THEN THERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE.
ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE, UH, THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED BY, BY MR. WADE.
UM, AND HAS HIS RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS THAT WE, UH, SHIFT THE MEETINGS TO THE START TIME TO SIX O'CLOCK.
HOWEVER, MAKE ANY PUBLIC HEARING, THAT WOULD BE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AT SIX 30.
AND THAT WOULD BE ADVERTISED WHEN WE DO OUR REQUIRED ADVERTISEMENTS.
IT WOULD BE ADVERTISED FOR SIX 30.
SO, UM, THE, THOSE ARE THE, THE, THE THREE OPTIONS AVAILABLE.
KEEP IT AT SEVEN, CHANGE IT TO SIX, OR DO KIND OF A HYBRID OPTION, WHICH IS A SIX O'CLOCK START TIME AND A SIX 30 PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, WHAT WE WOULD DO IN THAT, IN THAT EVENT, IS WE WOULD MOVE THINGS AROUND ON THE AGENDA IF, UM, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SIX 15 AND WE WERE READY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS OR GOT REACHED THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT IS HOW THAT WOULD BE TACKLED.
UH, TURNING TO PAGE FOUR, UM, MS. CHEEK HAD RECOMMENDED SOME, SOME CHANGES TO, UM, LET'S JUST SAY TO, TO PUT IN WRITING TO CODIFY, UM, PUT IT IN WRITING WHAT MR. WADE IS CURRENTLY DOING.
BUT IF MR. WADE, YOU KNOW, WINS THE LOTTERY TOMORROW, UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SOME CONSISTENCY AND THAT IT WAS SPELLED OUT IN THE BYLAWS WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION EXPECTS FROM ITS ITS SECRETARY.
UM, SO WHAT I DID WAS, THERE IS A NEW SECTION G AT THE BOTTOM OF, UH, PAGE FOUR.
AND THAT, AGAIN IS UNDER THE, THE DUTIES OF THE SECRETARY.
AND IT READS, COMMUNICATE REGULAR REGULARLY WITH THE COMMISSION ON MATTERS RELEVANT TO THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION, SUCH AS CALENDAR REVIEW, DISCUSSION OF TOPICS OF INTEREST AND STATUS UPDATES ON PENDING AND FUTURE PROJECTS.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE, THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE.
AND, AND CERTAINLY WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THAT.
UH, BUT MS. CHICA, I BELIEVE WE CAPTURED ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE, THE POINTS THAT YOU WANTED TO GET ACROSS THAT YOU HAD PROPOSED.
LOOKING AT PAGE FIVE UNDER, UH, ARTICLE FIVE COMMITTEES UNDER NUMBER
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TWO, EACH COMMITTEE SHALL CONSIST OF NO FEWER THAN THREE AND NO MORE THAN FIVE COMMISSION MEMBERS.THIS ONE, THIS CHANGE WAS DISCUSSED AT YOUR LAST MEETING.
THE REASON WE ARE CAPPING IT AT FIVE IS BECAUSE SIX OF YOU WOULD CONSTITUTE A QUORUM OF THE ENTIRE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO WE WANTED TO, TO AVOID INADVERTENTLY CREATING A MEETING OF THE FULL COMMISSION WHEN WE WERE JUST TRYING TO HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING.
UH, TURNING TO PAGE SIX, UNDER, UH, ARTICLE SEVEN ORDER OF BUSINESS.
UH, THIS IS A CHANGE THAT, UM, I RECOMMENDED, UM, IN LIGHT OF THE POTENTIAL OF HAVING A START TIME AT SIX O'CLOCK AND PUBLIC HEARINGS AT SIX 30.
AND THAT WOULD BE TO JUST CHANGE THE LANGUAGE TO READ.
THE ORDER OF BUSINESS AT REGULAR MEETINGS WILL GENERALLY INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. UM, THE EXISTING LANGUAGE OF SHALL BE AS FOLLOWS IS VERY RESTRICTIVE AND CONSTRICTS YOUR FLEXIBILITY.
UH, SO THIS WOULD BE A PROPOSED CHANGE TO PROVIDE, AGAIN, GREATER, GREATER FLEXIBILITY.
UH, THE NEXT CHANGE IS ON PAGE EIGHT, AND THAT IS UNDER, UH, ARTICLE 10, THE DOCKET.
AND IN SECTION FOUR, UM, ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
I WILL, WOULD YOU, I I'M SORRY.
WOULD YOU ALL LIKE ME TO KEEP READING THROUGH THINGS? I, OKAY.
UH, THE AGENDA SHALL BE HEARD.
SO THE FIRST OPTION IS WHAT MS. CHEEK ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, UM, WITH A, AN AMENDMENT OF FIVE DAYS.
SO THE CASES TO BE HEARD SHALL BE POSTED ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE IN AGENDAS NOT LESS THAN FIVE DAYS BEFORE EACH REGULAR MEETING.
AND THE AGENDA OF CASES TO BE HEARD AT AT A SPECIAL MEETING SHALL BE POSTED ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE IN AGENDAS AND ON THE DOOR OF THE MEETING PLACE, NOT LESS THAN 24 HOURS BEFORE SUCH SPECIAL MEETING.
SO MY PROPOSAL IS THAT WE, IF, IF A CHANGE IS DESIRED TO THE SECTION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE SAME LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THE BOARD'S BYLAWS, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR BYLAWS.
AND WHAT THAT WOULD READ IS THAT THE AGENDA AND ACCOMPANYING INFORMATION SHALL BE PUBLISHED TO EACH COMMISSIONER AT LEAST FIVE DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF SPECIAL OR EMERGENCY MEETINGS, WHEN AN AGENDA AND INFORMATION WILL BE PROVIDED AS SOON AS PRACTICAL PRACTICABLE.
SO PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA LAW, THE, THE MINUTE WE PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH, UM, WITH AN AGENDA AND AGENDA MATERIALS, THOSE AGENDA MATERIALS HAVE TO BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
SO THIS LANGUAGE ADHERES TO THAT VIRGINIA, VIRGINIA CODE REQUIREMENT.
UM, THERE IS NOTHING, UM, ILLEGAL WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS PROPOSED BY MS. CHEEK.
UM, JUST, IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS LANGUAGE IS.
I, I THINK THAT, UH, LESSENS CONFUSION FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
THE, AND THAT, THAT IS THE LAST CHANGE.
WELL, TECHNICALLY THE LAST CHANGE IS UPDATING THE, THE NEW DATE OF ADOPTION.
BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, OR PROPOSE.
UM, SO ON THE, WHEN YOU SAY THE PUBLIC HEARING AT SIX 30, THAT WILL INCLUDE THAT, THAT'S WHEN THE PRESENTATION FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL START.
IT COULD NOT START FROM, FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO START EARLIER THAN SIX 30 BECAUSE WE WOULD ADVERTISE IT, UM, FOR SIX 30.
WHAT, WHAT WAS THE DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION? I REMEMBER ONE TIME BEFORE WE WERE THINKING ABOUT SIX WORKS GREAT FOR ME, WE WERE GOING TO GO TO SIX AND THERE WAS SOME REASON WE WENT 'CAUSE DON'T THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEET AT SIX? THEY DO NOW.
THEN, I MEAN, WAS IT, I MEAN, I COULD SEE THE HEARING BECAUSE YOU WANT AS MANY CITIZENS THAT WORK IN NEWPORT NEWS TO BE ABLE TO GET HOME AND GET HERE.
I, I MEAN, WAS THERE OPPOSITION TO TO TO THIS TO SIX AND SIX 30 OR? YES.
I BELIEVE THAT, UM, NOT THE SIX 30 PART, NOT, NOT THE SIX 30 PART.
THE SIX 30 PART IS, IS, IS UP FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS EVENING.
UM, BUT THERE WERE SOME, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS EXPRESSED, UH, TO SWITCHING THE TIME FROM SEVEN O'CLOCK THE START TIME, RIGHT? FROM SEVEN O'CLOCK TO SIX O'CLOCK.
SO, SO AT SIX O'CLOCK WE WOULD JUST DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND OUR STUFF, OUR, OUR FORMALITIES IF YOU WILL.
AND THEN AT SIX 30, THE PUBLIC WOULD BE INVITED FOR THE PUBLIC
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HEARING.IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? RIGHT.
AT, AT SIX 30, THE PRESENTATION FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD, WOULD BEGIN OR AS YOU KNOW, AS SIX 30 OR LATER.
IF FOR SOME REASON, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BYLAWS DISCUSSION TOOK A LITTLE BIT LONGER AND THAT PUSHED US INTO 6 45.
ANYTHING AFTER SIX 30, ANYTHING AFTER THE ADVERTISED TIME IS FINE.
UM, BUT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BEGIN PRIOR TO THE ADVERTISED TIME.
NOW IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'RE LOOKING FOR PE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR US TO SAY, HEY, I, I LIKE SIX.
OR YOU, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE MR. WADE WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO VOTE ON IT TONIGHT? YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU, AT ONE POINT WE SAW THAT YOU HAVE A SIX O'CLOCK CROWD AND A SEVEN O'CLOCK CROWD, AND THERE THEY'RE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE YOU CAN KIND OF MEET OF, IF THE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE THAT WANNA START AT SIX O'CLOCK, YOU KNOW, THEY SEE DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THE PUBLIC MEETING TO, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'VE BEEN OUT FOR A WHILE, THE MEETINGS ARE LATE.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON.
BUT ALSO A SIX 30 STARTS FROM PUBLIC HEARING TIME ALLOWS FOLKS THAT WANNA ATTEND THE PUBLIC HEARING SOMETIME TO GET TO THE MEETING SO THAT THEY DON'T MISS IT.
SO THIS, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF SOMEWHAT OF A COMPROMISE.
UM, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU KINDA GET, YOU, YOU KINDA HEAR BOTH SIDES OF THE, OF IT WHEN WE START A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT MAYBE WE NOT DO THE PUBLIC HEARING PART UNTIL, TILL THAT 6, 6 30 MARK TO GIVE PEOPLE THAT, THAT LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS BEING THAT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF FLEXIBILITY, UM, FOR FOLKS.
SO HOW DO WE HANDLE EACH ITEM? DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION OR ARE WE JUST DISCUSSING IT INFORMALLY? WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL? I GUESS I, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DI DISCUSS IT INFORMALLY.
AND THEN, UM, WHEN, WHEN SOMEONE IS READY, THEY CAN MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE CHANGES INCLUDING 1, 2, 3, 4.
THEY'RE NOT THAT MANY CHANGES.
SO WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TACKLE IT.
SO THE MOTION WOULD BE INCLUDE THEM AS PRESENTED OR YES.
IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR A CHANGE, CAN I, CAN I MAKE THAT MOTION? OR, UM, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER DISCUSSIONS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO BYLAWS AND ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? WELL, JUST THIS ONE PARTICULAR, I MEAN, LET'S STILL HAVE SOME OTHERS.
YEAH, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE THING.
SO I HAVE ONE ON THE SECOND ONE.
YOU KNOW, I WAS KIND OF TALKING TO MR. BERRYMAN ABOUT IT A MINUTE AGO WHEN THE SECRETARY GIVES US THE, THE INFORMATION MM-HMM
IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET IT ELECTRONICALLY? I MEAN, COULD WE HAVE IT EMAILED, HAVE THIS EMAILED TO US VERSUS, UH, THE PA I MEAN, FOR ME, I CAN PUT IT ON MY 32 INCH MONITOR AND MY EYES LOVE IT SOMETIMES ON THIS ONE.
SO THE, USUALLY THE COMMUNICATION STUFF, A LOT OF TIMES, THESE ARE JUST POINTS THAT I JUST GIVE YOU DURING THE MEETING.
I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE PACKET.
I MEAN, IS IS THE PACKET, IS THAT PART OF THE SECRETARY'S? WE CAN GIVE THAT TO YOU.
WE CAN GIVE IT TO YOU EMAILED AS WELL.
ONE, ONE THING I WILL, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU, IT IS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE TOO.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER FORM THAT YOU CAN GO TO THE AGENDAS DOCUMENTS.
AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.
BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM EMAILING IT TO YOU, YOU EITHER TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR INBOX.
WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM DOING THAT.
BUT IT'S, IT'S ALSO IN THE AGENDA FOR THE PUBLIC, TYPICALLY WITHIN THE NEXT DAY AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION GETS THEIR PACKET.
AND WE USUALLY GET EVERYTHING OUT HERE BY, I THOUGHT, I THINK HE'S ASKING ABOUT THE STATUS OF PROJECTS AND WELL, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE AGENDA AND THIS PACKAGE.
IF, IF I MAY, AND MS. PERKINS, I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION AND, AND ON MY PART, I'LL SAY FROM ME ABOUT WHAT WE MEAN ABOUT PC SECRETARY COMMUNICATION BECAUSE THE AGENDA IS, IS SIMPLY LAID OUT FOR US.
MR. HARDBOARD, THIS POINT UP, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST PART OF THE AGENDA, IT SAYS PC SECRETARY COMMUNICATION.
SO ANYTHING THAT THE PC SECRETARY HAS TO COMMUNICATE TO US, HE IS DOING THAT, UM, VIA THE AGENDA AS IT'S PRESENTED.
WHETHER THAT'S MR. WADE, WHETHER THAT'S ANY OTHER PLANNING COMMISSION SECRETARY, THERE IS A SECTION ALREADY WRITTEN IN THE AGENDA FOR THEM TO COMMUNICATE THAT INFORMATION.
UH, FURTHERMORE, I KNOW MANY OF YOU SITTING ON THE COMMISSION, JUST LIKE I HAVE, HAVE ATTENDED SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS WHEN PROJECTS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO STAFF AND STAFF WANTS TO HAVE THE PRELIMINARY MEETINGS, MOST OF THE TIME THE PC SECRETARY WILL CALL WHOEVER'S IN THAT DISTRICT THAT THE PROJECT AFFECTS AND WE WILL HAVE THOSE MEETINGS AND THE, AND THE SECRETARY WILL COMMUNICATE WITH US.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF WRITING IN THE BYLAWS, I'M, I'M NOT SURE I AGREE WITH, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY IN THE AGENDA THAT THE PC SECRETARY IS TO COMMUNICATE WITH US.
AND IN MY OPINION, THE INTENT IS, BUT HIM OR WHOEVER THAT MAY BE TO COMMUNICATE ANYTHING AS IT RELATES TO ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE ACTIVE,
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ONGOING, OR THAT MAY BE COMING BEFORE US.AND I, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MR. WADE DOES.
NOW, IF, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY RESPONSE TO THAT, I'M, I'M HOPING TO HEAR IT, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S BEING DONE RIGHT NOW.
WELL, I, SINCE I MADE THE RECOMMENDATION, THE, THE, UM, IT'S NOT ALWAYS CONSISTENTLY COMMUNICATED.
I THINK SOMETIMES, UM, I KNOW I'VE ASKED QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THIS PROJECT OR THAT PROJECT? AND I, I'M NOT SAYING MR. WADE DOES A WONDERFUL JOB.
SO I'M NOT SAYING HE DOESN'T DO THAT.
SO DON'T GET ME WRONG ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN SORT OF GOING ON WHAT MR. COGGIN SAYS, YOU KNOW, HAVING IT WRITTEN, UM, FOR ME IT'S HELPFUL IF I WANT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THESE MEETINGS AREN'T RECORDED LIKE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE VIDEOS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
SO OFTEN I GO BACK TO REHEAR THINGS, UM, TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS SAID.
SO, UM, THAT WAS MY INTENT WHEN I MADE THIS RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, WE CODIFY THAT THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE GIVEN AT EACH MEETING, MORE OF A STATUS OF PROJECTS.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT I HAD THOUGHT.
BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE YOU ASKING THAT WHEN IT'S TIME FOR, TO DO THIS, UM, THE PC SECRETARY'S COMMISSION, DO YOU, DO YOU WANT A, OR ARE YOU ASKING FOR A WHOLE LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON? BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE JUST ASKING AS IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST MM-HMM
WELL, JUST WHAT WAS, WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE, AND IT MAY NOT EVEN HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MEETING THAT NIGHT, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, BECAUSE THE ONE RIGHT BEFORE IT, TO ME IT'S REDUNDANT.
YOU KNOW, UM, THE COMMITTEE UPDATES, I MEAN, USUALLY MR. WADE GIVES THAT PRESENTATION UNLESS THERE HE CALLS ON SOMEBODY THAT'S ON A SPECIAL COMMITTEE IN THE PAST AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS THE SECRETARY OF THING.
SO I'M, I'M, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS ARE, ARE WE ASKING HIM TO GIVE US EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON A LIST, YOU KNOW, AT EVERY MEETING OR, YOU KNOW, I HAD, BECAUSE THAT, THAT COULD BE JUST AS LONG AS THE MEETING IS MM-HMM
I MEAN, I DON'T, AM I MAKING ANY SENSE AT ALL THERE? BUT YOU, YOU, UH, AND IN ADDITION, IT WOULD BE STRENUOUS ON STAFF THAT THAT ALREADY HAS A, A LOT TO DO.
AND TO YOUR POINT, YOU ARE RIGHT.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS VIDEOTAPED OR RECORDED LIKE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO MR. WADE AND STAFF THAT IF WE DO HAVE QUESTIONS AS WE'RE REVIEWING THOSE, THAT WE ALWAYS CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL HIM OR COME IN AND SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH HIM.
AND, AND I'M SURE HE OR THE SENT AND ON STAFF WILL GO THROUGH THOSE RECORDED NOTES WITH US IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO, TO LOOK AT AND DETERMINE WHAT IT'S THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DISCIPLE.
SO I THINK HE'S MADE HIMSELF AVAILABLE AS WELL AS OTHER PLANNING, UM, DIRECTORS IN THE PAST E SINCE I'VE BEEN YES, SIR.
JUST THE, THE MEETINGS AT THIS POINT, THEY ARE BEING RECORDED TOO.
OH, SO THEY, THEY, THEY'RE ACTUALLY ARE, THEY ARE ACCESSIBLE.
UM, AT THE, UM, ON, ON OUR WEBSITE.
IT, IT GIVES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR IT TO BE PUBLISHED, BUT THEY ARE AVAILABLE AFTER AT AT LEAST WHAT, MAYBE ONE OR TWO WEEKS? SOMETIMES.
OH, SO IT JUST LIKE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, SO MM-HMM
THIS IS 1, 1, 1, 1 OF THE POINT, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE GROUPS THAT DOES GET RECORDED.
YOU JUST DON'T, YOU JUST DON'T NOTICE THEM.
'CAUSE THE CAMERAS ARE, ARE MOUNTED NOW, BUT YES.
THAT'S A NEW, THAT'S A RECENT, YEAH.
WELL, I KNOW THEY'VE ADDED THE TRANSCRIPTION MM-HMM
SO WHEN, WHEN THAT TRANSITION HAPPENED, THE DECISION WAS MADE TO RECORD THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS AND POST THEM.
SO THE SAME PLACE, WATCH A MEETING.
IF YOU GO ON OUR WEBSITE, YOU CAN FIND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS AS WELL.
SO YEAH, IF, IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT, LOOK AT WHAT I SAID BACK AGAIN IS WHAT I SAID WAS STILL TRUE, WILL STILL HOLD THE SAME TRUTH AND HOWEVER MANY HOW MANY DAYS YOU, YOU ELAPSED BETWEEN THE TIME THAT I SAID WHAT I SAID.
SO, BUT YEAH, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND LOOK, LOOK AT WHAT, WHAT WAS SAID AT THE MEAN, YOU'RE PROBABLY MORE LIKELY TO SEE MY FACE SAY UNDER THE CAMERA AS WELL.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
JUST MR. COGAN, YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE PACKETS, MAYBE OTHER THINGS AS WELL, AND THAT WAS REALLY, I WAS OFF KEY A LITTLE BIT.
'CAUSE THAT REALLY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT NOTE.
YOU KNOW, AFTER, AFTER I, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE EIGHT, THE LANGUAGE THAT, THAT I PROPOSED TO BE IN LINE WITH THE BOARD LANGUAGE THAT TALKS ABOUT SHOULD BE PUBLISHED TO EACH COMMISSIONER AT LEAST FIVE DAYS IN ADVANCE.
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THAT THAT IS CURRENTLY DONE WITH PAPER PACKETS.BUT THAT, THAT LANGUAGE WOULD BE BROAD ENOUGH TO, UM, ALLOW FOR ELE COMMUN ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION OF THE PACKETS.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.
UM, JUST BACK TO PAGE TWO WITH THE TIMEFRAME.
UM, I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO ALSO, UH, THINK ABOUT STAFF AS THEY'RE HERE EARLY IN THE MORNING AND LATE NIGHTS.
UH, SO THE TIMEFRAME START OF THE MEETING DOES, UH, BENEFIT THEM A LITTLE BIT SO THEY CAN GET HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES A LITTLE EARLIER AS WELL TOO.
UM, WE KNOW SEVEN O'CLOCK SOMETIMES I THINK A COUPLE OF OUR MEETINGS, WE'VE BEEN IN HERE AFTER NINE O'CLOCK.
SO I DO WANT EVERYBODY TO PLEASE NOT JUST THINK ABOUT US AS A COMMITTEE, BUT ALSO THINK ABOUT STAFF, UH, AND THEIR PERSONAL LIVES AS WELL TOO.
UH, WORK LIFE BALANCE WOULD BE THE PROPER TERM.
ANY COMMENTS RELATES TO BYLAWS FROM THE COMMISSION? MR. CHAIR? YES.
YOU KNOW, THE MIC WAS OUT LOUD.
UM, IF THERE IS ANY MORE COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF I COULD.
UM, I, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, THE BYLAWS, HOWEVER, WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS, UM, THAT WE APPROVE.
BUT MS. PERKINS, JUST FOR CLARITY, I'M SORRY.
DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS OR HOW, HOW DO, AS FAR AS, UM, FOR THE RECORD PURPOSES.
SO SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS BEFORE YOU ARE, ARE CONTRADICTORY BECAUSE THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPTIONS AVAILABLE, RIGHT? SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE CLEAREST FOR THE RECORD IF YOU MADE A MOTION TO ADOPT AMENDMENTS TO THE BYLAWS, WHICH INCLUDE, AND THEN GO, GO THROUGH EACH ONE, EACH PROPOSED, EACH PROPOSED CHANGE, EACH AREA OF PROPOSED CHANGE.
SO LOOK, UM, HOWEVER, UH, I CAN MAKE THE CORRECTIONS AS I MAKE THE MOTION, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.
SO LOOK, I'M, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE BYLAWS WITH THE ACCORDING, UM, WITH THE RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS, UH, AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE BEING THE TIME, HAVE THE TIME STARTING AT SIX WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING STARTING AT SIX 30.
I MOVE THAT WE, FROM JUDGING ON THE COMMENTS AND EVERYTHING, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, REDUNDANCY, I MOVE THAT WE STRIKE, UM, UM, LETTER G FROM SECTION NUMBER FOUR UNDER SECRETARY MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO, UM, HAVING MORE THAN FEWER, FEWER THAN THREE AND NO MORE THAN FIVE COMMISSIONER MEMBERS.
AND I MOVE THAT WE AMEND ARTICLE SEVEN.
ORDER OF BUSINESS, INCLUDING WILL GENERALLY INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION.
NUMBER FOUR UNDER ARTICLE SEVEN ORDER OF BUSINESS, THAT WE AMEND THAT ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE AND AGENDAS NOT LESS THAN FIVE DAYS, ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM MS. PERKINS TO ALIGN WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BYLAWS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION? YES, MA'AM.
UH, MR. PIERCE, THE, THE LAST CHANGE, UM, IS UNDER ARTICLE 10, 10 10.
THAT'S THE CHANGE YOU'RE REFERRING TO, CORRECT? ON PAGE EIGHT, I'M SORRY.
GO BACK ANOTHER ONE RIGHT THERE.
UNDER ARTICLE 10, THE DOCKET OF OF CHANGE WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS THE, UH, BYLAWS WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? SECOND.
AND SECOND THAT THE BYLAWS BE AMENDED AS, UH, DELINEATED BY MR. PIERCE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED THE AYES HAVE THE MOTION IS CARRIED.
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ALRIGHT, MOVING ON.UH, MOVING ON TO CONSENT ITEMS, DISPOSITION OF MINUTES FROM JANUARY THE 27TH, 2025.
I THINK THE MINUTES ARE IN YOUR PACKET.
ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY? IF THERE ARE NO CONCERNS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME.
AND SECOND THAT WE ADOPT THE JANUARY MINUTES OF JANUARY 27TH, 2025.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, OLD BUSINESS PC ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 2024 DASH OH FOUR.
MR. WOODEN CHAIR WOODIN, WE DO HAVE WITH US, UM, MR. SCOTT FOSTER, WHO'S SERVING AS THE, UM, APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY, UM, HERE TO ADDRESS THE CHANGES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED FOR THE ORDINANCE UPDATE.
AND I'LL LET HIM GO THROUGH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HE PRESENTED.
THANKS, CE I'LL ATTEMPT TO BE BRIEF.
UH, I WANNA WALK YOU THROUGH THE CHANGES WE MADE PURSUANT TO THE COMMISSION'S COMMENTS, AND I APPRECIATE MS. CHEEK PROVIDING HER SUMMARY.
UH, IN SHORT, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ADOPTED AS MANY OF THE COMMISSION'S SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS AS, AS, AS WE CAN ACCOMMODATE.
UH, I ATTEMPTED TO TAKE THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, WHERE I FELT EVERYBODY WAS, THE AMOUNT OF NODDING THAT WAS GOING ON AS TO SPECIFIC ITEMS. AND I'VE INCORPORATED THOSE IN HERE.
SO THE FIRST CHA, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT THIS IS A RED LINE TO A RED LINE, IT'S KIND OF GETTING UNWIELDY TO READ, BUT THE FIRST, THE FIRST CHANGE IS ON PAGE 17.
UM, THERE WAS ORIGINALLY SOME FLEXIBILITY LANGUAGE IN THERE FOR HORACE TO DETERMINE WHICH OF THESE STUDIES WAS NECESSARY.
AND WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND MADE, MADE IT AFFIRMATIVE SAYING THAT THE APPLICATION SHALL INCLUDE THOSE ITEMS. AND THEN OTHER THINGS THAT MAY BE DETERMINED AS NECESSARY BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR.
UM, STILL ON 17, MS. CHEEK HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE NOTICE PROVISION.
I DID CONFIRM THAT THAT LANGUAGE IS EXACTLY WHAT Y'ALL JUST ADOPTED IN YOUR SOLE ORDINANCE.
SO WE'D LIKE TO STICK WITH THAT.
I THINK MS. CHEEK HAD SUGGESTED, UM, CONFIRMATION OF, OF, OR, OR CONFIRMATION OF DELIVERY.
AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO THAT IS TO, TO SEND IT CERTIFIED.
AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL, BUT WHEN I GET ONE OF THOSE CERTIFIED LETTERS AND I HAVE TO TRUCK IT TO THE, TO THE, UH, POST OFFICE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT MY FAVORITE THING.
SO GIVEN, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT YOU'VE JUST PUT THIS IN YOUR SOLAR ORDINANCE, I, I THINK THAT'S A, I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE TO KEEP IT AS IT IS.
UM, PAGE 18, WE CLARIFIED THAT THIS HAD SOME, THIS HAD SOME REALLY OVERLY COMPLICATED LANGUAGE.
ALL THESE FACILITIES ARE GONNA HAVE FIRE SUPPRESSION AND PROTECTION TECHNOLOGY.
AND WE MADE THIS WITH THIS CHANGE, WE MADE IT CLEAR THAT THAT WILL BE IN PLACE AND, AND, AND ELIMINATED SOME OF THAT ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE.
UM, ALSO ON 18 MS. CHEEK'S SUGGESTION AS TO, UH, UH, OF PLACEMENT OF THESE PLACARDS, UH, MODIFIED THAT TO BE MORE SPECIFIC ENTRY TO THE FACILITY AND THE INDIVIDUAL CONTAINERS.
Y'ALL TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT.
AND THE CONSENSUS I FELT THE COMMISSION REACHED WAS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS ALLOWS YOU TO ADOPT SPECIFIC SETBACKS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
AND I WENT AHEAD AND PUT THAT IN HERE JUST TO MAKE THAT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR.
THAT IF, IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL SETBACKS, YOU ALL CAN DO THAT VIA CONDITION.
SO IT'S NOT ONE SIZE FIT ALL FITS ALL FOR THE ORDINANCE.
THAT THAT CHANGE ALSO APPLIES TO THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
AND THEN I BELIEVE THIS, THIS, AND MR. COGGINS, YOU TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, 'CAUSE UH, WE WERE PLAYING TELEPHONE THE LAST TIME, BUT THE CHANGE IN THE MIDDLE OF PAGE 19 AS TO THE 20 FOOT BUFFER THAT I WAS, I WAS TRYING TO GET AT WHAT YOU WERE, YOU WERE SUGGESTING ABOUT THE NON-FLAMMABLE AREA.
YEAH, JUST ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE.
SO IF THERE'S A FIRE, THEY CAN FIGHT IT UP.
THEY GOT 25 FEET BEFORE THEY HAVE TO ATTACK IT, I GUESS.
SO THIS, THE WAY THIS READS NOW IS MINIMUM OF 20 FOOT BUFFER SHALL BE A SERVICE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS. OUTERMOST STRUCTURES, SUCH BUS BUFFER SHALL BE CLEARED OF COMBUSTIBLE VEGETATION AND OR THE COMBUSTIBLE GROWTH.
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SUGGESTING IS IT'S AT THE OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE.BUT IF IT'S, IF IT'S THE CONSENSUS THAT THE BOARD WILL GO AHEAD AND, AND MAKE THAT CHANGE, THAT THE ENERGY SOURCE SYSTEMS FENCE LINE FOR PLACING OUTERMOST STRUCTURES ALL RIGHT.
GIVES 'EM A LITTLE BIT OF, THEY'RE FIGHTING A FIRE FOR MAYBE SPRAYING WATER.
SO THEY'RE 25 FEET AWAY FROM THE TRUCKING.
YOU, IT'S NOT BURNING THEIR FEET.
SO JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SETTING A TRAP FOR OURSELVES HERE.
SO THAT NEXT SENTENCE SAYS THE BUFFER MUST ALSO, THE, THE BUFFER BUFFER MUST ALSO BE COVERED IN GRAVEL, CONCRETE OR SOME OTHER NON RUSTS MATERIALS.
SO LIKE A GRAVEL RIM ROAD IS THAT MAY BE, THAT MAY BE MORE THAN YOU NEED THERE.
WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT JUST A LIKE TIGHTLY MODE VEGETATION WITH ACCESS? I WAS THINKING THE GRAVEL WOULD BE OKAY.
THEY COULD WEED KILL AROUND IT.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE VEGETATION, EVEN IN AUGUST, IT'S GONNA GET DRY AND BRITTLE.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE FENCE, BOOM, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY OUT.
ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S LEAVE THAT AS IT IS.
AND, UH, CHANGING, CHANGING OUTERMOST STRUCTURE FENCE LINE.
IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU? OUR DEFENSE LOSS? CAN YOU, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
I HAVE A HEARING IMPAIRMENT, ONE REASON I LIKE THINGS WRITTEN DOWN, BUT SORRY.
UM, SO YOU ARE GOING TO PUT NON-FLAMMABLE GRAVEL OR SOMETHING DOWN AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE.
THAT IS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT MR. COGGINS HAS ASKED FOR.
AND I I I HOPE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDER THANK YOU.
SO THEN ANY VEGETATION PLANTED TO SCREEN WOULD BE BEYOND THAT, THAT THE OUTSIDE OF THAT.
BECAUSE YOU THINK, YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
WE GOT A 200 FOOT, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S DOUBLE CHECK OUR WORK HERE.
SO YOU'D BE WORKING WITHIN THAT SETBACK FROM THE FENCE.
UM, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT NOISE THE LAST TIME AND I SAID WE COULD GO TO 65 DBA, WHICH I KNOW WE CAN FROM PROPERTY LINE TO THE ADJOINING PARCEL.
BUT THE, THE, THE REALLY GOOD FOR YOU ALL HERE IS THAT 55 DBA AT THE OUTER WALL OF ANY OCCUPIED STRUCTURE ON AN ADJACENT PARCEL IN THE AR DISTRICT IN EXISTENCE AT THE TIME OF THE, THE PROJECT THAT RECEIVED ITS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PERMIT.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOUND IS ONLY OFFENSIVE TO SOMEBODY WHO CAN HEAR IT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE WENT WITH THAT 55 DBA AT THE OUTER, OUTER MOST WALL OF A STRUCTURE ON AN ADJACENT PARCEL.
SO THAT'S TRYING TO TAILOR IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO BEING SENSITIVE TO ADJACENT USES.
SO ARE YOU TECHNICALLY NOT ABLE TO GO DOWN LOWER THAN THAT? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
UH, THIS, THESE ARE NUMBERS WE, WE ARE CONFIDENT WE CAN COMPLY WITH.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT TECHNICALLY YOU HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH AND YOU KNOW, YOU CANNOT GO LESS.
SO YOU HAVE INFORMATION THAT SUPPORTS THAT.
UH, I, I DON'T, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S EACH OF THESE DIFFERENT BATTERY MANUFACTURERS MAKES DIFFERENT LEVELS OF NOISE.
SO IT'S WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TAKEN THE, THE LOUDER END OF THE SPECTRUM AND SAID, OKAY, WE THINK WE CAN COMPLY WITH THAT AT 200 FEET.
'CAUSE THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR SETBACK.
SO BASED ON THAT MODELING, AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A SOUND ENGINEER, BUT THESE ARE NUMBERS WE'RE CON WE'RE CONFIDENT WE CAN COMPLY WITH.
AND GIVEN THAT 55 DBA AT THE, THE OUTER WALL OF AN OCCUPIED STRUCTURE, YOU'VE REALLY ACCOUNTED FOR ADJACENT RESIDENCES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S AT A REASONABLE LIMIT.
'CAUSE 55 VBA USING THAT CHART WE SHARED THE LAST TIME, THAT'S A PRETTY NORMAL AMBIENT BACKGROUND NOISE LEAVES RUSTLING, THAT SORT OF THING.
SO, AND IT, IT CAN BE CORRECT.
I MEAN IF, IF IT GETS OUT, IF YOU GET ON SITE, YOU BUILD IT AND FOR SOME REASON, SO I MEAN, IT CAN BE EASILY CORRECTED WITH SOME SOUND BARRIERS.
AND, AND, AND THE, THE CHANGE IN THE NEXT SECTION IS ONCE THAT, ONCE THAT MANUFACTURER SPECIFICATION, ONCE THE, ONCE THE BATTERIES ARE SELECTED AND WE KNOW THE NOISE SPECS ON THE INDIVIDUAL BATTERIES AS PART OF FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT TO THE COUNTY PROOF THAT WE CAN COMPLY WITH THESE STANDARDS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE COUNTY'S CATCH BASED ON THE SELECTED EQUIPMENT TO GET YOU.
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ISN'T A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING FOR THE FORWARD TO PERMISSION TO THINK ABOUT.I KIND OF THOUGHT ABOUT THIS KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE ENCOURAGE STUDENTS, WE ASK THEM TO ASPIRE TO A A PLUS AND IT FEELS LIKE THIS IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ASPIRE TO A D MINUS ON THIS SOUND THAT YOU'RE LISTING HERE.
SO I JUST WOULD LIKE OUR COMMISSIONERS TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
WHAT WE WANT FOR OUR COUNTY IS THE BEST POSSIBLE PARTNERS WE CAN HAVE.
AND USING THE CUP, WHICH HAS BEEN POINTED OUT, UM, TO ME NUMEROUS TIMES, IF EACH, AS WE LOOK AT EACH PERSON THAT COMES IN, EACH VENDOR THAT COMES IN, IF WE FIND THAT WE WANT THEM TO ALLOW THEM TO GO HIGHER, THEN THAT'S OKAY.
BUT AS AN ORDINANCE, I THINK WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT PUTTING OUT THERE WHAT WE REALLY WANT THEM TO ACHIEVE AS A GOOD PARTNER DOING BUSINESS IN OUR COUNTY.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT THIS ORDINANCE TO US AS A, AS A NEW, UH, COMPANY BRINGING THIS.
BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THIS LEVEL AND EITHER DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON IT OR TALK ABOUT, UH, MR. COGAN JUST BROUGHT IT UP ABOUT WAYS THAT YOU COULD BRING IT DOWN FURTHER.
AND THAT WAS ONE REASON I ASKED YOU THE QUESTION.
DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU CANNOT GO LOWER, BUT YOU COULD GO LOWER WITH SOME DAMPENING TECHNOLOGIES OR BUILDING THINGS AROUND IT, WHATEVER.
UM, YEAH, AND WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT THE EARLIER MEETING.
YOU, YOU CAN GO LOWER WITH THE SOUND WALL, BUT YOU END UP AS, I USED THE EXAMPLE OF ONE ON DID ON THE OCEAN SHORE.
IT'S LIKE WE BUILT A 16 FOOT SOUND WALL 'CAUSE IT WAS A SMALL PARCEL AND IT ENDED UP, IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE A BIG OLD BRICK SITTING DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD.
WHEREAS THESE STRUCTURES BY THEMSELVES ARE ABOUT 10 FEET TALL.
WELL, MAYBE YOU PUT SOME PUBLIC ART ON IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT LOOKS NICER.
SO I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE ESTABLISHING THE BASIS FOR ALL OF THEM, NOT JUST THIS GREAT COMPANY THAT'S COMING BEFORE US.
WELL, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT, THIS, SO THE ORDINANCE SETS OUT THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.
SO JUST LIKE THE SETBACKS, IF, IF, IF A PROJECT COMES TO TOWN AND IT'S NEAR A NEIGHBORHOOD OR NEAR SOME SENSES OF RECEPTORS, YOU CAN ALWAYS REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STANDARDS, ADDITIONAL, MORE STRINGENT STANDARDS BY CONDITIONAL USE FOR VIC CONDITION.
SO TO MR. COGGINS POINT AND INSTALL THOSE SOUND THERAPIES YEAH.
IF YOU HAVE A PROJECT THAT'S AROUND ADJACENT, UM RIGHT.
I WISH I, MY NEIGHBOR WITH HIS HUNTING DOGS EVERY SUNDAY AFTERNOON, I'M TRYING TO TAKE A NAP IN MY HAMMOCK.
I I WISH I COULD GET HIS DD THEY LOUDER THAN 55.
WELL, I GOT, I GOT, I HAVE STAFF MAKING A COPY.
I FORGOT YOU WEREN'T HERE LAST MEETING, BUT HE CAN MAKE ANOTHER COPY FOR YOU.
HE GAVE, THEY GAVE US A KIND OF A DECIBEL CHART AND UM, HERE HE'S BRINGING IT BACK NOW.
SO YOU'LL, YOU CAN AT LEAST HAVE A VISUAL OF WHERE WE ARE.
YEAH, I I THINK I'M, I READ OR I WAS GOOGLE A DISHWASHER THAT'S LIKE NORMAL DISHWASHER AND A HOUSE IS LIKE 55 DECIBELS, YOU KNOW, IN A NORMAL PERSON'S HOUSE.
I BUT AGAIN, THE ORDINANCE OF THE POINT HAVE ONE PAGE OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
FOR ANYTHING IN GENERAL CASE IS THE MAXIMUM THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED.
SO PAGE 20 MS. CHEEK'S SUGGESTION WAS SOME MODIFICATIONS REGARDING THE LIGHTING.
SO WE WENT AHEAD AND MADE IT THAT DARK SKY COMPLIANT.
THAT'S EVERYTHING HAS TO BE CERTAIN LUMENS FACING DOWN.
AND IN THIS CASE, MORE THAN LIKELY MOTION SENSOR ACTIVATED.
THE LAST CHANGE IS ONE THAT I'M NOT SURE WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER OTHER DAY, BUT YOU'RE ALL'S SOLAR ORDINANCE DOES NOT ALLOW CURRENT NEW, SO ORDINANCE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR AN OFFSET FOR, FOR THE, UH, SALVAGE VALUE.
UM, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT BEING PUT IN HERE BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THESE THINGS BECOME REALLY, BECOME PART OF THE ELECTRIC GRID JUST LIKE A SUBSTATION.
UM, AND THE CARRYING COST OF THOSE BONDS IS NOT NOTHING.
SO, AND, AND THE SALVAGE VALUE OF THESE PROJECTS IS EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH.
SO WE, WE WANTED TO ASK FOR SPECIAL DISPENSATION RELATIVE TO SOLAR, GIVEN THE USE IS DIFFERENT TO BE TREATED LIKE, UH, LIKE YOUR PREVIOUS SOLAR ORDINANCE AND ALLOW FOR
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THE INCLUSION OF SALVAGE VALUE IN ON PAGE 22 AND 23.HOW LONG DID THESE, UM, BATTERY LAST? I GUESS, YOU KNOW, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, I WASN'T HERE AT THE LAST MEETING OR SO, BUT THEY UH, THEY LOOK LIKE A C VAN OR, OR SITTING THERE.
SO HOW LONG, HOW LONG DO YOU KNOW THE SOLAR PROJECTS ARE 30 YEARS? 40 YEARS.
S SO DIFFERENT THAN A DIFFERENT THAN A SOLAR PROJECT.
EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUAL BATTERY UNITS, WHICH IS MORE OR LESS LOOKS LIKE, LIKE A, LIKE A COMPUTER SERVER ABOUT THAT BIG, UH, THEY'RE ALL MONITOR, THEY'RE ALL CLOSELY MONITORED.
AND WHEN ONE STARTS DEGRADING AND FUNCTION, THEY COME IN, PULL IT OUT, PUT IN A NEW ONE, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE ROLLING ON, ON THE NEW SYSTEM.
SO AS INDIVIDUAL UNITS AGE OUT, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY BEING RETROFITTED.
SO IN THEORY THEY COULD EXIST FOR, FOR, FOR PERPETUITY.
'CAUSE YOU'RE CONSTANTLY REFITTING.
SO IN ESSENCE YOU WON'T BE REMOVING THE BUILDING, YOU'RE REMOVING THE PARTS INSIDE INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS.
IT'S LIKE OPENING UP A, LIKE A BIG GYM LOCKER TAKING COMPONENTS.
SO DO THEY REFURBISH THE ONES THEY TAKE OUT? YEAH, THEY, BECAUSE IT'S ALL SUPER HIGHLY VALUE TO RECYCLE.
SO JUST LIKE YOUR, YOUR BATTERIES IN YOUR PHONE GET RECYCLED.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I'M HERE.
I'VE ALWAYS APPRECIATED YOUR FOURTH RIGHTNESS.
I MEAN YOU'RE, I I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, SO SOMEBODY ASKED ME YESTERDAY, I TOLD 'EM WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND THEY SAID, WELL WHERE, WHY ARE YOU MAKING IT? WHAT'S THE, WHO'S GONNA MAKE MONEY? I SAID, WELL, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THEY BUY IT ON LOW LOW PEAK AND THEN THEY SELL IT ON HIGH PEAK.
SO EVERY DAY IT'S BOUGHT AND SOLD BASICALLY THE ELECTRICITY.
AND I, I PROMISE I WON'T BEAT THIS DEAD.
DID THEY? ARE WE STILL, I THINK YOU TOLD ME LAST TIME TOO THAT WHAT DOES THE COUNTY GET? HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE GET REVENUE FROM WHAT'S BEING PRODUCED THERE? WE DON'T GET IT BY BUYING AND SELLING.
WE JUST GET IT BY THE MACHINERY.
AND I THINK YOU SAID 80% WE DON'T GET BECAUSE IT'S PROTECTED.
SO, SO FEDERALLY, SO FOR A PROJECT 150 MEGAWATTS AND LESS, YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR MACHINERY TOOLS TAXED JUST, AND IT'S TAXED JUST LIKE A SOLAR PROJECT, RIGHT? UH, YOU USE THE LOCAL REAL ESTATE TAX RATE, IT'S SUBJECT TO CERTAIN TAX EXEMPTIONS UNDER 58, 1 36 60.
UH, AND FOR A PROJECT, A NEW PROJECT, ONE THAT'S NOT OPERATING ON AN OLD INTERCONNECTION, IT, YOU'RE GONNA GET 20% OF THE TOTAL VALUE FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.
30%, AND THEN 40% FOR THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.
SO IT FUNCTIONALLY IS TAXED JUST LIKE A SOLAR FACILITY.
THE DIFFERENCE IS THESE THINGS ARE EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH VALUE AND THEY'RE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT SET ON LIKE 30 ACRES.
SO YOU COULD GET A MAYBE SIX TO 800 ACRE SOLAR FACILITY VALUE OUT OF 30, 30 ACRES.
AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO ELIGIBLE FOR A SIGHTING AGREEMENT.
SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS OF ABOVE AND BEYOND THE STATUTORY TAX OBLIGATION.
DO, DO WE JUST GET A CATCH 22? 'CAUSE YOU SAID THEY'RE CONTINUALLY SO, SO THAT'S, YOU WOULDN'T GET DEPRECIATION AS MUCH.
YOU'RE GONNA BE, EVERY TIME YOU REPLACE A COMPONENT PART, YOU'VE STARTED A NEW DEPRECIATION SCHEDULE.
SO I'D HATE TO BE THE ACCOUNTANT THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH THIS STUFF
BECAUSE IF, IF YOU CHANGE UP, IF YOU CHASE FIVE UNITS OUT OF 500 EVERY YEAR, YOU GOT DIFFERENT DEPRECIATION SCHEDULES RUNNING ON EACH ONE.
THAT'LL KEEP MR. JUDKINS IN THE JOB.
THESE, THESE PROJECTS WOULD HAVE TO BE, THEY SUBJECT TO SUBSTANTIAL COURT DETERMINATION.
THEY'RE A PUBLIC, PUBLIC UTILITY FACILITY, JUST LIKE A SOLAR FACILITY.
SO, MR. WADE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ON THE PHONE TODAY.
SO THE GUIDANCE FOR LOCATION OF THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SOLAR AMENDMENT, THE, OR THE ENERGY AMENDMENT.
NOW AS, AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, THIS IS SUBJECT TO THE CI AGREEMENT.
SO MORE THAN LIKELY AT THIS POINT, THE BOARD HAS CHOSEN TO GO CI AGREEMENT INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH SUBSTANTIAL COURT DETERMINATION.
BUT AS YOU ALL HAVE KNOWN ME IN YOUR, IN YOUR LAST, UM, DIFFERENT POLICY WAS THAT YOU ALL GET A CHANCE TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THE CITING AGREEMENT, UM, TO GIVE TO THE, TO GIVE TO THE BOARD.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE WOULD GO DOWN, UM, FEATURE PROJECTS THAT DO ALLOW FORESIGHTING AGREEMENT.
BUT THE, THE SOLAR, THE, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE
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ENERGY AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S KIND OF GUIDES US ON.THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD GUIDE THE ON LOCATION AND WE WOULD LOOK FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO FOLLOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ONE THING, MR. FAIRMAN, I I, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO KNOCK WIND, WIND AT ANYBODY'S SAILS, BUT THESE BATTERIES THAT I'VE BEEN PART OF THEIR ABILITY TO PAY ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS IS NOT THE SAME AS A SOLAR FACILITY.
IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT ECONOMIC MODEL, LARGELY BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT CREATING ENERGY, YOU'RE BUYING IT AND SELLING IT.
UH, SO THERE'S STILL SOME VOLUNTARY PAYMENT MONEY TO BE HAD, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ON THE, ON THE SCALE OF A, OF A SOLAR PROJECT.
THEY ALSO, THEY KIND OF ASK LESS OF THE COUNTY TOO, 'CAUSE THEY'RE ON SUCH SMALL FOOTPRINTS.
I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FROM MR. MR. WADE, UM, ABOUT THE, UM, FIELD TRIP TO GO SEE, UM, A FACILITY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYONE'S, WELL, I, THERE, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF YOU THAT, THAT WEREN'T HERE LAST TIME, BUT GOT A GOOD FEELING FROM, UM, FROM PLENTY COMMISSIONS THAT WERE HERE.
EVEN EVEN ONES THAT WEREN'T THAT, HEY, THIS LOOKS LIKE IS, IT WOULD BE A GOOD FIELD TRIP FOR PLENTY COMMISSION AND BOARD MEMBERS.
I THINK THAT WE'RE STILL PROBABLY GET SOME, SOME INFORMATION WORK AND WORK SOME DETAILS ABOUT WHERE, WHERE TO VISIT.
UM, I'VE TALKED AGAIN WITH, UM, OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL, THERE'S A SITE IN IN SUSSEX THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS HIS OWN NUANCE THING.
WE HAVE TO CHECK WITH MS. PERKINS ON WHAT IT'S LIKE TO VISIT A SITE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
THERE'S PROBABLY SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER FOR ACTIVE ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE THAT WE NEED TO NEED TO PAUSE AND, AND THINK ABOUT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY JUMP INTO IT.
BUT THOSE ARE SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER.
UM, IT MAY, IT MAY BE SOMETHING YOU DO ON A SMALLER SCALE OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE VISIT TWO BY TWO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS OPPOSED TO A WHOLE, A WHOLE, UH, UH, A BIG FIELD TRIP.
SO THERE'S SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER, I THINK UNDER A SITE THAT'S COMPLETE, I THINK IS IN, IN ONE STATE, LIKE THAT'S COMPLETE FOR DOMINION AND CHESTERFIELD ANOTHER SITE THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT'S IN SUSSEX.
SO THERE'S SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER, I THINK, UH, FROM, FROM BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE'VE SEEN.
I THINK THE LAST BOARD MEMBER, THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WE HAD THREE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT WERE HERE AND THEY LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE, THEY WERE EXCITED TO, TO GO ON A FIELD TRIP AS WELL.
SO I THINK WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE TEAM OF PLENTY COMMISSIONERS AND, AND BOARD MEMBERS THAT WILL LOVE TO GO SEE A SITE BEFORE WE, BEFORE.
UH, THERE'S A, A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO THAT MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU EXPLORE EVERY TYPE OF EVERY AND CONSIDER EVERY TYPE OF, UM, SITUATION FOR A SITE IN SURREY.
UM, AND BY SEEING ANOTHER SITE.
AND I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT MR. BREMAN BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING OF WISHING WE HAD SEEN SOME OTHER SITES BEFORE WE APPROVED SOLAR AND AN RNG FACILITY.
LET'S, LET'S LEARN FROM THE PAST AND, UH, AND, AND, AND, AND DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE ALL COULD AGREE WITH TO, TO DO SO.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
SO ARE, ARE WE GONNA TABLE THIS TONIGHT UNTIL WE CAN GO? I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE, THE BEST THING FOR US TO DO IS WE WOULD, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD ADD ANY, ANY VALUE ADDED TO TO, TO PAUSE A PROJECT BECAUSE EVERY PROJECT IS PROJECT IS SITE SPECIFIC.
I BELIEVE TONIGHT MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UM, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR THE ORDINANCE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME PREPARE A FIELD TRIP BEFORE WE ACTUALLY CONSIDER A PROJECT WITH THE COUNTY.
THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
THAT'S, I MEAN, YOU'VE TOLD US THAT THIS GENTLEMAN'S GONNA BRING A PROJECT TO US PRETTY SOON, RIGHT? THAT, THAT, THAT, YES.
SO WE'RE GONNA SOMEHOW GET, TRY TO SLIP THAT IN MAYBE MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, MA'AM.
UM, IF I MAY, AND I, I THINK I MAY HAVE INCLUDED THIS IN AN EMAIL, BUT THE, THE COMPLICATION WITH SCHEDULING A SITE VISIT IS THAT THE, THE EXISTING SITES THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE NOT OWNED BY THIS APPLICANT.
SO IT'S NOT, WE HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION.
AND THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THESE SITES THAT ARE OWNED BY, YOU KNOW, THIRD PARTIES, UM, ALLOW US ON THE SITE.
NOW, AS MR. WADE SAID, THERE'S A SITE IN CHESTERFIELD THAT'S OWNED BY DOMINION.
WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH DOMINION.
WE'RE HOPING WE CAN GET THAT WORKED OUT.
UM, BUT WITH ALL OF THE INCLEMENT WEATHER WE'VE HAD, IT HAS ALSO THROWN A MONKEY WRENCH INTO, INTO THE PLANS.
UM, BUT, BUT AGAIN, THE OBJECTIVE WOULD BE, AND I AGREE WITH MR. WADE'S RECOMMENDATION THAT, UM, THE SITE VISIT IS MOST BENEFICIAL IN OUR OPINION.
THE SITE VISIT IS MOST BE BENEFICIAL IN EVALUATING A PARTICULAR PROJECT VERSUS THE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU
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TONIGHT.AND THE SITE VISITS, UM, WILL HOPEFULLY PROVIDE SOME VALUABLE PERSPECTIVE IN DEVELOPING, UM, THE CONDITIONS FOR THE CUP, UM, AND, AND HELP, HELP YOU ALL IN, IN MAKING THAT, THOSE DECISIONS.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE OUR RECOMMENDATION IS COMING FROM.
WE, WE DON'T FEEL IT NEEDS TO BE, UM, THE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE HELD UP PENDING THE SITE VISIT.
IN A PERFECT WORLD, SURE, IT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T SEE THAT AS A NECESSITY FOR THE ORDINANCE.
AND UNTIL THE ORDINANCE IS, UH, ADOPTED, IF IT'S ULTIMATELY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, NO APPLICATION CAN BE RECEIVED.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHICKEN AND AN EGG PROBLEM THAT WE ARE RUNNING INTO.
SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE OUR RECOMMENDATION IS ORIGINATING FROM.
I HOPE, I HOPE THAT HELPS AND DOESN'T CONFUSE MORE.
I MEAN, IT'S EASY FOR US TO SAY, WELL, WE'D LIKE TO GO HAVE A SITE VISIT, BUT FROM A CONTRACTOR'S POINT OF VIEW, WE GOTTA CLEAN THE JOB SITE.
WE GOTTA STAND DOWN BECAUSE WE CAN'T BE CUTTING, GRINDING, DRILLING LADDERS, NO WORK OVERHEAD.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S A BIG, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY TO, THAT'S THE FIELD TRIP.
BUT LIKE YOU SAID, IF THEY GOT NO SKIN IN, I MEAN SUSSEX IS, THEY'RE ROLLING ALONG, THAT'S GOING OUT THERE, THAT WOULD BE A FAVOR TO THE SUSSEX BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF LET US GO.
BUT SOMEBODY THAT'S GOT ONE, I THINK THEY WOULD MAKE A WAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SEE, I MEAN THE, THE ONE AT CHESTER, THE FIELD, ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T NEED TO GO INSIDE.
I NEED TO GO TO THE FENCE AND LISTEN TO WHAT I HEAR.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO THAT FROM THE STREET MAYBE.
BUT I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY GOTTA LET US GO IN THE FACILITY AND, AND TOUR IT AND WELL, YEAH, MAYBE YOU WANT TO LOOK IN ONE, BUT IF ONE'S OPERATING, THEY PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO OPEN THE DOORS ON IT.
SO, UH, I MEAN OUR, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, OUR MAIN CONCERN IS THE NOISE AND THE BUFFER THAT GOT AROUND IT.
THE, THE OTHER QUESTION I WAS GOING TO HAVE WHEN HE, UM, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE, THE VALUE OF THESE THINGS, UM, AND IT'S ALL BASED ON YOUR MACHINERY TOOL THING, BUT, UM, IT WAS KIND OF LIKE SOLAR PANEL.
DIDN'T WE RAISE THE RATE OF WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, SET AT, YOU KNOW, THE VALUE OF THEM AND THE, WELL, NOT THE REASON WHY THE COUNTY WENT TO THE M1 TO HAVE 'EM REDONE.
AND, UM, AND IT'S NOT, I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA USE THIS RIGHT NOW.
SO THESE THINGS GOING TO BE APPRAISED FOR MORE THAN 71 CENT A HUNDRED.
I THINK IT'S, IT IS, IT IS BECAUSE OF THE VALUE OF IT.
I THINK IT'S BE LIKE MY HIGHEST REGISTER'S ONE THING, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT AT 71, BUT WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE SAYING IT'S WORTH, YOU KNOW, 10 TIMES WHAT IT, YOU KNOW, IT IS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT IS, I THINK WHAT, WHAT MR. FOSTER SAID WAS BASICALLY HOWEVER WE VALUE THAT IT WOULD BE THE SAME TYPE, SAME TYPE OF WAY YOU WOULD VALUE FOR SOLAR.
HOW YOU, HOW YOU WOULD GET TO IS REAL ESTATE.
THEY CALL IT THE M AND T, BUT WHATEVER THAT RATE WOULD BE, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS THERE, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT WOULD BE VALUED.
UM, AS FAR AS BEING DONE AT AN M1 RATE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE ZONING PART OF THAT IS TAKEN REALLY UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR THE ZONING PART OF IT IS VALUED AS FAR AS HAVING, UM, FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF.
UM, ONE OF THE, THE, I THINK WE HAD MR. JENKINS HERE, WAS IT 2, 2, 2 MONTHS AGO.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE SHARED, SHARED WITH US WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY DID THE, THE VALUE FOR, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, STRATA OUT IN ROUTE 10, THEY, IT DIDN'T MATTER FOR THEM IF IT WAS AN M1 OR AR, IT WAS THE ACTUAL PANELS THAT WERE THERE IN WHICH THEY, THEY PROVIDED THE VALUE FOR.
SO IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY MATTER THAT PART, BUT IT, I THINK AS FAR AS THE TAX RATE FOR THAT ONE, I, I THINK WHATEVER THAT RATE'S GONNA BE, THAT, THAT THE BOARD, THE BOARD SUPERVISORS ADOPTS THAT, ADOPTS THAT RATE.
BUT SOMEBODY'S GOT TO SET THE PRICE OF WHAT THE POUNDS ARE.
AND MY VALUE SETTING THEM MIGHT BE HIGHER, MIGHT BE WAY HIGHER THAN WHAT YOURS IS.
I THINK THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S, SOMEBODY'S SOMEBODY, SO IT'S LIKE, SO POUNDS THE STATE DICTATED WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO PAY US $1,400 A MEGAWATT.
DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW IF IT'S A SEC THAT SETS THE RATE FOR, OR A GOOD ANSWER TO THAT ONE? SO THE GOOD QUESTIONS, SO BATTERY OR SOLAR, UM, THE INITIAL CALCULATION OF MACHINERY AND TOOLS IS BASED ON THE ACTUAL SALE VALUE OF THE EQUIPMENT.
SO IF IT COSTS A MILLION DOLLARS TO
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BUILD THIS PROJECT, THAT'S WHAT YOUR MACHINERY TOOLS TAX IS BASED ON.SO IT'S, IN YOUR CASE, IT'D BE 71 CENTS PER HUNDRED ON A MILLION DOLLARS OF ASSESSED VALUE THAT GOES DOWN OVER TIME PURSUANT TO THE DEPRECIATION SCHEDULES THAT THE STATE CORPORATION, STATE CORPORATION COMMISSION PUTS OUT.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, DOLLAR VALUE ON DAY ONE IS GONNA GO OVER, GO DOWN OVER TIME PURSUANT TO THOSE SCHEDULES.
THE $1,400 PER MEGAWATT IS, IS WHAT THEY CALL REVENUE SHARE, WHICH ENERGY STORAGE IS ELIGIBLE FOR.
BUT IN ORDER TO ASSESS THAT, THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO ADOPT A REVENUE SHARE ORDINANCE, AND THAT GOES UP 10% EVERY FIVE YEARS, STARTING IN 2026.
SO THAT REVENUE SHARE CURVE DOES THIS, M AND T STARTS HERE AND GOES DOWN, AND THEN USUALLY OUT THERE, DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT, BETWEEN YEAR 20 AND 30, THOSE TWO REVENUE CURVES CROSS AND ONE BECOMES BETTER THAN THE OTHER.
MORE OFTEN BECAUSE THE REVENUE SHARE FORMULA THAT GOES UP, REVENUE SHARE'S BETTER ON THE BACK END OF PROJECTS THAN MACHINERY TOOLS.
BUT YOU ALL, YOU ALL KNOW ALL ABOUT THIS MACHINERY TOOLS BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THE NUKE PLANT.
AND YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE MADE THE, YOU'VE MADE THE INFORMED DECISION THAT M AND T IS A BETTER REGIME FOR THESE PROJECTS FOR, FOR, FOR THE COUNTY.
NOW IF, AND NOT TO OVERCOMPLICATE THINGS, BUT YOU COULD ADOPT A REV, YOU COULD ADOPT A REVENUE SHARE ORDINANCE ONLY APPLICABLE TO STORAGE.
UH, YOU'RE, YOU CAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST, JUST SOLAR AND STORAGE.
YOU COULD JUST ADOPT IT JUST FOR STORAGE IF YOU WANTED TO.
SO, BUT OVERALL, THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE EXTREMELY, LIKE I SAY, EXTREMELY HIGH VALUE ON SMALL ACREAGE.
IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD M AND T PROPOSITION FOR THE, FOR THE JURISDICTION.
AND TO ALSO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE, IN THE POINT THAT MR. JUDKINS MADE THE LAST TIME, SO THE ORIGINAL SPRING GROVE APPROVALS WERE DONE BEFORE YOU ALL REQUIRED REZONING TO M1.
THOSE PRO THAT ON THE, FOR REAL ESTATE TAX PURPOSES, THOSE PROJECTS ARE TAXED JUST LIKE THE ONES YOU ZONED TO M THE REQUIRED REZONING TO M1.
UM, THE REASON BEING, THE ASSESSORS DO A USE VALUE CALCULATION ON THE UNDERLYING REAL ESTATE, AND IN THAT CASE IT'S IN SOLAR USE.
AND THEY'VE SAID, OKAY, IT'S WORTH WHATEVER, IT'S 13 TO $15,000 AN ACRE.
SO IF A, IF A BATTERY PROJECT'S BUILT HERE, THEY'LL DO A USE VALUE CALCULATION SAYING, OKAY, WELL THEY'RE LEASING IT FROM THIS LANDOWNER AT X RATE, UH, IT'S WORTH X PER ACRE, AND THEY PAY REAL ESTATE TAXES BASED ON THAT ASSESSMENT.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A USE VALUE CALCULATION.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION ON MR. FOSTER OR MR. WAIT, MR. MR. WOODEN, I HAD ONE QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION.
UM, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD ABOUT WHAT WAS PROPOSED TO THE COMMISSION, UM, FOR ON PAGE NUMBER 23 UNDER, UM, DECOMMISSIONING THE, THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR THE, FROM THE APPLICANT CELL, UM, SAYS THE ESTIMATED SALVAGE VALUE, UH, COMPONENT SHALL BE USED TO OFFSET THE DECOMMISSIONING COSTS.
MY, MY, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE MAY, MAY INSTEAD OF SHELL JUST, THAT WOULD, THAT'S MY ONLY SUGGESTION.
MISS, MISS, SHE, UM, UH, MISS, UM, MS. PERKINS, IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL INSTEAD USING, UH, MAY INSTEAD OF SHELL THERE, I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU, MR. WADE WOULD BE, HOW, HOW IS THAT DETERMINATION GOING TO BE MADE? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE BE THERE, THERE WE'RE FORCED WE WOULD BE FOR USING SHELL WILL BE FORCING THE COUNTY TO, TO ACCEPT SALVAGE VALUE.
BUT CHANGING IT TO MAY LEAVES THE QUESTION MARK.
SO WHEN IS, WHEN WOULD THAT DETERMINATION BE MADE? AND THE USE OF THE TERM MAY ALSO CAUSES ME CONCERN BECAUSE IT, UM, IT COULD, UM, PROVIDE AN AVENUE FOR DISPARITY BETWEEN TREATMENT OF ONE PROJECT VERSUS ANOTHER PROJECT.
SO I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A BETTER, BEFORE I COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON OKAY, ON, ON CHANGING THAT LANGUAGE TO MAY, I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF, OKAY, WHAT VEHICLE WOULD, WOULD WE USE TO DO THAT? TO SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT.
DO WE WANT TO, DO WE NOT? AND WHAT CRITERIA WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THAT FOR, IN, IN HELPING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE THAT DECISION? OKAY.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I THINK THE MAY WOULD BE OKAY BECAUSE THEY START OUT RIGHT NOW, I, I'M NOT OPPOSED
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TO IT USING THE BELIEVE IT OR NOT THE SALVAGE, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S LITHIUM.I KNOW THE PRECIOUS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MINERALS AND STUFF TO MAKE THE BATTERIES AND EVERYTHING.
THEY'RE A LOT WORTH, A LOT MORE THAN SOLAR PANELS.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M KIND OF, YOU KNOW, I'M OKAY WITH IT THERE.
BUT AS IT GOES, AND MAYBE TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, WE MAY NEED TO REQUIRE 'EM TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY'RE USING SOMETHING, SOME OTHER, SOME OTHER MEANS TO MAKE BATTERIES THAT DON'T HAVE THESE PRECIOUS METALS THAT ARE, HAVE A REAL HIGH RESALE VALUE.
UM, IS THAT LEGITIMATE? I MEAN, I, I MEAN, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I, I THINK IF WE WERE GOING TO CHANGE IT TO MAY, WE NEED A LITTLE MORE IN THERE, SO MAY BE USED TO OFFSET THE DECOMMISSIONING COSTS AND, AND THAT THAT DETERMINATION WILL BE MADE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR, OR SOMETHING.
AND I JUST HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT THAT ALTERNATIVE.
SO I DON'T HAVE LANGUAGE TO PROPOSE TO YOU ALL.
UM, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THAT MORE WOULD BE, MORE, WOULD BE NEEDED.
NOW, THAT'S CER CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO HOLD UP A DECISION TONIGHT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MAY INSTEAD OF A SHALL, THEN WE CAN, WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF WORK BEFORE THIS COMES, BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO KIND OF SATISFY THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE.
WELL, CAN'T THAT BE ADDRESSED IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT LATER? WHETHER IT'S MAY OR SHALL OR IT, IT, IT MAY, IT MAY BE ABLE TO.
AND, AND I JUST, I I DON'T WANNA SAY DEFINITIVELY ON THE RECORD BECAUSE I, I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO IT, SO I I DON'T WANNA I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A THUMBS UP OR A THUMBS DOWN BECAUSE I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT.
SO IF WE MAKE A MOTION TO, LET'S SAY, TO ACCEPT THIS WITH THE STIPULATION TO HOW, HOW DO WE DO THAT TO ADDRESS THE, UM, THE DECOMMISSIONING PART OF BETWEEN SHELL AND MAY? IT, IT, IF YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE TO MAY, THEN I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, GO, GO BACK AND DO MY RESEARCH AND IF, IF I HAD ANY FURTHER CONCERNS, I WOULD WORK WITH MR. WADE TO TRY AND PUT, PUT SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IN THERE.
SO IF WE LEFT IT AT SHALL, NOW THAT'S THE MORE STRINGENT ABSOLUTELY, YES.
AND SO WE COULD ALWAYS AS WELL SH MORE INFORMATION IS GIVEN TO US.
SHELL IS MORE SEARCHING TOWARDS THE COUNTY THOUGH, IN THIS INSTANCE, THE, OKAY.
IT'S TY IT'S TYING THE COUNTY DOWN, NOT THE APPLICANT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
IT MAY, MAY TIES THEM THERE, MAY ALLOWS US TO WORK WITH THEM MORE SO.
BUT I MEAN, IT DOESN'T TIE THE, SHE TIES US DOWN, RIGHT? MM-HMM
I THINK TO MR. CO'S POINT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
AND I THINK TO MR. WADE'S POINT MAY GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASSESS WHAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
NONE OF US SOME TIME TRAVELING, SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT MAY COME UP THAT'S BETTER THAN SALVAGE VALUE.
AND IT STILL HELPS THEM OUT BY HAVING THE LANGUAGE IN THERE.
IT JUST ALLOWS US TO WORK WITH THEM AT, AT THIS UP INSTEAD OF OKAY.
IT SOUNDS, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE GOT SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT TO ADD MAY WITH SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION NOTE THAT CHANGES TO SEVEN SECTION THREE.
OH, YES, YES, YES, WE HAVE GOT IT.
YES, THERE'S, RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW WE'VE LOOKED AT TWO DIFFERENT, SO FAR, TWO DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS BEYOND THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT IN THE VERSION THAT'S, THAT'S BEFORE YOU, THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE CHANGE TO THE FENCE LINE AND THEN THE CHANGE FROM SHALL TO MAKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME, MR. WADE, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM STAFF? THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS POINT.
IS THERE A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION ASK? I DUNNO HOW THAT WORKS.
YEAH, I WANT TO SAY
UM, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, ORDINANCE
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FOR, I GOTTA GIMME, GIMME A SECOND, PLEASE.I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 2024 DASH FOUR WITH THE CHANGES RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AS WELL AS THE STIPULATIONS MADE BY THE, THE COMPANY.
ARE YOU GOOD? YOU WANT, YOU WANNA SAY CLARITY? OH, GO AHEAD, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, JUST, JUST FOR CLARITY FOR, FOR THE RECORD.
SO, UM, MR. PIERCE, I, I BELIEVE YOUR MOTION IS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL CORRECT OF THE ORDINANCE, UM, AS PRESENTED IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT AT THE, THE VERSION THAT'S CURRENTLY IN FRONT OF YOU, WHICH INCORPORATES AMENDMENTS BROUGHT FORTH BY THE, UM, THE APPLICANT WHO BROUGHT THE ORDINANCE TO US.
AND IN ADDITION, THE CHANGES DISCUSSED AND, UH, TO THE FENCE LINE SECTION SEVEN THREE IN SECTION SEVEN THREE AND, AND SECTION TWO FIVE TO GO FROM SHALL TO MAY.
IT'S BEEN PROBABLY MOVED IN SECOND THAT THE MOTION THAT MS. PERKINS MENTIONED, UH, BE APPROVED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS SECTION SEVEN.
MR. WAITE, WE HAVE NO NEW BUSINESS.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR, FOR THE, FOR, UH, MOVING.
SO DILIGENT WITH US, WITH THE, WITH THE APPLICANT FOR, UM, OUR, OUR OUR OLD BUSINESS ITEMS. ALRIGHT, PUBLIC COMMENTS, SEEING THE PUBLIC MOVING ON TO COMMITTEE UPDATES.
ANY COMMITTEE UPDATES, SIR, AS, AS WE GET INTO THIS TO THE NEW YEAR? UM, WELL WE, WE'VE BEEN A COUPLE HERE A COUPLE, ALMOST A COUPLE MONTHS NOW, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT AS NEW AS WE AS IT ONCE WAS.
UM, WE'LL START WORKING ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE TALKED WITH A COUPLE, A COUPLE OF OF COMMISSIONERS WAS, UM, THE NEED TO, UH, UPDATE OUR NEW, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING WAS DONE IN 2020.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A FIVE YEAR UPDATE.
THERE'S A SIGN SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED IN THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
HRSD IS STEADILY MOVING THROUGH, UM, THROUGH SURRY.
THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED EVERYTHING THEY SET OUT THAT THEY WERE GONNA DO IN 2020 AND NOW THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO OTHER THINGS.
AND I THINK YOU ALL HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE PROCEEDED PAST WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO, AND YOU ALL DID A COMPREHENSIVE, UM, A UH, SUBSTANTIAL COURT DETERMINATION FOR A PROJECT THAT WAS GOING DOWN HOG ISLAND ROAD.
SO YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT HRSD IS WORKING ON, UM, WORKING WITH HRSD TO ADD SOME MORE ELEMENTS FOR SEWER IN SURY COUNTY.
UM, WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON A WATER AND SEWER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN FOR SURY COUNTY.
UM, AND THERE MAY BE OTHER AREAS FOR CONSIDERATION FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAD, WE HAD NOT, HAD NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED IN 2020.
SO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE SHOULD, SHOULD ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS WE'RE HAVING.
I THINK ONE OF THE AREAS THAT HADN'T NECESSARILY BEEN, UM, THOUGHT OF FOR FUTURE RESIDENTIAL SLASH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS THE AREA ON BACON'S CASTLE OFF OF HOG ISLAND.
UM, THAT'S THE AREA THAT IS SIGNIF IS FACING SIGNIFICANT PRESSURE FROM, UM, LAND COMING FROM OLIVE WHITE OVER, OVER TO SURREY THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER AND FOR FUTURE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED TO MS.
LET'S, LET'S PLAN AHEAD MAKING SURE THAT WE, WE, WE CAPTURE WHAT THE PUBLIC AND, AND, AND WHAT THE BOARD WANTS TO DO AHEAD OF TIME SO DEVELOPERS KNOW WHERE TO ATE THE DEVELOPMENT INSTEAD OF CONCENTRATING INTO AREAS WHERE, UM, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO CONCENTRATE.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE PULLING YOU ASIDE WITH, UM, AND WORKING WITH WITH DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS, UM, DIFFERENT AREAS.
UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS TOO TO LOOK AT TOO IS, YOU KNOW, WHO'S INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THE, THE, UM, THE COMMITTEE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
I THINK WE JUST NOW RECENTLY UPDATED WITH OUR BYLAWS NOW OF UP TO FIVE.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MR. BERRYMAN SAID IT WAS MAYBE YOU HAVE ONE FOR EACH DISTRICT TO, TO REPRESENT, UM, THAT AND, AND TALK WITH MAYBE TALK AND ALSO MAYBE TALK WITH YOUR OTHER COMMISSIONER
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IN THE DISTRICT TOO.WHAT THINGS THAT IF, IF THEY CAN'T BE THERE FOR, UM, WHAT THINGS THAT THEY'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
YOU ALL ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS VERY WELL.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF THOUGHTS DO YOU HAVE? UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR PROBABLY THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH OUR CONSULTANTS.
UM, IT'S THE BENEFIT, SIR, IN THE FUTURE.
UM, WE DO SEE A COUPLE OF, OF, OF NUANCED THINGS HERE IN, IN, IN SURREY.
WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DATA CENTER PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON, UM, NEXT TO THE NUCLEAR PLANT.
UM, WHAT OTHER NEW USES DO WE, WHAT MIGHT WE SEE? UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE A DEFICIT FOR, FOR HOUSING.
IS IT HOUSING IS A, A DEFINITE NEED HERE IN SURY COUNTY.
HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE WATER AND SEWER THAT'S NECESSARY FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE? APPARENTLY IT HAS BEEN VERY COMPLICATED FOR PEOPLE TO GET THE SIZE, UNLESS YOU IN LARGE PARCELS, IT'S VERY HARD TO GET LAND HERE IN SURY COUNTY.
SO THAT'S, HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT HAPPEN A LOT OF TIMES IS TO GET WATER AND SEWER TO A SITE.
YOU, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE COMP, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COMPREHEND HOW TO DO THAT WITH PROBABLY THE SURY COUNTY WORKING ON A WATER AND, AND SEWER MASTER PLAN TO GET THERE.
SO WE'RE, WE ARE WORKING ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS NOW.
YOU'LL BE SEEING SOME OF THOSE THINGS IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.
UM, AT SOME POINT WE'LL HAVE A KICKOFF TYPE MEETING.
UM, BUT I I, I DO WANT YOU ALL WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANTS BEFORE WE GET TO A OFFICIAL KICKOFF, BUT YOU KNOW, OF HOW WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT AND HOW WE'RE GONNA PRESENT IT OUT TO THE, TO THE, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY.
'CAUSE IT, THIS IS NOT JUST THE IN-HOUSE, WE'RE GONNA DO IT HERE.
WE, WE DO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY AS WELL OF, OF EXPLAIN EXPLAINING AND SHOWING WHAT, WHAT, WHAT OUR THOUGHTS MAY BE AND, AND, AND THEM GAUGING.
OKAY, WELL MAYBE THIS MAY NOT THAT GETTING INPUT FROM MY COMMUNITY AT A AS A WHOLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, ARE ARE WE IN LINE WITH WHAT IS OUR VISION IN LINE? AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A WHOLE COMPLETE CONFERENCES PLAN AMENDMENT.
THIS IS JUST US GOING FROM FIVE, FIVE YEAR AMENDMENT.
UM, AGAIN, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE HAPPENED IN SURREY.
WE, WE DIDN'T KNOW IF SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WERE GONNA HAPPEN IN THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
BUT SIGNIFICANT THINGS HAVE HAPPENED WHERE WE NEED MAKE TO MAKE SOME AMENDMENTS TO OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AS WELL AS, UM, WHERE, WHERE WE PLACE WATER AND SEWER AND UM, AND, AND SURREY.
SO JUST BEING A LOOKOUT FOR THAT ONE.
IF, YOU KNOW, IF I SOME HANDS TODAY OF, OF PER DISTRICT WHO WANTS TO BE A PART OF, UM, THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I, I LOVE TO GET A PART FROM YOU AND I, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO DO, PART OF THAT COMMITTEE IS TO BREAK OUT DIFFERENT AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITIES INSTEAD OF ALWAYS, OKAY, WE ALL MEET, ALL FIVE OF US MEET.
I LIKE TO ASSIGN SOME PROJECTS HERE AND THERE.
YOU'RE GONNA BE A PART OF, THIS IS GONNA BE YOUR, THIS IS GONNA BE YOUR, YOUR AREA OF ASSIGNMENT AND WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH YOU.
MAYBE WE DO TWO, TWO MEETING TO, UM, A MEETING WITH ONE OR TWO, ONE OR TWO PARTY COMMISSIONERS TO GO OVER ASSIGNMENTS.
AND WE GET BACK TOGETHER AS A, AS A COMMITTEE, A SUBCOMMITTEE, AND THEN REPORT BACK INITIALLY AT THE END OF THAT TO THE REST OF THE, THE PARTY COMMISSION AFTER WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS.
SO PUTTING THAT OUT THERE TO EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST LET ME KNOW.
I, I, I LOVE, LOVE TO HAVE HAVE YOU ON BOARD TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH THAT.
I DO THINK IT'LL BE BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE HAVE PLENTY COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING WITH, WITH THE CITIZENS, UM, THAT FROM, FROM THOSE DISTRICTS TO UNDER UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THE NEEDS ARE.
I, I, I SEE SOME OF IT FROM MY LEVEL, BUT I DON'T SEE IT FROM YOUR, FROM YOU ALL'S LEVEL.
'CAUSE YOU GUYS, YOU ALL ARE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO JUST PUTTING THAT OUT, PUTTING THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU.
ANY OTHER PC SECRETARY COMMUNICATIONS? I THINK THAT, I THINK, I THINK I COVERED THAT PART.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? IF NOT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO OUR MARCH THE 24TH 2025 MEETING.
SO MOVE, SECOND PROPERTY, MOVE AND SECOND THAT WE ADJOURN.